HollownessDevoured

Not all wikis, but yes they very much can be. I just mean that in essence that is what wikis are supposed to be like. As I mentioned "In an ideal world consensus would be great"... on paper that always looks better but practice is a whole other thing.

This is more or less why participating modders and the vocal community's feedback should hold more weight. In an ideal world consensus would be great and of course there would be certain parameters and restrictions from Nexus as they maintain and it is their site. If we are to going to compare content creators/editors of wikis vs. nexus content creators/modders—wiki editing communities only have to come to an agreement/consensus/vote amongst those willing to participate and it's editors. I think the vocal minority would feel better if their say is weighted on/with (or against) the majority vote/consensus to others participating (and not the non-participating). We have seen some users happy, fine and defending the update but more seem to not be. Would you rather come to a consensus with them or be lost in the overwhelming numbers of the non-feedback/silent majority/indifferent who are not participating? If it takes someone to be unhappy with something to go from non-participating to participating, that is simply on them to speak up or indifference can/would be considered consent/approval.

The banner for beta testing was probably simply ignored or opted out of because of the misconception of they could keep the original site as is indefinitely or simply indifference. Was the poll on only "opted in" mode, during beta? I believe what some people are getting at is after the update was forced (no opting out), why wasn't there a banner on every page then for polling. As how could one vote on something when they were in their old site ("opted out") happy place doing business as usual, not aware they were going to lose it to the other toggled mode.

If the old Nexus UI/set up was similar to the old wiki/fandom platform (before they updated to UCP) the issue was the site was so out of date it was held together with duct tape and prayers. There was a lot of push back on that update too, and they/we still didn't get back a lot of better/preferred features. But in that case they were just held to the mercy of on out of date MediaWiki, they just had to eventually use an updated version or eventually it would have fallen apart. But as users/editors we didn't see that. To that affect I understand and accept updates/"upgrades" are required. But this doesn't excuse basic and repeated pressed issues that can be changed: such as same colour scheme (that can be cloned even users are cloning it themselves with extension), and doesn't explain the wasted space and the lost of the fifth tile (and the extra clicks are annoying, generally, anywhere). Some of these issues would appease a lot of people (if fixed) till they work out the bugs and issues to try to make the update as good as or at par with the previous. In regards to the silent majority/indifferent/sample size polling consider this... This is a user created content site in a way similar to fandom wikis, generally, each of those wikis are run by editors and vocal minority, as the silent majority tends to be indifferent or silent. As vocal minorities generally are the content creators/editors and their say has weight. I think this is something people here on nexus are having difficulty with, that their say has no weight and some being modders who may be generating 10s of thousands or 100s of thousands unique views (on their mod pages), should they really only be dismissed because they are the 0.0001% user base? As well as a premium user who pays, may want to have more say than a rando viewer who got the poll. Late Feb I saw, despite me leaving nexus and only being a modder for a 15 year old game and only active for about 2 years, managed to get free premium aka 30k unique downloads (I haven't redeemed because I technically left nexus (but here for feedback talks) because of this update but from last year's start of the theme implementation). To me that is pretty decent considering it is an old game and only 2ish years of sporadic work. On the scale I am a small/micro beans content creator/modder who is basically inactive/gone, but imagine modders who are modding for newer games and have more activity, it seems like a kick in the teeth to say to them "you are only the the 0.0001% user base".

I truly believe they are heavily relying on the vocal minority's kicking and screaming to die down or lose momentum, and also rely on silent majority to stay that—silent and indifferent. It was known over a year ago there would be push back at sitewide implementation and there were multiple "hot issues" they didn't plan on changing/adjusting back then (which are still "hot issues" now), but far too few complained when it was just the profile pages/forums. I think that it was some users' excuse(s), to not be that upset at that time, was something to the effect "it is only the profile pages, I hardly/never view anyways". Some of us knew that when it was the rest of the site it would be a bigger deal but we were too few at that time. Now it looks like the vocal minority seems more and louder than they predicted; I believe they are willing to make some changes they were not willing a year ago because of that. But they may still not ultimately do/change what a lot of what people are upset about or make enough changes to make people feel it is enough. People can either play ball and give detailed feedback or keep complaining without feedback, which may just be ignored since it might be considered unhelpful. All I can say is no matter how much I gave detailed feedback last year (85 posts on one thread alone) only very little resulted in changes but some did—though it was only slight and minor.

Yeah, it is frustrating and confusing for users, but probably saves them loads of money to just use a third party host for their forum needs. Could be worse we could be told "just use our discord channel" which I refuse to join discord—so I am grateful to forums.

Reputation is forum only available via the forum host. It has nothing to do with kudos or the nexus site. I doubt they can or will tie together with the nexus site.

As already mentioned by myself and other users, it did improve slightly compared to original release but is still not at an ideal level. And to my knowledge the profile "about me" page and it's editor is still very blackhole. edit: And to reiterate new complaints of those unaware it was worse a year ago—confirm it is still at too high of a contrast. I am pleased that I was apart of what improved slightly from last year but I(/and others) was(/were) hardly satisfied we just didn't have the numbers a year ago to keep pressing. So I felt my complaints, feedback and the changes that were made were a small improvement yes, but I still left the site.

Yep, mee too XD

Gotcha. I bet at least 50% of the people using 100 on the forums assumes it means 100% XD

Maybe I am just not a person who says "keeping it real" ever LOL and cannot relate, and I find this a disjointed reaction to discussion posts. But I do say "100%" or "This^" or "I 100% agree" normally—especially over discussions.

So he accidentally used the 100 from the "I'm keeping it 100" instead of the 100% you asked for? Oof...

I looked over the host that this forum uses, that I remember any image/icon/emoji should be able to be uploaded/used they just have a few defaults too. I think someone/staff found of this phrase's icon/image and decided the snippet of this phrase would prove a helpful as an emoji/reaction for the forums or they themselves assumed it was a 100% icon/image not realizing the actual images is a "Keeping it real" variation.

I looked it up so it is just the evolution of "Keeping it real"? I honestly never heard or used this term in my life till now. edit: basically this is vernacular in origin; so not exactly a universally used term. IMHO "100% agree" has been around longer and has more familiarity but if this is the new net speak, then so be it.

I am genuinely unfamiliar the term used this way, is this term used to a specific region or vernacular? I only ever have heard/used phrases such as "I 100% agree" "100% this".