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Thanks for reply, tried your suggestion, but no joy yet. I will continue though. BTW, I like your Social NPCs mod! Regards

I'm having problems getting See You Sleep http://www.tesnexus....le.php?id=16005 and Personality Idles http://www.tesnexus....le.php?id=30829 to effectively work together. From what I've read, people have used these two mods with no problems, and SYS readme states that Personality Idles must be loaded after in the LO. OK, so... I use WB and BOSS and have experimented with the load order but with little success, if I put SYS later in the LO, then it works fine - but P.I. only partly works; I see the sitting pose (for females), for instance. However, the Seductive Idle will not trigger. If I put Personality Idles later in the LO, pretty much the same- no idle pose triggers and SYS animations are adversely affected, (sits on bed, doesn't lie down). Am I trying too hard here? My LO- It's not game breaking exactly o_O but I would love to get these two to play together! Any ideas? (Yes, I know I've got far too many mods, but they all work pretty much as intended and with no glitches that I can see!)

I reckon this would be a good place to start - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/ The yellow blocks with WTF! are missing meshes, I think you will have a hard time tracking down exactly what mod is responsible here; realistically you will have to load one at a time and test, load another, etc. Tedious and time consuming, but probably the best workable method. I can't assist with the overhaul mods as I don't use them- you'll probably have to spend (invest!!) considerable periods of time reading about those and their quirks in the forum threads. I do see that you have multiple esps loaded for DR, however, where you should only have just the one selected...could well be your CTD right there.

You'll probably hate me for saying this, but I don't think there is any "glaring errors" apparent that will magically resolve your problems here. Unfortunately, as the veterans here will probably also point out if they contribute to your thread, it is a case of installing and then testing each mod/ alteration to your game pretty much one by one. It is ultimately very time consuming, and the point being here that invariably it is simply not possible to gather a shedload of mods and then chuck them into your game and expect everything to work flawlessly. But don't worry, I've tried it and failed miserably on several occasions....truth be told, I expect a lot of people have taken this approach to "save precious time" - but it doesn't work, assured. DR6 is a potential CTD candidate if you haven't followed instructions very carefully, I expect you've gathered that from the amount of posts about it. Also OBGE Liquid Water requires some careful installation, there's a lot of tweaks required to get it working correctly though I doubt anything that would cause CTD. You have OBSE installed and use the launcher to start I take it? I would recommend Wrye Bash too, trust me if I can install and work it with reasonable success, anyone can...the bashed patch will enable a lot of mods to work "together". You can still use OBMM as well. With WB you have all your apps accessible from the bottom bar, so you can add mods, sort load order, (re)build bash patch and then run Tes4LODGen. Look here - http://tesivpositive...tallation_guide I hope you're not put off and will persevere!

Thanks Hickory and HeyYou for your replies. I have simply knocked off RAEVWD and gained 5 FPS instantly. I am now in the Better Cities Waterfront District, which is I understand renowned for poor FPS anyway, and getting 20FPS; this is hardly "good" performance, but is playable.I have a lot of texture mods installed, QTP3R being the main one, then stuff like Enhanced Vegetation and Better / Improved this-that-and-the-other. Plus Detailed Terrain as well. ":smile:" I have disabled all shader effects apart from OBGE Liquid Water, but now that it supports DoF shaders too..well,I'll have to experiment. In conclusion, then- you can't have it all no matter how good your system is; it is a case of deciding which effects you really like and then discarding other (lesser?) stuff. I think I suffer Kid-In-A-Candy-Shop Syndrome when it comes to mods- just cannot leave well alone. Sometimes, I think I enjoy messing about with mods, and looking at what's available more than playing the game!!!

TBH, I try to keep everything to the minimum, I haven't culled any system processes- the OS (Win 7 x64) is as default. As mentioned, i7 920 (not o/c, so 2.66Ghz) and 6Gb RAM and 2Gb HD6950. I did try Gamebooster not so long ago, but I didn't see anything dramatic, I suppose it all adds up though... Only Microsoft Security Essentials icon "down below", but I think that's fairly good on resources. I shall have to try, as Hickory mentioned, cutting out a few things like RAEVWD. I love the Crysis DoF shader too, I suspect that kicks FPS into touch as well. I was hoping for a "your load order is rubbish" type answer which would (potentially!!) miraculously solve things :ermm: Cheers

In places, abysmal FPS- OBStutterRemover has capped FPS to 30 anyway, but in towns FPS crawls to 10-12FPS sometimes. FPS is OK indoors, somewhere around 15-18 in open spaces as a rule- but just playable.

