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lol at bben's answer, yeah i was aware of the limitations due to ram in 32 bit but i wasn't sold my PC by a sales man, i got all my gear online and my mate made it for me, unfortunately due to money i couldn't afford a better os so i thought i would get it later, this might very well be later :P On the other hand, I have seen people commenting on youtube etc about the mods they have on their oblivion and how well they run the game, most people who comment end up having a worst system than i do (downgrade gfx from mine, etc. Usually around the same CPU though) but they all have 64 bit, i wouldn't dare run my game with see everything mods cause my pc would die :(. Made me wonder if it isn't because my game is heavily modded and it is taking away ram resources when my gfx card is supposed to be doing some work nether. I guess theoretically when my PC wants more ram it steals it from the gfx card and when it wants more vmem it steals it from my ram making the game struggle for fps and ram ALL the time, (IE: for example, if the game needs 1.5g ram then it is only using 400MB of Vmem) if this is the case then it certainly explains why people with weaker PCs are able to run BC, UL, FCOM and the see everything mods without going under 15fps In said instance i expect that if i upgrade then i will be able to use my gfx card's full power and it should theoretically raise my frame rates a good bunch, would this be an accurate description or am i missing something?

Let me start off by telling you that I am not the most PC literate person on my block o_O let alone in the world lol, Now that we got that out of the way you might forgive my next few newbie questions. I am fairly new to PC gaming, having only gotten my PC last Christmas, and i can run Crysis on my PC on max settings (including the DX10 mod) pretty smoothly.Which is why I get confused when i mod my Oblivion with better cities, qar's 3, FCOM and a few other mods and the darn PC starts struggling like it has a cold. Max system specs: I7 920 (OC'd to 3:20GHZ) 6 DDR3 Ram GTX 275 (apparently its a better version, it was about £50 more than the standard, bought online) Windows xp 32 So i guess my question is, is my card just not good enough for modding Oblivion with Qarl's, etc, or is my xp 32 crapping all over my system? Problem is, I downloaded FCOM super pack to try it out and my game still slows down to 25fps at points. This is without any additional mods like BC and Qarls or UL :( I have read an article that told me that a 32 bit OS will have to share the max 3GHZ om ram with the GFX card, could that be the problem? is my game using so much ram that it can't shove more of my card's V memory in? Also, will swamping to Windows 7 pro make a big change in my modded oblivion? will i be able to run mods like open better cities or see everything distant (something i wouldn't even dream of attempting right now), how much extra FPS do you think i would gain and would i virtually eliminate the stuttering? (i can eliminate all the stuttering with fcom supper pack thanks to the ini changes, but frames are still bad in places like Imperial city water front :() Please, I am kinda lost here and i would really appreciate your help, letting me know the advantages of 64 from 32 bit on oblivion or just telling me that my system is simply just not good enough would greatly help :) Thank you for your time.

Off topic question, how long did it take you to know all this stuff dude?

have you tried importing it on wrye bash? also, why don't you just get "Race balancing project"? it gives you more than cobl and it balances races and star signs mate.

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Thanks guys :) sorry that the link didn't contain any more dragons :(

You are right, i do feel like kicking myself :S Me and Motosxorpio were completely lost for words on this one (he goes to the chat rooms, don't know if you know him) i was literally giving up hope and installing fcom supper pack when you shed some light on why my time wasn't completely wasted :) I have read about BAIN a lil but i was too scared to try it, from what i hear it doesn't add the easy omod installation that i am now used to :S leaving me greater chance to mess up i think, i might give it a go though, just cause it sounds more interesting. can i put a BAIN file on my current installation? i have about 70 mods atm i think. And by the way... Thank you, thank you and thank you some more :D you stopped me from pulling out my hair, and considering i am bald, i was gonna pull out my head instead :S

I am still lost with this weird one, i have uploaded some pics so you can see what i mean about my save game not having the esp's http://s324.photobucket.com/albums/k334/TonkRogerio/MOTO/ as you can see, the esp's are merged but the save still says they aren't :S Creating a new game doesn't change this fact unfortunately

