LordDratik

Yeah I just cannot get it to work, I have everything that I need and my anti-virus definitely isn't blocking anything. It just does not work so I have no idea how to do it. Again if I run it from Steam, Mod organizer is not injecting the mods into my game. I used the workaround and those two files are there, but still nothing is happening. I am running Windows 10 and I am using MO version 1.3.... I have no idea.

Yeah everything looks good. I think there is an issue with Oblivion itself, the first time I installed it and ran it, it tried to test my hardware. I have uninstalled it and installed it several times after and it has never tested my hardware again. I must not be fully removing it when I uninstall it and I think that could be where the issues are. The only thing I know to do is to completely uninstall it and install everything else again. For some reason I do not think Steam is doing a good job of uninstalling it, but that could be just me.

So I downloaded OBSE from the Silverlock link and I even used the latest loader and it is still not working for me in MO, but do I run the game from MO or do I run the game from Steam? If I run the game from Steam MO is not injecting the mods and the hook.dll and the mo_path.text files are in the path that you listed. If I run the game from MO, OBSE does not work. I will worry about the Wrye Bash stuff later because if I can't get this to work there isn't much of a point to continue on. Also I know bashed patches are important, but I run Skyrim with about 130 mods and I have never used a bashed patch because all of the mods work without needing one. (My game runs incredibly stable and I rarely have crashes) If you use MO with LOOT and ENboost you are usually good to go. From my understanding and please correct me if I am wrong, but the main reason why people use Wrye Bash is to make two mods that are not usually compatible with each other compatible. In my mod setups I usually try not to mess with stuff like that I and I try to "enhance" my game by keeping it as close to Vanilla as possible. People run into a lot of problems when trying to mix big overhauls together and for me I just don't think I use enough overhauls to justify using Wrye Bash, but I could be wrong :cool: Anyways yeah it is weird why it is not working and I feel stumped :sad:

Well the reason you need to replace the OBSE loader is because that is the workaround to get OBSE to work with Steam- this is the only workaround. I have heard people say it is much easier to mod the physical version of Oblivion as opposed the the Steam version, but the Steam version is all that I have. The main issue that I am having is that MO does not recognize OBSE which means it will not load it- I need to figure out how it will recognize OBSE and as of right now I have not figured it out. I am not going to be modding Oblivion to the extent that I modded Skyrim (probably use about half of the amount of mods) and most of the mods I will be using will be texture replacers. Wrye Bash is a very powerful and complicated tool, but I am probably going to be running less then 80 mods and Wrye Bash really should only be used if you are going to be doing some serious modding i.e. 200+ mods which I think is pretty crazy. Also, the other issue that I am having is that according to this guide, if I do the MO workaround, if I run Oblivion from Steam then MO will inject the mods into my game and this is not happening. If I can figure out how to solve these two problems then I can mod happy. If I can't then I might have to use something besides MO even though MO is one of the best modding tools around.

I have looked up countless guides, have seen a lot of videos and I still cannot get mod organizer, OBSE and Oblivion to play together (I am using the Steam version). I found this extremely helpful and new video series, but I have done everything in the video and I still cannot get it to work: Basically, I have done the workaround for MO, changed the OBSE_Loader and I am still having issues. If I run Oblivion from Steam, mods that I installed via MO are not in game (these don't have to be OBSE mods, any mod doesn't show up). If I use MO and I use OBSE tester, the test fails and it says that OBSE is not working yet my mods that I have installed showed up (I have been testing it with alternate start). If I just run it from steam (I manually installed OBSE tester) then OBSE tester passes with flying colors). I seem to be missing a piece of the puzzle here and I just cannot figure it out. In the above video series that user makes it so easy, but what he is doing just isn't working for me. Can someone please help?!

UPDATE Well the CTDs have dramatically decreased, but they are still happening pretty frequently. I have change the ini settings, added memory patches, added enbost and added mods that help prevent crashing yet I am still having pretty frequent crashes (even though they have significantly gone down). I am wondering since I have so many mods if I should be doing something else?

I have been running a test: From the Halls of the Vigilant I have been trying to make my way to Dawnstar- and I have crashed on the way there several times. (I have CTD 10 times out of 10 times) I have tried disabling certain suspect mods, installing compatibility patches, but nothing seemed to work. I finally decided to uninstall Skyrim Flora Overhaul and as a replacement I am now using Unbelievable Grasses Two and Trees HD Skyrim variation. I have finally made it to Dawnstar without crashing which to me means that Skyim Flora Overhaul was the suspect mod here. I have no idea why, but the latest version of SFO is EXTREMELY performance heavy and unstable to the point that I will get CTDs. I will continue to monitor my progress, but for now my CTDs are less frequent.

Well its definitely not MorrowLoot... it could be Immersive Creatures or Better Fast Travel, but I will have to see. It could also be the textures mods that I am using which I really hope is not the case.

Is there a way to find out what mod is crashing my game? I actually think my game is crashing because I have no many graphic mods running at once. I need to figure out a way to keep a stable performance even though I have a monster of a card. The really weird thing is that when I used my old Radeon HD 7950, the game seemed to be a lot more stable as opposed to my new Radeon R9 390 which is pretty freaking weird.

