[Unique Radiant Raiment Fine Clothes]

Bump. I think this is a good idea for a mod. The elegant outfit you're supposed to model before Elisif is like every other elegant outfit rich NPCs wear all over Skyrim. At least a color change from puke green?

[Source for steam_api64.dll file?]

I tried validating my game files that way; it made no difference. I also checked and there is a steam_api64.dll file under the main SSE folder under steam apps so I have no idea why it is giving me this error. I also uninstalled and reinstalled CK64 but that didn't work either. Do I really need to uninstall and reinstall SSE?

[Source for steam_api64.dll file?]

I reinstalled Creation Kit 64 for SSE but get the error message that steam_api64.dll file is missing and program needs to be reinstalled. Where do I get this file and how do I install it?

[Unusual case of dark face bug....]

My general understanding of the dark face bug is that it results when you have a conflict between mods that change a character's appearance caused by a discrepancy between the plugin load order versus the mod or data load order. The mod with the desired look should be loaded last on both sides, after all other mods impacting the affected NPC. I found SSEEdit a useful tool to help figure this out because it identifies all mods that modify the character.

 

I've now found a character with dark face that isn't impacted by any of the NPC overhaul mods I've installed: Brina Merilis, the Imperial loyalist sister of the Jarl of Dawnstar. According to SSEEdit, there are no mods in my current setup that overhaul her appearance. So what's the likely culprit here?

 

 

[CTD on first change-screen]

Hmm... You got quite a large load order. I didn't see anything obviously wrong. But there are lots of mods changing towns and villages - and also some mods adding NPCs. I'm not an expert on mods like "JK's Skyrim" or "Settlements expanded", so I can't say for sure, if there are compatibility issues. But that's definitely something you should check.

 

Apart from that, mods adding buildings and - more important - NPCs will put some strain on your system. And you got a lot of this type of mods. So it may be an "overload" issue.

 

So, what could you do? IMHO the only way would be to go back to a stable load order and restart from there. Maybe you still know what mods you had installed before the CTDs started. If so, go back to that configuration. If you're unsure, start uninstalling the last mods you added, until the problem goes away.

 

I know this isn't particularly helpful right now, but when building up load orders like yours, you need to test a lot. Only add a few mods at a time, then test...

 

On a side note: I'm not sure if checking in xedit will tell you, if a master file needs to be cleaned. The normal way is using LOOT. If the master files need cleaning, LOOT will tell you. From my experience, LOOT is very reliable in this respect.

 

Algabar, thanks for taking a look at my load order! I was following the "Nordic Skyrim" load order. He tested it on his PC, which is powerful and up-to-date. My PC, which only has 2 GIGs VRAM and no SSD drive might be overwhelmed by an ambitious load order. I only wish I knew a bit more about what kind of mods tax what resources. For texture mods, I know enough to stick with "performance" versions of the mod or to stick with 2K or less. For other types of mods, I'm clueless.

 

I tried disabling some mods but had no success in fixing the problem. I ultimately decided to start another "instance" under MO2 and try to do a watered down version of the mod list with far fewer plugins. Hopefully, I've learned something along the way...

[CTD on first change-screen]

Could you post your load order please? Without knowing which mods you have installed, it's pure guessing...

 

Also please give us more information on the CTDs:

- Arre they related to certain taverns or do they happen when exiting ANY tavern?

- Are the CTDs limited to certain cities (which might indicate a problem with a city overhaul mod)?

- What happens if you enter and exit other buildings than taverns (e.g. shops, Dragonsreach, temples etc...)?

Load Order:

 

