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not anymore ....:whistling:

Since critical thinking can't be thought without a basic set of morals such like the moral concept of respect for your teacher give you the values of free well and thinking, and since the word programming was uses as negative example on teaches from parents I assume the concept must be based on the social morals of society and the socialization concept of a person on that value is to cannot be be right, because I don't know any nation on this world that has not only the moral concepts of lawful and unlawful but as well the tendencies to rate social behavior as good and bad on the moral level.Never one nation has it gotten it completely right and can be scientifically proven to makes here and there errors, as well on more than a single level of morals, because the moral concepts is not constantly overlooked in a scientifically way, and according to that is basically overruled by the behavior of the broad mass of society it self and society views are biased there aswell so this can't be set as standard as well. This leads me to the conclusion that there are not principal good or bad moral values ll can agree upon. Thinking on further on the way of the words I quoted above I would like to approach them now in a hypothetical in a science fictional / Franke'n'Stein way to explain why I think this not a argument that could work: If there would be to programed a chip with critical thinking only but without morals and implanted to work in a little child or baby. (leaving the morals quarrels against such a method would arises because it would be soon there after abused by those who have power and and money to have some loyal slaves. or the way George Orwell described in 1984) then it would in this society question all things that are going on and this would lead to a repulsion to the person who is having a chip in his brain that works this way because people that criticize (opportunism) aren't held up in high esteem by todays society. I believe such a treatment of a person with critical thinking chip would either lead to that point where the person commit sooner or later suicide or that the person would on the other hand choose the path of a sociopath. The hypothetical approach on that all can have astrophysical effect and side effects on the whole society as shown so i think it is not usable method as a stand alone concept of values to be the critical thinking model cannot stand alone without moral values. I personally would rather approach the method of free spirit and free thinking more as basis in combination with basic morals, but never without morals. Therefore my personal opinion is that this is not the right way of approach to the moral education problems of today.

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And agree on that ! I don't have a problem with muting it. i believe running this site can be on someways like riding on a Mustang on a Texas rodeo, so I understand some of the things you do for us Dark0ne. if you read this appeal to you that if you get a chance to change to multiple different commercials please do so. (i know you cant directly change this and have only minimal influence on this matter) The two commercials I get all the time drive me in to la-la land. I either get a detergent advert witch makes me stand up and check my washing machine plug witch can be a real electricity eater in stand by.... ... Or i get a hand washing soap advert that makes me get up and wash my hands... At this rate i approximately will have in about half a year in that I either walked a deep line in to my floor or have my fingers of both hands rubed off with washing witch would make Internet communication more difficult as well as gaming good games or eaven more worse turn me in to Adrian Monk or all of that in different combinations. Please more differently stuff on the 30 sec adverts.

If you not already have OBGE (Oblivion Graphics Extender) then you want to have this. ( please read read me and FAQ) On your bloom and HDR question it generally depends on hardware and waht you want to do with oblivion. HDR looks better but if you want to make screen shots you need an external screen shot program, it is the other way around with Bloom and screen shots . But you need to modify the Oblivion.ini to set under Bloom internal screen shots "bAllowScreenShot=" to 1 to make screen shoots. This is only an example of what is the difference there are more.

"Cogito ergo sum" / "I think, therefore I am" René Descartes Every one has the right to see self and feel self as a complete person. So why not accept simple truths and individualism ? Having two friends that are homosexual (one of them happily married) I learned this as well as from the disabled people i worked some time ago with. I have great respect of someone that states this out.

*Pops out of Happy Place* Telling AliasTheory that invading the happy place may end up having at the moment having 4 boots kicking him out a pare of 44" size one boot 45" size and one boot 50" size. or more simply "very bad idea" "Pops back into happy place*

.....Pops out from "Happy Place" graps the win from AliasTheory and throws it to the outer rim of the galaxy and poping back to happy place dimension....

Buys the win for 5$ and sells it again for 100$... and pops in to his happy place

... Comes out of "Happy Place Dimension" and steals the win and throws it back on earth so who might discover it may win again...

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Droppingout of his happy place "save dimension" and saving the day by turning everybody back to normal. "I winz.... I winz...." Jumping back to happy place dimension

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2ttd48u0J0&feature=related 6 for Sub Sea Tiger!