Lol i see your point, Its the reason I use emoticons myself as I am also very blunt. So i can appreciate what you are saying. I think you are most probably right though, this was just a big miss understanding. You see, the title was supposed to be a play on words, the All natural fail was a joke title for the natural ability i have at making things fail, i thought it would be funny considering the name of the mod was called all natural lol. I am sure my inability to use grammar didn't help nether.On the other hand though, i love the mod, and i know it can work properly and i have seen you help out A LOT! And that i can also appreciate. Although, I think I may have spoken too soon, The mod started working again perfectly when i Reinstalled it but as soon as i restarted my PC it went back to the same pink sky syndrome :( Its confusing the heck out of me now and I am lost for words, if it was based on my new drivers, wouldn't it just be pink all the time instead of it fixing itself when installed and then reverting back to pink when i restart my PC? meh, I am confused -.- I have uninstalled it properly, and reinstalled it properly and then it goes all funky when i restart my PC again, what do you think is causing this problem? sorry for all this dude, hope you can help out as i can't :S EDIT: OK i have uninstalled and installed again and once again everything was fine, i noticed that it wasn't the pc shutting down but wrye bash or obmm shutting down that caused the problem, when i restarted wrye bash, i also noticed that my "All natural base.esm" and " kvatch rebuilt weather patch.esp" were deactivated, so i reactivated them and started Oblivion, well, the nights are still dark, the sky is mostly pink and the windows aren't see through any more, so it looks like my wrye bash is messing up all natural when it closes down but I am not sure :S EDIT2: OK from what i can tell, it looks like every time i restart wrye bash, it partially deactivates All natural, and no mater how much i rebuild the bash patch it stays deactivated, the meshes and textures are gone but it also looks like the all natural ini is still active because my darker nights ini tweak is still in affect, it also looks like my real lights is also still in affect. When i look at the save file i used to save the game after i reinstall all natural, it has the "all natural.esp and all natural SI.esp" files untagged, i know they are there because i can see a litle dot inside the box and even if i rebuild the bash patch the save game still has those 2 esp files untagged :S what could be causing this?

Well Smooth, I am thankful that you came to my rescue but I don't understand your hostility or your unwillingness to see that i never once pointed at the mod itself for being at fault. As a matter of fact, even someone unable to use complicated logic can assume that i blamed the driver installation and/or myself for this incident. Clues 1: I mentioned i used the mod successfully before. (so that shows I understand that the mod works correctly) 2: I made references to another mod that didn't work very well after my actions of updating the driver. (once again, i couldn't be blaming two mods specially when i pointed out all this took place AFTER my driver update) 3: "does this affect happen from updating your gfx card drivers?" ( looks like I am blaming the drivers and not the mod itself here) 4: "I am not very PC literate TBH so I am a bit lost" (Looks like I am directing the fault to something other than the mod here considering I am making a mention of my PC abilities and not how i handle mods or the mod itself. Putting this with clue one will confirm that i wasn't referring to All natural as the possible cause of this problem). There are plenty more little clues but i think these will suffice for now. Don't get me wrong, I am indeed very grateful for your assistance and I believe that your diagnosis of what caused the error is most probably correct (haven't done as you suggested yet but the fact that i didn't do it in the first place makes me think this> i will keep you informed on the subject if your ego still permits you to continue to help me on this subject). I don't understand however, how one can be so rude and judgmental of someone they have never met, and to be frank, I am very confused at how you came to such a negative view of what i was implying. I would greatly appreciate some of your own evidence as to what led you to your conclusion or perhaps an apology. Thanks for your time. EDIT: Well I have done everything you have asked and everything is working perfectly, On top of that, my PC is also running smoother (i had already upgraded my drivers incorrectly in the past) so double thanks for fixing all natural and my PC for me ;)

OK i Installed All natural today using OBMM and it was working pretty well, i walked around the imperial city at night to see all the lovely new lights and darkness after updating the ini, and then i thought of updating my GTX275 drivers :S well i installed 258.96 (winxp 32bit) and as soon as i restarted oblivion it asked me to check for my PC stats as if it was the first time i started Oblivion, so i thought of getting my backed up ini file and so i did. As the game started i noticed problems with enb series straight away, the screen was blocky on the edges, so i turned it off and proceeded to load my game. The weather is normal at first but as soon as i go anywhere (fast travel, out the door, etc) the sky turns into pinkness of doom, or purpleness of doom at night. I noticed that my ini was reset for all natural also, does this affect happen from updating your gfx card drivers? I am not very PC literate TBH so I am a bit lost, i have installed All natural successfully before so I am aware of how the bash patch should be. Edit:on top 0of that, when i start a new dungeon there are missing texture signs in the windows of the cell and every hole in the ceiling has them signs also. Can someone who isn't a complete PC retard like me give me a hand at deciphering this problem so i can carry on trying to finish modding Oblivion please? Thanks for your time.