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

7 7 arnima.esm

8 8 Falskaar.esm

9 9 Alpine Forest of Whiterun Valley.esp

10 a TravellersOfSkyrim.esm

11 b ApachiiHair.esm

12 c ApachiiHairFemales.esm

13 d ApachiiHairMales.esm

14 e RSkyrimChildren.esm

254 FE 0 Windhelm Bridge Overhaul - Patch for Windhelm Exterior Altered.esp

254 FE 1 Windhelm Exterior - Sewers Patch.esp

JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp

Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm

15 f TravellersOfSkyrim - Light.esp

16 10 Lanterns of Skyrim Light Balance Patch.esp

17 11 Cutting Room Floor.esp

18 12 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

19 13 Ducks and Swans.esp

20 14 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

21 15 SkyUI_SE.esp

22 16 Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp

23 17 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

24 18 SSE High Quality Music.esp

25 19 TerrainLodRedone.esp

26 1a QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp

27 1b SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

28 1c Skytest Creature Extension.esp

29 1d RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

30 1e WetandCold.esp

31 1f You Hunger.esp

32 20 You Hunger - Falskaar.esp

33 21 EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp

34 22 EconomyOverhaulandCuttingRoomFloorPatch.esp

35 23 OBIS SE.esp

36 24 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

37 25 Lupinus.esp

38 26 High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp

39 27 High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp

40 28 High Level Enemies.esp

41 29 High Level Enemies - Increased Max Resists.esp

42 2a High Level Enemies - Raised Ability Caps.esp

43 2b Ars Metallica.esp

44 2c simpleCarriageExpansion.esp

45 2d Immersive Encounters.esp

46 2e DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp

47 2f BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp

48 30 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp

49 31 Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp

50 32 Mythical Ages.esp

51 33 TrueStormsSE.esp

52 34 Mythical_TS_Patch_Dusky.esp

53 35 Mythical_TSPatch_Wet&Cold_AddOn.esp

54 36 WondersofWeather.esp

55 37 Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp

56 38 S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp

57 39 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp

58 3a S3DLandscapes NextGenerationForests.esp

59 3b JKs Skyrim.esp

60 3c Blues Skyrim.esp

61 3d EconomyOverhaulandDawnofSkyrimPatch.esp

62 3e Dawn of Skyrim RND Patch.esp

63 3f JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp

64 40 Windhelm Exterior Altered.esp

65 41 Windhelm Bridge Overhaul.esp

66 42 Windhelm Lighthouse.esp

67 43 Solitude Exterior Addon.esp

68 44 Raven Rock.esp

69 45 SkyrimSewers.esp

70 46 OutlawsRefuges.esp

71 47 JKs Skyrim_OutlawsRefuges_Patch.esp

72 48 Deadly Shadows for JK Skyrim.esp

73 49 DragonbridgeVendorsAndBlacksmith.esp

74 4a ShezrieOldHroldanVer2.esp

75 4b Skyrim Reborn - Whiterun Hold.esp

76 4c Darkwater Crossing.esp

77 4d Karthwasten - Let The Silver Flow.esp

78 4e half-moon-mill-vampire-town.esp

79 4f TES Arena Amol.esp

80 50 Tes Arena Nimalten.esp

81 51 Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp

82 52 Settlements Expanded SE.esp

83 53 Settlements Expanded SE - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp

84 54 Gavrostead.esp

85 55 Overstead.esp

86 56 Keld-Nar.esp

87 57 CampNewZainab.esp

88 58 Badersee.esp

89 59 CL BarrelsCratesChests.esp

90 5a cliffs.esp

91 5b Convenient Bridges.esp

92 5c Man Those Borders!.esp

93 5d UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

94 5e HoldBorderBanners.esp

95 5f Laundry.esp

96 60 frozenintime.esp

97 61 notice board.esp

98 62 OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp

99 63 Missives.esp

100 64 Better Dynamic Snow.esp

101 65 BlendedRoads.esp

102 66 UnreadBooksGlow.esp

103 67 BottlesOfSkyrim_RND_compatible.esp

104 68 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

105 69 3DNPC.esp

106 6a CollegeStudents.esp

107 6b TES5SE NPCs Travel.esp

108 6c SolstheimMerchantsInWhiterun.esp

109 6d WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp

110 6e The_Sinister_Seven.esp

111 6f Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

112 70 Artifacts.esp

113 71 Cloaks&Capes.esp

114 72 Immersive Weapons.esp

115 73 USSEP-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

116 74 ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp

117 75 Elemental_Staffs.esp

118 76 EnneadShields.esp

119 77 KS Hairdo's.esp

120 78 PAN_NPCs.esp

121 79 Bijin_AIO-SV 2018.esp

Bijin Warmaidens.esp

Bijin Wives.esp

Bijin NPCs.esp

122 7a IB - All-in-One.esp

123 7b Hott Interesting NPCs.esp

124 7c RaceMenu.esp

125 7d RaceMenuPlugin.esp

126 7e XPMSE.esp

127 7f TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

128 80 Player Blink Fix.esp

129 81 ModestElderly.esp

130 82 nwsFollowerFramework.esp

131 83 Andromeda.esp

132 84 RSChildren.esp

Realistic Haircolors.esp

12FemaleBrows.esp

Valerica.esp

Serana.esp

Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp

Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Realistic Water Two Patch.esp

Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp

CinematicFireFX.esp

CWIOOSEPatchReplacer.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

dilenoalmohican.esp

ELE_SSE.esp

EmbersHD.esp

FireBurns.esp

JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp

mihailpheasantsandducks.esp

OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE Replacer.esp

Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp

PCE - 3DNPC Patch.esp

PCE - RDO Patch.esp

PCE - Relighting Skyrim.esp

PCE - Skyrim Sewers Patch.esp

PCE - USSEP+CRF Patch.esp

RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp

RDO - USSEP Patch.esp

Realistic-Voice.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp

RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

Serana Dialogue Edit.esp

Skysan_Icicle.esp

SOT-Sleeping.esp

STAC.esp

T'Skyrim - True Skyrim.esp

TMBVanillaArmorandClothes.esp

133 85 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

134 86 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

 

 

 

Update: I ran SSEDIT and found a CTD error caused by a mod being out of place. I made there correction and tried running game again. (I considered cleaning the Master files, but SSEDIT didn't indicate any problems that needed to be cleaned.)

 

For going to the Riverwood Tavern, before it CTDd during the "Change Screen." Now I get an infinite load screen. No crash, just a load screen that never ends.

 

Next time, I'll try some other scenario to see if the results are the same.

I then tried putting PC in Whiterun tavern. PC makes it out the door.....and then CTD.

 

Edit: Regarding Load Order, I try to match up the "data" side with plugin load order posted above.

[CTD on first change-screen]

Currently, I'm using the Alternate Start mods. When I start up the game, I go through the usual character creation & destination selection process. Lately, I've had my PC go local taverns. The moment the PC tries to exit the tavern, I see the change screen, but then soon after a CTD occurs.

 

My game is modded and I'm using MO2 as my mod manager. Any ideas as to what would cause this? Any utility to deal with CTDs? Or any maintence I need to do to files?

 

Yes, I'm upgraded to the latest SKSE.

[Game Controller stops working with SSE]

I was having problems with my previous install, so I did a clean reinstall of SSE and switched to Mod Organizer 2. Now my Logitech Gamepad F310 controller no longer works with SSE. Any ideas as to what the problem might be? Any setting that needs to be adjusted?

 

 

Update: Never mind; found game setting to put controller back on!

[CTD while using Racemenu to change gender to female]

Currently, following a mod list and using Vortex as mod manager. Earlier had a problem with infinite loading screens after using Racemenu with Alternate Start. Resolved that problem using SSE Engine Fixes. Was able to start practice PTs with 235 mods installed. I finished the list and had exactly 250 mods installed. At that point, when trying to start PT, I would reach Racemenu Character Creator through Alternate Start but CTD would occur when trying to set PC gender to female. I have since begun to uninstall less important mods. I'm down to 241 but still get CTD. Are there any other tools aside from Engine Fixes or LOOT I should be using to deal with this problem?

[Infinite Loading Screens?]

I currently use Racemenu and Alternate Start. When I load up SSE, I get the normal and choose a scenario.....and then end up with infinite loading screens when I go to the bed to "start a new life." I didn't seem to have this problem when I used ECE instead of Racemenu. Any thoughts as to what's going wrong?

[Is there any mod to remove Foresworn facial tatts?]

Especially on female Foresworn, the facial tatts are too much. Any way to get rid of them or lessen them? On various Nexus sites, I see pics of females in Foresworn armor without the tatts. Surely there has to be a mod out there to do that?

[What category NPC overhauls?]

I just installed "Babes of Skyrim." Vortex simply put it in "default" category. Is there any special category for NPC overhauls? Or do I want to make it an "early loader?" Or a "late loader"?

[Bleak Falls Barrow is purple?]

Purple items generally means a missing texture.

When you said you deleted SS and redownloaded from steam, did you make sure to delete EVERYTHING left over manually as well after, otherwise there is a good chance there is remnants of mods, that would mess up with filepaths and stuff, which very well could indeed lead to the game thinking it got some textures missing.

 

So yeah I would say delete it again, and then go into your steam folder and make sure there is absolutely no remains of skyrim at all, and first then actually redownload it again

 

I not only deleted sse again, I also deleted vortex as well and was finally freed of the purple plague. I reinstalled vortex again and connected it to my clean reinstall of sse. The new vortex download gained access to all the old mods -- undeployed -- but so far hasn't foisted the purple plague on me again. Hopefully, by carefully reinstalling mods, I should avoid future problems or catch the culprit early and delete it.

