I have tried that but I'm still getting crashes. Gone back to NMM and manually checked versions of mods. Looks like many were out of date and NMM has not automatically retrieved new ID's. Now I'm going to see what happens in game. Thanks again. UPDATE: Updating mods made no difference. I have been exiting in two stages and the game goes non-responsive on the final checkout, so to speak. Just tried a new game and it quit no problem.