I hated Fallout for my 360 mostly because the controls were rubbish, i had to use vats or i wouldn't hit anything -.- Don't get me wrong, I can play 360 shooters, but unfortunatly, Fallout 3 just wasn't very well handled in the console controls department. This issue has happened before with titles like Deus EX for the Playstation 2 and Deus EX2 for the XBox.

Meh, all my pictures are too big to upload :( Any who, this is the only one i could upload. Check out my http://s324.photobucket.com/home/TonkRogerio/allalbums Profile to see some more of my pictures if your into that sort of stuff :P They are separated in the age i was and two comic books i have done. Hope you enjoy.

welcome to modblivion :(

I am not sure if there are forum rules to stay on topic so i will just say type oblivion fcom on Google :)

wow smooth, i have been looking for a site like that for ages mate, i thought i could come here and help a fellow modblivion starter like me and i got helped instead :S thank you so much for that site mate, that's is just what i was looking for, hopefully it will explain why tamrieltravelersitesnpc.esp has no merge on it and shouldn't be activated but isn't in the mergable sections when i try to build my patch :S well i will surely enjoy reading that website, it looks a lot better than the ones i have been looking at. once again, thank you so much dude. is there a way to give you credit? like kudos or something? i wanna show my appreciation :P

can't help you there dude, that's the part i haven't got down my self :S i can find lots of wrye bash sites online but they usually don't have a proper faq, they are usually aimed at people who actually know what they are doing but just need some tips. from what i have learned though, bash patch is like a big massive patch for oblivion but with the mods you want, so on the bash patch section, what ever you tick, will be loaded as a patch. so i guess it helps you when you reach the 255esp limit. importing i am still not 100% sure about but it kind of sounds like you just import parts of the mod, like import graphics, you would only be importing the graphics of a mod, import npc, you would only be importing the npc's of that mod if you marked it. but i could be wrong mate, as i said, I'm kinda new to this, have been trying to run a stable modded oblivion for well over a week and failing, its really difficult to get it right and there are always problems when getting lots of mods together, are you using fcom by any chance?

it is asking you to rebuild your bash patch using wrye bash, you have to look for the "bash patch" right click it, then rebuild patch, when the menu comes up you look for import cells and you mark it, then on the menu out of import cells (on the right) you look for "all natural.esp, all natural - SI.esp (if you have SI that is) and finally, indoor weather filter for mods.esp) and mark them all so they are active. you really should learn to work with wrye bash for modding oblivion or this wo0unt be the first problem you will find unfortunately, it is hard mate, i am only starting now my self and i have many problems, but i hope you will get there :)

Smooth is right, you wont need darker nights as all natural already has it inbuilt, you just need to change the ini, however, it doesn't include darker dungeons so you will have to download a separate mod for that if you want darker dungeons (i suggest "let there be darkness" or "let there be more darkness" if you have some of the mods it specifies) the awesome thing about all natural and let there be (more) darkness is that all natural takes all the "unnatural" light sources from the dungeons and let there be (more) darkness makes them darker and clears the crappy blue fog.

I am not sure if it has already been answered but this might help with streamline. I had problems trying to start up streamline and i looked everywhere for a solution, there were lots of people begging for help but most people couldn't understand the problem, eventually i found someone who found a solution and this helped me after nothing else did :S well the way you download it is correct, you do put every thing in your data folder but sometimes it just wont work, the reason for that is that there is a problem with save games, it just doesn't like some save games for some reason, so the solution is, use different save games until you get one that works. simple :)