I made this topic up because this emerged surfaced as a sister / brother topic of "Topples Equality" that we might have a biases in gender equality because of wrong moral standards we give to our children. 1st I have no children. I have maybe more questions due to that circumstance as someone who has children. So please be indulgent with me. I made the observation that a child that is open doesn't view the world with the same morals adults have. In fact they are mostly are more open on how and why things work and like to ask questions or try out things out of curiosity. I'm no expert but I think curiosity is more valuable than blind obedience and a hard drill regimen, for it might lead a child to openness and an own independent intellect so they can be more and more be self-confident to think on it heir own when they become a teenager and more or at least as an adult. So it is the opposite believe of the book now published by Amy Chua. I believe the morals come from those who raised us in combination with a group mentality we develop as well as the personality of the child. On viewing my own changes in moral ways and believes I have come up to the conclusion that wrong morals that are very early raised are the hardest to fight back in later live. And I know it takes a lot of time to raise a child today, but most parents today have jobs and might not have the time to raise a child this way. So this is a component as well that should be taken in account. For many children media have take over education and giving them moral values that lead at least in one point back to our Sister/ Brother debate "Topless Equality" In the media you can see mostly beautiful people in expensive fashioned clothing that give a wrong general view of the people and fashion of our world and thus implementing a wrong moral imperatives of beauty and fashion with the children. In extreme this can lead to health and life threatening illnesses and disabilities to someone who grows up. So I raise simple question of what can we do better? Why we should do it? And to close the circle of my post: Can it be done right?

Kay B.E. i hope the Big cyclone doesn't hit to hard Australia. If you are still at that temperature i can send you my Coffin fridge with wired internet inside so you may keep cool. during the heat of the day that will probably hit the 40 to 45 degrees.

Please don't use the flame-thrower on the pool you may need to repair it for it will probably leak. And I hope it gets warmer there in some time. Please use more clothes or anything you can get to hold you warm. I don't want to have a frosted LHammonds in 4000AD, because we need you here.

Last time I did mention socialisation and morals to raise children as reason. I left it there because i think I have an example where to see where you all are heading and if someone would pick this up to explain something that is equally important to see as the the simple question topless or not equality, but it may be a bit of topic so I will need to explain this .... later unless you are one who gets the point fast. About I was 20 nearly 20 back years now sitting in a street coffee (Italian with ice bar) in summer as this little story happened to me and my friend and I regret now what I did back then but I will explain later why ... Behind my friend was a man sitting and next too him a woman with two children wanted to sit down and relax. The two children had about the age of 3 or 4 a little girl with blonde hair and 5 to 6 a boy with equally blond hair. suddenly very shortly after they settled to pick their orders, the boy started to ask his mom A question: "Mummy why has the man at the other table only two fingers and scared hand?" The Mother responded: "Ssshhh, you cant question that loud!" The the waitress came to get the orders and the women asked, if inside there would be some ice for the children so they could look and decide. The waitress said yes and took the children with her. Immediately after the children left she turned to the man and asked him politely if he could leave his two fingered scared hand under the order card for the rest of the time in the caffeè and reasoned it disdurbes the children. He replied simply and calm "No," it is a part of me." now the women argued that is is not an appetizing sight to look on a hand like that and he could please for the children's sake cover it. still calm the man replied "No, I will not cover it, because I don't like too and i don't want to it is such a nice day." at this moment the children came back. the women stood up and packed her belongings and went obviously enraged inside the caffeè to sit there with their children. My friend and i did nothing. I'm ashamed now that i did nothing because after having worked and talked with a lot of disabled persons for about 2 and a half years which changed my view on such situations. The children s where only curious and a bit afraid on how this could happened to a man the mother on the other hand ... well i don't want to express my feelings towards her openly now. I would today applaud the leaving of that woman if I could turn back time. I think the body is natural even if someone is disabled and i believe now that it was more open what a child did than that what the mother did. now for my 2 cents questions What would you do if you see a man with bare chest and a lots of scars or a women that had a breast amputation because of breast cancer bare chested on the beach and such a conversation would happen? Would treat them the same or are you more afraid of the disability ? Would it be for the same reasons as you would do with a non disabled person? Why is normality best? What are good morals and bad ones in socialising children? Where do you draw the line between a good moral and a bad one ? Is it good to for society to raise children to aim for normality Or to have them ask question out of curiosity? What has this to do with topless equality? And why is it not good to express yourself like who you really are, or like to be in public openly? You may answer the last one by reviewing my 1st post in this topic more closely. Naturally you may answer silently for yourself ...

I winz.... i winz... i winz.... (the heart beats on and on on that beat higher and higher)

Granted!... But now Monkeys behave like Trolls. I wish we would have more nice food in here.