[Bleak Falls Barrow is purple?]

After messing around with my mod configuration lled to a "purple food" problem, I decided ito get a fresh start. I deleted SSE then re-downloaded from Steam. Yet when running the game in a vanilla state (no mods), I noticed some things in the far off distance were purple, most notably the ruins of Bleak Falls Barrow. So, was my fresh download corrupted? Or am I simply noticing a common graphic glitch for the first time? Is there anything I can do?

[Understanding how Vortex handles game files...]

You don't actually mention your saves. You have to roll back to a save from before you made the change.

Once you remove a mod using Vortex, there should be no traces of it left in your game directory.

Not true of your saves starting with when you installed the mod.

 

I thought of that, so I went back to Alternate Start to start another PT -- this time as a patron at a pub -- and found the same purple food problem. So I'm still confused as to what caused the problem.

[Understanding how Vortex handles game files...]

I've been using Vortex to try to assemble an ideal mod list for Skyrim Special Edition. When the Racemenu character creator became available, I tried to switch from ECE to Racemenu. Unfortunately, Racemenu didn't work properly, so I switched back to ECE. I assumed this would put me back to where I was before. Instead, I find that many foods and ingredients are now purple. Could switching between character creators have caused this problem? When you muddle between using and not using a certain mod, does the experimentation alter the game files so that you can't go back to exactly what you had before?

 

What should I do? Clean re-install SSE? (I hope my descriptions are reasonably clear.)

[Infinite Loading screen....]

in that case you're missing a needed dependent file, either a patch file or a master file for one of your mods

 

But why would changing from ECE to Racemenu cause the problem to emerge?

[Infinite Loading screen....]

you're mistake was in removing / deleting a mod, you NEVER do this. It will break your saves EVERY single time. There "may" be a work around though.

 

start a new game, and as soon as you can try loading your most recent save

IF it loads, immediately save and quit the game

restart the game and the newest save "should" work

 

I wasn't trying to start a saved game after installing Racemenu. I was trying to do a whole new PT. Unfortunately, the infinite load screen intervened...

[Infinite Loading screen....]

After switcing from ECE to Racemenu, I now get the infinite loading screen glitch. I use the Alternate Start mod. The opening screen with the talking statue of Mara starts up correctly. I'm able to use RACEMENU to select a racemenu preset. I undressed the PC to make sure body mod loaded properly. Then after selecting the desired start scenario, I get the ininfinite loading screen.. Is this a common Racemenu issue? What can I do besides switching back to ECE?

[Adjusting mod load order...]

False alarm. After rebooting my system, everything works properly again as before.

 

Just curious, any idea how close we are to having Vortex complete its Alpha testing?

[Adjusting mod load order...]

One of the things I liked about Vortex previously was that mods that overwrote the same files would be identified and grouped together; you could then click on the lightning bolt that would appear in the dependenceis column, and the mods overwriting the same files would appear and you would be able to order them accordingly. Now the red lightning bolt appears, but clicking on it doesn't allow you to order anything. What am I missing here?

[Help! SKSE doesn't work anymore!]

Go to the SSE Forum, there are a number of posts dealing with this problem and how to solve it. SSE was updated and SKSE64 2_00_07 will not work with the updated SSE esm. They should have SKSE64 updated shortly.

 

Thanks. I dug up a YouTube vide that had a good workaround. Good to know that an SKSE update is coming.

[Help! SKSE doesn't work anymore!]

I've been away from the computer for three weeks. I came back and find that Steam has updated my SSE to something beyond what the latest SKSE will work with. What do I do? I seem to remember some workaround.... Anything to prevent this in the future? What does Bethesda update anyhow?

[Latest Vortex update?]

There are stickies in the vortex forums that tell you this.

 

I know I'm missing something basic, but where would I go to see these stickies?

The latest stable (0.15.9) should be pretty stable, I'm not aware of any mayor issues with it.

 

Many thanks, Tannin!

[Latest Vortex update?]

I've been away from my computer for several weeks. When last I played, it was necessary to go back to an earlier version of Vortex because the then current version of Vortex was having problems with XP32 or XPMSE. Has Vortex been updated to address this problem?