Thank you for the fast reply :) Oblivion.esm Jog_X_Mod.esm Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm Cobl Main.esm Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Mart's Monster Mod.esm Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm FCOM_Convergence.esm Armamentarium.esm Artifacts.esm Kvatch Rebuilt.esm AFC v2 Core.esm HorseCombatMaster.esm TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp FCOM_Francescos.esp FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp AFC v2 Combo Chains.esp AFC v2 Combat Moves.esp AFC v2 Gauntlet Weaponry.esp AFC v2 Locational Damage.esp Item interchange - Extraction.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp Hiyoko_Store.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Cobl Glue.esp Cobl Si.esp OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp FCOM_BobsArmory.esp Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp Oblivion WarCry EV.esp FCOM_WarCry.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp OMOBS.esp OMOBS_SI.esp ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp FCOM_Convergence.esp FCOM_RealSwords.esp FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp Mart's Monster Mod - AlienSlof Horses Complete.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp FCOM_Archery.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp MMM-Cobl.esp Halcyon Island_lowconflict.esp Artifacts.esp Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp ICEXPAND.esp JolardHome.esp JQ-Streams_Of_Silver.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp OldCrowInn.esp thievery.esp Valley_View_Estate.esp 1SB_VampireHaven.esp VaultsofCyrodiil.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCfrostcrag.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp FrostcragRebornCobl.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Damarask.esp RTT.esp The Lost Spires.esp Mighty Umbra.esp Blood&Mud.esp FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp FCOM_Knights.esp Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp ElsweyrAnequina.esp bartholm.esp Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp RealisticFatigue.esp RealisticHealth.esp SupremeMagicka.esp SM_ShiveringIsles.esp SM_DLCSpellTome.esp SM_OOO.esp SM_MMM.esp SM_COBL.esp SM_EnchantStaff.esp SM_UnlockSpells.esp SM_Scrolls.esp SM_SigilStone.esp bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp MidasSpells.esp Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp SM_DeadlyReflex.esp RealisticLeveling.esp Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp bgBalancingEVCore.esp bgMagicEV.esp bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp bgMagicItemSigil.esp bgMagicEVStartspells.esp bgMagicBonus.esp bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp bgMagicAlchemy.esp bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp bgBalancingOptionalLessHealth.esp bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Beautification.esp bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp bgIntegrationEV.esp bgMagicEVShader.esp bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp bgMagicLightningbolt.esp Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp FormID Finder4.esp Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp well i usually use boss for my load order. as for crashing, its the first one yet that i have come across and it always happens at the same time (around 450pm on the forth day) only after that crash if, ocps prevents it, does the game start to show unnatural behavior, excluding the problem with idfinder (yeah i found the name now :P) and realistic fatigue. so this leads me to believe that it isn't just a random crash, there is a problem with conflicting mods or something that is forcing this weird behavior on that certain day and time. i have tried reading through hundreds of faqs to do with modding oblivion and the likes, but its still a bit confusing. The fact that i come across problems like this tells me i am obviously missing something. I did find that tamrieltravelersitemsnpc.esp has a no merge tag on it, maybe its causing the problem as i am not familiar with the no merge tag, it doesn't show up anywhere in the bash patch when i create it, but it tells me to turn it off o_O very confusing... On the other hand, it might be that i am merging things wrong, i have merged everything labeled safe from https://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/bashedpatch/fcombashedpatch and followed everything appropriately as far as i can tell. I am thankful again for showing me how to past load orders and for the links, if you have any other help with this problem i would be very appreciative :) and i hope you can forgive my horrible grammar, i know what i post can be hard to read so thanks for your patience also. EDIT: i have also noticed that after the ocps stops the crash on the forth day, the guards have invisible torches if this helps. EDIT 2: OK i managed to make the crash stop from happening at all (i think it was a problem with salmons bakery in cobl), but the guards are still holding invisible torches, even during the day time...

Hey guys, I am new to modding oblivion and i have to say, it is one of the most annoying games i ever come across to mod :( I have been trying to mod it for well over a week now, constantly restarting from fcom and most recently i restarted the hole things from scratch. there's always problems, even now when the game looks the most stable i have found yet another problem and this time its game stopping. Basically, the game will play fine up till the 4rth day after 4pm, then the game ctd, i installed the ocps and it stops the crash, however, if i try to rest its fine but if i try to quick travel, it ctd, i can go outside but the land misses water etc till I'm right up close to it. i would love to show you my load list but i don't know how I'm afraid, i can tell you i do have fcom and various other story mods, midas, supreme and lame for my mage :P, deadly reflexes, etc. there are additional minor problems, such as realistic fatigue not working always as it should (fatigue bar getting stuck mid way for example) and when i scan people with this mod i downloaded to spot which mod is causing mixing textures (i forget the name sorry :S) i get people with pink squares were the items are supposed to be, if i kill them the items are there though and i can equip them but when i press alt+right click, the items are pink icons with descriptions like "icon missing:textures,icon" etc. If someone could please help me as all i want to do now is just play the frigging game :( I'm am tired of modding this to just start again because i don't know what the problems are. Thanks for reading and hopefully helping me with this and sorry in advance if i am posting in the wrong place.