Um... most of your ideas are sound, but you do not need a huge image like this. All you need is a one-pixel gradient line for the background image, then force it to cover the entire height with the image properties. It's an old html trick. No download time at all, but covers the entire page with a left-to-right gradient color. ------------ Dark0ne, I appreciate that you don't want a garish site, and I don't either. But there's a world of options between garish and boring. You want tasteful but appealing, and highly functional. Professional graphic designers spend their careers trying to master that balance (and most don't succeed, by the way.) I'm sure you'll still have a very large audience, probably as big as you need or want. But if you started out with this un-design in the beginning, I doubt you would have built up the loyal fan base that you now have. Anyway - 'nuff said. I'm just glad your back! -Jumonji