But that's exploiting a glitch. :armscrossed: I mean sure, if you wanna cheat yourself, but I'd feel kinda slimy doing it. (DreamKingMods already said what I would have said, so I'm just replying to this bit.) Is it exploiting a glitch? when it first started happening, I hit him once and nothing happened, so i waited. After about 10 minutes I talked to him and he said go ahead and hit me, so I hit him again, then waited. this went on for the next 30 minutes with me waiting, click on Vilkas and he says "go ahead take a swing". Eventually he says "not bad" but untill that he will always say "take a swing". the next character I took I just started swinging full power hits over and over, 3 minutes later he said, "not bad". it seems to be tied to how many times you hit him, so do i really have a choice? Also when you have hit him enough the game forces you out of combat, so I say hit him untill you are forced out of combat. Just so you know it didn't happen after I downloaded a mod, actually i haden't downloaded any mods in a couple of months and it started, and it happens on every character, but doesn't break anything, so to me it is not a big deal