Thanks, Hickory! I'll give it a try, not heard of that one...:thumbsup:

Apologies if this is not the correct forum, this is more of a "How Do I?" rather than troubleshooting. I have Let There Be Darkness installed and it's great, however it does not function everywhere; and I have some quests installed that I would like to bring the lighting modifications into. The Let There Be Darkness readme says - QUOTE - [Fortunately, this can be fixed with Wrye Bash's Bashed Patch feature. You can import the cell lighting data from this mod to the patch and enjoy the dark dungeons everywhere without worries :) ] How do I accomplish that please? I do have WB installed obviously.... Thanks for any replies.

I'm experiencing a similar problem with Open Better Cities and the Kvatch Rebuilt quest. I'm supposed to go to Skingrad Castle to see the Count, and I know I should look for a robed monk type in the courtyard who will grant me access after a small sidequest- but he's not there. Anywhere. I haven't tried reverting to "closed" city in the personalising Better Cities options yet. Maybe that'll work. Hopefully someone will come along shortly to advise...:(

Thanks for reply. I assumed naively that all clothing, armour, footwear,etc., would work together if it was compatible to the body mod. Evidently they don't all work together so I'll just "watch what I wear" to avoid any clipping. I am such a noob....

The pants are Blades Greaves. When this "uniform" is worn together, cuirass, boots, chainmail gloves, and greaves there is no problem. I'm guessing there is incompatability with different clothing/ armours then as I'm using Robert's body mod.

I have installed Slofs male Clothing and there is this problem- Piccie If you can see, a section of each boot is missing, happens with gloves too. I don't think this is a problem with this specific mod as such, I've seen this before with other clothing. Is this a common problem? Is this something I've done wrong? My LO - Any advice appreciated.

It appears also that you have installed Oblivion into Program Files- this will cause problems. When you re-install from scratch ensure the game is loaded outside of the default location. All I do is simply alter C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion to C:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion.

Press left shift to activate and select with mouse, and left control/select to deactivate. If a shader is activated, it will have a little plus sign next to it.

Depends what you mean by "crash"- do you mean the game crashes to desktop on startup, or do you mean that the game freezes when you attempt to activate the shaders? Be aware that when OBGE is initially activating all the shaders, it does appear that the game has frozen, and it will sit for 30- 60 seconds whilst it sorts itself out.

Look in Oblivion/Data/ini- in there is the All Natural configuration file. Settings are available in there to alter frequency of weather, how dark the nights are, even whether the clouds are moving or not.

Can anyone advise as to what may be causing these coloured patched ingame please - http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab120/rededge/th_ScreenShot1.jpg My LO- I've checked my Oblivion ini, and I don't think there's anything there altered that would give trouble- fShadowLOD2=400.0000 fShadowLOD1=200.0000 fLightLOD2=1500.0000 fLightLOD1=1000.0000 fSpecularLOD2=1300.0000 fSpecularLOD1=1000.0000 - I believe these are default. I do use shaders, Godrays, Crysis DoF and NormalFilterAA. I've used BOSS to sort LO and rebuilt Bashed Patch and then used TesLOD4Gen. Oblivion retail version, SI installed 1.2.0416 Ant advice most appreciated, thanks in advance.

Thanks for reply, I'm using HDR, yes. I use OBMM and Wye Bash together. Primarily WB to install and sort. Yes I use BOSS all the time, and then TES4LodGen to sort LOD. Maybe I need a compatability patch, something along those lines... In essence, though, I have a bad case of mod soup and newbness! Still much to learn for me. I think a reinstall is in order :confused: Cheers.

Naw, its gonna be (another) re-install... found other problems too! Why can't I just leave well alone :ermm:

Weird problem, I hope someone can at least point me in the right direction- http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab120/rededge/ScreenShot52.jpg My LO- Stumped with this, anybody seen similar? Other info - running Windows 7 (64bit) - Installed to C:\BethesdaSoftworks\Oblivion. Thanks for any replies, grateful for suggestions.