At this point I think it has to do with a mod conflict, but it's strange because it only happens outside. I'd say at this point that the game is unplayable and I'm only using 87 plug-ins.

Yeah I am using the lazy one... but I am still having pretty frequent crashes so I do not know what I am doing wrong.

Is there something that you recommend over Skyrim Flora Overhaul? I guess I can run Verdant for the grass, but then I am not sure what I should run for trees. I have an EnbBoost for my GPU, but I don't think I have done anything for my CPU- can you recommend something for that? Thanks again!

So I have for the most part modded Skyrim just how I like it, however, I experience a pretty consistent CTD when I am outside in the world. (if I am in a building, cave or dungeon, I never crash). I have a pretty beefy rig: R9 390 8GB GPU AMD FX 8350 16GB of RAM 500GB SSD Currently I am running about 87 active plugins and this is my load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SPERG.esm 7 7 EFFCore.esm 8 8 HighResTexturePack01.esp 9 9 HighResTexturePack02.esp 10 a HighResTexturePack03.esp 11 b Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 12 c RACISM.esp 13 d argoniantints.esp 14 e EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 15 f MLU.esp 16 10 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 17 11 BetterQuestObjectives.esp 18 12 AOS.esp 19 13 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 20 14 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 21 15 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 22 16 Purity.esp 23 17 Rebirth Monster.esp 24 18 Combat Evolved.esp 25 19 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 26 1a Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 27 1b aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp 28 1c MLU - aMidianBorn Content.esp 29 1d ELFXEnhancer.esp 30 1e AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp 31 1f Differently Ebony.esp 32 20 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp 33 21 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 34 22 SPERG-DB.esp 35 23 SPERG-DG.esp 36 24 Improved Artifacts - Complete Collection.esp 37 25 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 38 26 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 39 27 Immersive Weapons.esp 40 28 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 41 29 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 42 2a SPERG.esp 43 2b DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 44 2c Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 45 2d dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 46 2e dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 47 2f TrueEyes.esp 48 30 TrueBrows.esp 49 31 getSnowy.esp 50 32 BFT Ships and Carriages.esp 51 33 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 52 34 SFO - Dragonborn.esp 53 35 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 54 36 CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp 55 37 werewolvesofskyrim.esp MLU - Artifacts of Boethiah.esp MLU - CCOR New Recipes.esp MLU - ESO Daedric Armor.esp MLU - Farmers Sell Produce.esp MLU - Harvest Overhaul Creatures.esp MLU - Heart Breaker.esp MLU - Improved Artifacts.esp MLU - Inigo.esp MLU - No Combat Boundaries.esp 56 38 Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp 57 39 MLU - Radiant and Unique Potions.esp MLU - Skyrim Coin Replacer Redux.esp 58 3a Unique Uniques.esp 59 3b MLU - Unique Uniques.esp 60 3c MLU - SPERG.esp 61 3d Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp 62 3e BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp 63 3f BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp 64 40 EFFDialogue.esp 65 41 BetterQuestObjectives-EFFPatch.esp 66 42 Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp 67 43 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp 68 44 MLU - Lore Weapon Expansion.esp 69 45 LostLongSwords.esp MLU - GELO.esp MLU - Stealth Skills Rebalanced.esp MLU - Warmonger Armory.esp MLU - OBIS.esp 70 46 AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 71 47 AOS2_Purity Patch.esp 72 48 AOS2_WAF Patch.esp MLU - AOS2.esp 73 49 NB-Scars.esp 74 4a Beards.esp 75 4b SkyUI.esp 76 4c TradeBarter.esp 77 4d Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp 78 4e UIExtensions.esp Clothing & Clutter_3DNPC_Patch.esp 79 4f KrittaKitty_horses_uniqueFrost.esp frostyfrost.esp 80 50 Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp 81 51 BF.esp 82 52 character creation overhaul.esp 83 53 cco - diverse races and genders.esp 84 54 cco - dynamic skill progression.esp 85 55 cco - oblivion carry weights.esp 86 56 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 87 57 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp I think the mod that is causing all of the conflicts is MorrowLoot Ultimate, but I am not 100%- all I do know is that when I upgraded my GPU from an HD 7950 that the CTDs started becoming much more frequently. I have a lot of knowledge in the installation of mods, but when things don't work, I don't have a lot of knowledge when it comes to troubleshooting. Any help would be greatly appreciated and if more info is needed I would be more than happy to give it. (I also have a lot of ini tweaks which include the z-fighting fixes)

Video no go huh? Alright here are some more options: 1. Can u right-click (in steam) -> Delete local content -> Go to Steam Library folder (Whichever HDD you installed ur steam games on) -> delete the Skyrim folder (It still contains files, this is a proper re-install :smile:) -> re-install skyrim? 2. Can you right-click(in steam) -> properties -> Local Files -> Verify integrity of game cache? 3. Unsure, try those two. If none worked let me know and I'll see if I can think of something else. I have this open in a tab and will refresh it every hour or so :wink:. We will solve this, I insist, don't argue with me I am rather stubbourn :tongue: EDIT: Typos! I did the second option and while it worked I ran into a new problem: The game crashes right before the menu now. I am guess that it sort of disabled SKSE, I don't know why it did that, but there should be no conflicts between mods at this point.

Does anyone know?