Apologies for bumping this thread,but I think this is relevant to what I would like to ask, and so I didn't start a new thread... I have been struggling with FPS too, running Windows 7 (64bit) and my system is an i7 (920) not overclocked, 6 Gb DDR3, Graphics 2Gb HD6950, X-Fi PCIe soundcard. Latest drivers installed. With a vanilla install I can achieve 100+ FPS indoors, and 40 - 60 FPS outdoors, all settings maxed, HDR on. However, as soon as I install Better Cities, my framerate plummets to 30 FPS and, around the waterfront, only as much as 20 FPS... I realise what has been said before, and I understand Oblivion is an old game, and it has limitations. But really, is that performance all I should expect when BC is installed without anything else? Have I been duped by the screenshot junkies ( ! ), as when I load up WryeBash with the texture mods, etc., certain areas can become a total slideshow. Is the reality that you cannot have your cake and eat it, so you have to choose? I was hoping (perhaps naively) that I could use the likes of QTP3 Redemized, Better Cities and RAEVWD together, and still (with a 2GB HD6950), achieve reasonable, playable framerates of 25 FPS+. Am I expecting too much? Regards

Thanks for the quick reply- the game is patched and I use SI? So how can I get around this, any ideas? In WB when rebuiding the patch I have the option to merge plugins ticked (I think, I'll check...), but WB is new to me :blink: EDIT - no, I don't know how to merge import plugins- I'll have to read up a bit more...

Hi, I have a problem which I can't seem to solve- on closing the Oblivion Gate at Kvatch and then proceeding inside the town courtyard the imps are killed, and then the soldiers and myself go to the chapel to free the civilians and upon entering the chapel (loading screen).......... I CTD. I thought it was a problem with Kvatch Rebuilt, so I uninstalled with WB, "annealled all" and rebuilt the BP. Still the same. So I unloaded ALL mods, rebuilt patch- same. I have now uninstalled the whole game, and re-installed and loaded all mods except Kvatch Rebuilt. Deleted all previous saves in the My Games/Oblivion folder, and started again with the default .INI- Played through from the beginning again, and still the same problem! So I'm stumped here- what could I have done wrong, and what can I do to attempt to correct? Load Order FYI - Active Mod Files: • 00 Oblivion.esm • 01 You Are Here.esm • 02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9] • 03 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] • 04 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] • 05 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp • 06 DLCShiveringIsles.esp • 07 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] • 08 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp • 09 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 0A All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 0B All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 0C All Natural - Atmospheric Weather System.esp [Version Final] • 0D Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp [Version 0.1] • 0E Rainbows.esp • 0F Cities Alive At Night.esp • 10 WindowLightingSystem.esp • 11 AmbientDungeons.esp [Version 1.3] • 12 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp • 13 CM_Better Wine.esp • 14 Cyrodilic Brandy.esp • 15 diversegrasses.esp • 16 ImprovedSigns.esp • 17 QQuix - Rock, rock, rock your ship - V3.esp • 18 RAEVWD Cities.esp [Version 1.7] • 19 RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.5] • 1A RAEVWD Imperial City.esp [Version 1.7] • 1B VA_BetterGold.esp • 1C MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp • 1D RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp • 1E Rope Ladders v1.esp • 1F Dude Wheres My Horse.esp • 20 BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.0.1] • 21 hackdirtabyss.esp • 22 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.4] • 23 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] • 24 xulTheHeath.esp • 25 XulEntiusGorge.esp • 26 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] • 27 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] • 28 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] • 29 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] • 2A xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2] • 2B xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3] • 2C xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2] • 2D xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] • 2E xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] • 2F xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] • 30 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] • 31 xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.2] • 32 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2] • 33 xulPantherRiver.esp • 34 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] • 35 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2] • 36 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.3] • 37 xulBlackwoodForest.esp • 38 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] • 39 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.1] • 3A xulSkingradOutskirts.esp • 3B Ingredient Storage Shelves.esp • 3C Larger Ogres and Trolls etc.esp • 3D Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp • 3E Stealth Entrances v1.esp • 3F RenGuardOverhaul.esp • 40 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5] • 41 Corean Hair + Elaborate Eyes.esp • 42 babehair_EV.esp • 43 Beautiful People.esp • 44 MM_NoMoreAnnoyingMessages.esp [Version 1.2] • 45 Real Lava 1.3.esp • • • All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9] 46 FormID Finder4.esp • 47 Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.2] • 48 Streamline 3.1.esp • 49 Clintmichs Beautiful IC District Pack Plus.esp • 4A Dark BrotherHood Hood Replacer V1.4.esp [Version 1.3] • 4B UNKNOWNYMOUS Social NPCs.esp • 4C Slof's Boners! v5_DV.esp • 4D Absolutely_Sexy_Jensine.esp • 4E Bashed Patch, 0.esp Are there any console commands I could try to workaround? ...or maybe I should play unmodded! :tongue: Any advice much appreciated! Thanks.

Thanks for the replies, guys! Persvered with it until 2 in the morning and (somehow) I believe it has now installed - http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab120/rededge/BashInstallers.jpg Will carry on reading up, over time the intricacies of WB will become clearer! Regards :smile: