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Is there a petition out there by any chance bben? If not, perhaps we should start one, to at least kind of ensure that we're not having a hard time with their future games and it being 2017 :P

we cannot make either of these, the game is not setup for it and most here dont have a blue screen. You mean we cannot simply change the animation? I wouldn't be quick to rule things out... Well, there was a mod somewhere(I think it was made in loverslab) that changed the way, err, where you can do magic, for women that is, in the chest area :P In any case, I suggest just making a new behavior, but this is a rather new and is still being worked on from what I'm seeing. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/38376/?

I thought of this just recently, but is it possible for someone to be able to use something like SKSE, or even going so far as to use a skyproc patcher, to tell the game that, if the exact same message is appearing in the log more than 5 times, stop printing the error? There have been some people here who have posted alternate versions of a mod's specific script that spams error messages, apparently causing crashes for other users, including me. I figure a more generalized approach to it would be beneficial to us all. Of course, I don't know how often error spams would cause crashes, or if such a thing is even possible to be made, but I thought I might as well put it in as a request.

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?showtopic=1033740 Of the RND patches that I have in the link here, I have RND_USKP-Patch.esp, RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp, RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp, RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp, RND_RWS-Patch.esp, which were all reported in the link above to have a successful merger. However, upon the merge completion, I encountered this error of a record not making it from "RND_RWS-Patch.esp": Removing records for second pass... Performing second pass copying... Copying records from RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Copying records from RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Copying records from RND_USKP-Patch.esp Copying records from RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Copying records from RND_RWS-Patch.esp Failed to copy [GRUP:] Creating FormLists... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your merged file has been created successfully. It has 134 records. The following records failed to copy: RWSRecipeFoodStuffedGourdHawk [COBJ:06050866] from file RND_RWS-Patch.esp GRUP Top "COBJ" from file RND_RWS-Patch.esp Script terminated itself, Result=-1 [Apply Script done] Processed Records: 5, Elapsed Time: 00:40 How do I go about fixing this so that I can totally complete the merge? Also, is it ok for me to renumber the formid's? Second question: is merging the populated series found in this link ok?: http://erkeilmods.altervista.org/skyrim/populated-lands-roads-paths-rs/

EDIT 2: I found what was going on, it had to do with the latest version of immersive college of winterhold, although it could totally be a script overload problem. I have some relevant information that I'll get to the author however straight away :smile: I think I also botched the merging of some of my plugins a bit there.... Oh well. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There was something I enjoyed fairly well with Minecraft, it was that it at least gave me hints at the culprit responsible by popping up a log if my game ever crashed. I don't understand why Skyrim can't do the same. Well anyways, I actually had this big of a load order running a long time ago, and in fact, I actually stayed my hand from ever cleaning certain mods, even though loot told me to. I only ever got the killcam crash but that was as far as it went. I suspect that my cleaning has now contributed to the crashings I've been receiving as of late. But as to the specifics, and my load order(I did not put in any skyproc patchers yet because they take a while), I am crashing on the bridge in front of whiterun, connecting it to the road towards riften, windhelm. But it could also be some mods here that are the cause of the issue. If anyone who's had this experience before, are you able to point me in the right direction? As I said, crashing was not a problem for me until rather recently, like today recently I installed a couple mods here recently and it started happening, I also made a merged patch from tes5edit and merged some plugins, but I'm in a bit of a hurry so I'll get back on that tonight here EDIT: I downloaded Combat Evolved, the next version of Immersive College of Winterhold, and Locational Damage(although I have since reversed that, sorry :\ ), moreHUD, Immsersive Sounds - Compendium, XP32 Maximum Skeleton(Groovtamas in the download page of that mod), and Pseudo parry animation. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm DynamicLoot.esm EFFCore.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp JSwords.esm SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm WinterholdDestruction.esm SkyMoMod.esm ORS_SolitudeGate.esm ORS_MorthalPain.esm RE_RealEstate_Core.esp HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp MoreBrains.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ETaC - Complete.esp ELFX - Dawnguard.esp EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp ELFX - Dragonborn.esp HitStop.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp CombatDramaOverhaul.esp DSerULG.esp Dr_BandolierDG.esp DynamicLoot_DB.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp DynamicLoot_DG.esp AOS.esp Pureweather.esp ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 3DNPC.esp SOTAntiCTD.esp 3DNPCEFF.esp ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp Epic Music Overhaul.esp UIExtensions.esp Exhaustion.esp JSwords_Load_Screens.esp PumpingIron.esp Immersive detection of NPC.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp ImmersiveSpells.esp ImportantInformationOverhaul.esp Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp Monster Wars.esp WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp RaceMenu.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp SkyUI.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp Guards Attack Hostiles.esp Helgen Reborn.esp ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp Rebirth Monster.esp Combat Evolved.esp ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp HighElfSkinTones.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp Vividian - AllinOne Presets.esp Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp ISCompendium AOS Patch.esp ISCompendium CCO Patch.esp SkyTEST Integration Patches.esp Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp TKDodge.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Vividian - Pure Weather Patch.esp Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - ESS + SS.esp Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp AOS2_SupremeStorms_CoT Patch.esp Vividian - Diverse Weathers - CoT + PW + AOS.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ESS Patch for CoT DG Patch.esp WetandCold.esp AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp Warmer Magic Lights v2 - Big.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp AOS2_EBT Patch.esp ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp getSnowy.esp lanterns.esp winterhold_improvements.esp WI_CWI_ELFX_Patch.esp CWIWCIPatch.esp ShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp OBIS.esp City of Dawnstar.esp Improved Artifacts - Complete Collection.esp OBISDB.esp Civil War Overhaul.esp Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp GardensOfWhiterun.esp FireAndIceOverhaul.esp UltimateDragons.esp AOS2_FIO Patch.esp FireAndIceOverhaulImmersiveSpells.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch.esp Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Lore Weapon Expansion.esp DynamicLoot_LoreWeaponExpansion.esp OBISDB-FaceMasksFix.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp WATER.esp RND_RWS-Patch.esp Immersive Whiterun.esp BetterCitiesWhiterun.esp Immersive Whiterun EEO Patch.esp RE_RealEstate.esp Immersive Solstheim.esp Immersive Solstheim EEO Patch.esp Inns and Taverns.esp CityForestV2_6.esp ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp WetandCold - Holidays.esp ETaC - Complete WC Holidays Patch.esp City Forest and Landscape V2 trees whiterun light fix.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp DynamicLoot_ImmersiveArmors&Weapons.esp DynamicLoot_JSwordsIAIW.esp WATER DB Waves.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins for USKP.esp Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp EFFDialogue.esp Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp TheFrontier.esp Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Cloaks.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp DragonmournInn.esp Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp TheDomain.esp ImmersiveStables.esp ETaC - Complete Im. Stables Patch.esp ETaC - Complete Taverns Patch.esp Atlas Legendary.esp AdalMatar.esp wizDynamicThings.esp JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp DF127CaranthirTowerMod.esp FGT.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp BandolierForNPC IA Cloaks WIC Dawnguard Patch.esp BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp OBISCloaks&IA7.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp WhiterunInEnhanced.esp PerMa_Survivalism.esp Bandit Patrols.esp ETaC - Complete ORS Patch.esp Cloaks - USKP Patch.esp WATER Plants.esp manny Lantern Caretakers.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp PerkusMaximus_Master.esp Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Bandolier.esp BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Bandolier DG.esp PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Frostfall.esp Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR IW Patch.esp WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp Unique Uniques.esp Pre PaMa Improved Artifacts.esp PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp SOT&RND Patches + Populated Series - Merged.esp USKP_NPCoverhaul_Patch.esp ETaC - Complete EEO Patch.esp PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp AOS2_WAF Patch.esp PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp OMageReplacerPack.esp CWINPCOpulentApachii.esp ETaC - Complete STO Patch.esp Wind Destruction.esp Duel - Combat Realism.esp UltimateCombat.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp OpulentMageUSKPReplacerPatch.esp CWICaranthirTowerPatch.esp ETaC - Complete RE Patch.esp FNISspells.esp RND_AnimalLoot.esp Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp Sleeping Innkeepers.esp Extended Encounters.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.esp BorderSense.esp ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp Imaginator BETA.esp ETaC - Complete SI Patch.esp WATER DG.esp WATER - Sir Crabalot Returns.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp TES5Merged.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp ASIS-Dependency.esp

Honestly, I would keep whatever pair of headphones you have now, and get the modmic. The sound quality your mic works out will at least be worth a hundred dollars.(or buy a pair of headphones, and then get this) I was looking through headsets a long time ago, like those astro pairs. I thought mics sounded that terrible because the general state of affairs is not up to snuff, boy was I ever happy that I was wrong :P

I have a single gtx 980 and it has a difficult time with 2560x1440, on enb that is. It's fine vanilla, in fact, that's what this thing nvidia likes to ship with it called "geforce experience" wants to set my skyrim at(too bad I have mod organizer, so my game reads different ini's :P ) But I get 60fps on 1920 x 1080 with the vividian enb and two weather mods(since they make it so you can have two and they'll place nice with each other for once) I think two gtx 970s is what people are calling the "sweet spot" of this generation. I also personally wouldn't spend so much on a cpu, I got an i5 4690k, it's doing wonders, and overclocking is a valid option if it's not up to speed in the future. In terms of immersion mods, well I blasted the mod limit of 255 esps, I have a relatively script-heavy order, and I even opted in on the locational damage mod. Really, I only get crashes because something is broken, like a deleted navmesh. Unfortunately, I wouldn't know too much about Amd/ati(they still call their graphics department ati right??), so I'm not much use there I'm afraid, lol. I myself game on a 60 inch. I was running on a $1500 budget and was interested in using whatever I had now for a display. To be honest, I prefer this setup. Brings me back to my console days especially when I get the controller going. I personally get more immersed in a game with a controller than with mouse and keyboard.

I haven't been on the mod manager for the longest of time, I've been using the other one here called mod organizer. Are you still having this issue?

Thanks for having helped thus far Mangaclub! One last question, I think you noticed the amount of lighting in my pictures within the google drive link. While I did fix the issue, everything does look less shiny, that hdr-esque effect is kind of gone. How do I return that back without having to resort to a white sky?(bright clouds)

Not to say anything disparaging, however, Auriellus, this talk of conservatism vs liberals seems to be centered around America. I would be the first to know as I live here! :laugh: It just seems like we're treading false-dilemma zone when we speak of these two as "polar opposite". You know, the man who invented the name "East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere", for all intents and purposes, had pretty conservative ideals, but he was also looked upon as a liberal, and this is also what got him jailed up, he did not agree with the Japanese militants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiyoshi_Miki My point is that "conservative" has a very different context all around. Kiyoshi Miki has conservative ideals in that he wanted Asia to be "de-europeanized" or "de-colonized" like his fellow intellectuals. I know a friend, a cultural activist, who is labelled a "conservative" for similar reasons, and it's not that either of these guys are racist, they don't hate the west or anything. In fact, my friend is probably the most liberal guy you will ever meet :) My second point is that in dealing with morality, there should not be a single locus centered on one part of the world. We are more colorful creatures than that, and thus, the scope of morality is a bigger ensemble.

I really couldn't see a benefit to doing one without the other. It's almost like a body vs mind question, almost...

I hate to be the one to break this to you but the government, as well as many groups that pull the strings of the government, doesn't really want a well educated population. Uneducated people are easier to control, more likely to settle for those cheap labor intensive jobs, and essentially owe their lives to creditor companies. The US may pride itself on its first world living status, but most of its economy and workforce more closely resembles that of a developing nation. That is true, the states really do not enjoy people who have the ability to detest false dichotomies. I would know, I live here. Yellow journalism is the new subject beginner in our language these days.

How would RCRN fare in the combination with Climates of Tamriel? Can I still use Realistic nights? My only concern is compatibility, and I think Supreme storms and Expanded Snow Systems are not compatible with RCRN... I ask for realistic nights, because we need to use the legacy setting for your mod.

Nevermind, I found out what was going on, I needed to enable bUseDeferredShadows in the skyrimprefs.ini file(for MO Users, this is in the profile folder inside the Mod Organizer folder). In any case, I downloaded your extended weathers addon for your enb. So let me get this straight, I can use Climates of Tamriel and Pure Weathers, and I don't need Supreme and volumetric fog, or it's morning fog addon, or the Weather patch anymore??? Second question, I assume that when we install vividian enb that if we're going to run Pure Weathers AND Climates of Tamriel at the same time, I need to enable the "YES! I use Pure Weathers" option in the second page in the install window.

Ok Mangaclub, I did all of that unfortunately to no avail. Instead, I've decided to reinstall Climates of Tamriel + supreme storms + expanded snow systems + weather patch. My skies are still a little bright but not as much as before(also, I found out that snow was now showing up in the picture, and it was supposed to, and it did it when I disabled both, and now it does with my new setup again). Here are my pictures, I've taken multiple shots, it seems the clouds are really reflecting a lot of light and they are the culprit: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BzwPfjaHaoDHc3Z1TlItZ2lkT2s&usp=sharing (I am terribly sorry to any potential reader in advance if you are having similar issues and did not expect me to switch my setup instead) And here is my new load order, although, can you help me in suggesting which esps get merged? Because I'm running over the 255 limit, haha(and I suspect it's mostly patch esps, not unique mods that have bloated my load order): Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm EFFCore.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp JSwords.esm SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm WinterholdDestruction.esm SkyMoMod.esm ORS_SolitudeGate.esm ORS_MorthalPain.esm RE_RealEstate_Core.esp HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp MoreBrains.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp DSerULG.esp Dr_BandolierDG.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ETaC - Complete.esp ELFX - Dawnguard.esp EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp HitStop.esp AOS.esp ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 3DNPC.esp 3DNPCEFF.esp ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp Epic Music Overhaul.esp UIExtensions.esp Exhaustion.esp JSwords_Load_Screens.esp PumpingIron.esp Immersive detection of NPC.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp CombatDramaOverhaul.esp ImportantInformationOverhaul.esp Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp RaceMenu.esp SOTAntiCTD.esp WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp Monster Wars.esp ImmersiveSpells.esp SkyUI.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp Vividian - AllinOne Presets.esp NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp Helgen Reborn.esp ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp RealisticNights.esp RealisticNightsDG.esp RealisticNightsDB.esp PerkusMaximus_Master.esp Rebirth Monster.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR IW Patch.esp PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp HighElfSkinTones.esp PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp SkyTEST Integration Patches.esp Supreme Fog.esp Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp TKDodge.esp Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - ESS + SS.esp CoT-WeatherPatch.esp AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ESS Patch for CoT DG Patch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_ESS.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp AOS2_SupremeStorms_CoT Patch.esp WetandCold.esp AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp Warmer Magic Lights v2 - Big.esp WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp Unique Uniques.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp AOS2_EBT Patch.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp getSnowy.esp lanterns.esp winterhold_improvements.esp WI_CWI_ELFX_Patch.esp CWIWCIPatch.esp ShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp OBIS.esp City of Dawnstar.esp Improved Artifacts - Complete Collection.esp AOS2_WAF Patch.esp OBISDB.esp Civil War Overhaul.esp USKP_NPCoverhaul_Patch.esp OMageReplacerPack.esp ETaC - Complete EEO Patch.esp Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp GardensOfWhiterun.esp FireAndIceOverhaul.esp UltimateDragons.esp AOS2_FIO Patch.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch.esp SOT_SIC_ROE.esp Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp SOT_PM.esp SOT_TEST.esp SOT_MM_ROE.esp SOT_USKP.esp Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp OBISDB-FaceMasksFix.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp WATER.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp RND_RWS-Patch.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp WATER DG.esp Immersive Whiterun.esp BetterCitiesWhiterun.esp Immersive Whiterun EEO Patch.esp RE_RealEstate.esp Immersive Solstheim.esp Immersive Solstheim EEO Patch.esp Inns and Taverns.esp CityForestV2_6.esp ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp WetandCold - Holidays.esp ETaC - Complete STO Patch.esp ETaC - Complete WC Holidays Patch.esp City Forest and Landscape V2 trees whiterun light fix.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Pre PaMa Improved Artifacts.esp WATER DB Waves.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp EFFDialogue.esp Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp TheFrontier.esp Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins for USKP.esp Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp DragonmournInn.esp Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp Cloaks.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp Run For Your Lives.esp ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp TheDomain.esp AdalMatar.esp Populated Forts Towers Places.esp ImmersiveStables.esp ETaC - Complete Im. Stables Patch.esp ETaC - Complete Taverns Patch.esp Atlas Legendary.esp PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp wizDynamicThings.esp Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp DF127CaranthirTowerMod.esp CWINPCOpulentApachii.esp OpulentMageUSKPReplacerPatch.esp FGT.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp BandolierForNPC IA Cloaks WIC Dawnguard Patch.esp BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp OBISCloaks&IA7.esp PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Bandolier.esp BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Bandolier DG.esp CWICaranthirTowerPatch.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Frostfall.esp PerMa_Survivalism.esp Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp Sleeping Innkeepers.esp ETaC - Complete SI Patch.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Morning Fogs.esp WhiterunInEnhanced.esp FNISspells.esp Bandit Patrols.esp ETaC - Complete ORS Patch.esp Cloaks - USKP Patch.esp Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp RND_AnimalLoot.esp WATER Plants.esp manny Lantern Caretakers.esp ETaC - Complete RE Patch.esp Hunterborn.esp Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp Extended Encounters.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp BorderSense.esp ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp Imaginator BETA.esp Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp Wind Destruction.esp Duel - Combat Realism.esp UltimateCombat.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp WATER - Sir Crabalot Returns.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp ASIS-Dependency.esp ASIS.esp PatchusMaximus.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

Ahh, you're the creator of Vividian, how nice! ^_^ Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm EFFCore.esm ApachiiHair.esm JSwords.esm SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm WinterholdDestruction.esm SkyMoMod.esm ORS_SolitudeGate.esm ORS_MorthalPain.esm RE_RealEstate_Core.esp HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp DSerULG.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp ETaC - Complete.esp EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp Dr_BandolierDG.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp HitStop.esp ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 3DNPC.esp 3DNPCEFF.esp Epic Music Overhaul.esp UIExtensions.esp Exhaustion.esp JSwords_Load_Screens.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp CombatDramaOverhaul.esp Immersive NPC in the dark.esp ShootingStars.esp Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp Helgen Reborn.esp Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp RaceMenu.esp SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp PumpingIron.esp SkyUI.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp TakeNotes.esp WetandCold.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp Monster Wars.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Rebirth Monster.esp ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp HighElfSkinTones.esp Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp SkyTEST Integration Patches.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp WATER.esp RND_RWS-Patch.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp PerkusMaximus_Master.esp PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp getSnowy.esp lanterns.esp winterhold_improvements.esp rcrnShaders.esp Duel - Combat Realism.esp RCRNdgdb.esp RCRNvolumetric.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Vividian - AllinOne Presets.esp ELFX - Dawnguard.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp WATER DG.esp ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp Vividian - RCRN Weather patch.esp RealisticNights.esp Supreme Fog.esp RealisticNightsDG.esp RealisticNightsDB.esp WI_CWI_ELFX_Patch.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp ShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp SoS - The Wilds-PatchRCRN.esp OBIS.esp OBISDB.esp Civil War Overhaul.esp Bring Out Your Dead.esp FireAndIceOverhaul.esp UltimateDragons.esp Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp GardensOfWhiterun.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR IW BoYD Patch.esp WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp Unique Uniques.esp OBISDB-FaceMasksFix.esp OMageReplacerPack.esp SoS - The Dungeons.esp ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp Immersive Whiterun.esp BetterCitiesWhiterun.esp Immersive Whiterun EEO Patch.esp RE_RealEstate.esp Immersive Solstheim.esp Immersive Solstheim EEO Patch.esp Inns and Taverns.esp City Forest and Landscape V2 trees whiterun light fix.esp CityForestV2_6.esp ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp WetandCold - Holidays.esp ETaC - Complete STO Patch.esp ETaC - Complete WC Holidays Patch.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp WATER DB Waves.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp EFFDialogue.esp TheFrontier.esp Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins for USKP.esp Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp DragonmournInn.esp Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp Cloaks.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp Run For Your Lives.esp ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp TheDomain.esp AdalMatar.esp Populated Forts Towers Places.esp ImmersiveStables.esp ETaC - Complete Im. Stables Patch.esp ETaC - Complete Taverns Patch.esp Atlas Legendary.esp wizDynamicThings.esp PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp UltimateCombat.esp Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp DF127CaranthirTowerMod.esp FGT.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp BandolierForNPC IA Cloaks WIC Dawnguard Patch.esp BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Bandolier.esp BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Bandolier DG.esp CWINPCOpulentApachii.esp CWICaranthirTowerPatch.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp PerMa_Survivalism.esp PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Frostfall.esp Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Morning Fogs.esp WhiterunInEnhanced.esp FNISspells.esp Bandit Patrols.esp ETaC - Complete ORS Patch.esp Cloaks - USKP Patch.esp Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRCRN.esp RND_AnimalLoot.esp Sleeping Innkeepers.esp ETaC Complete - BOYD NPC Fix.esp ETaC - Complete EEO Patch.esp ETaC - Complete SI Patch.esp WATER Plants.esp manny Lantern Caretakers.esp ETaC - Complete RE Patch.esp Hunterborn.esp Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp Extended Encounters.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.esp BorderSense.esp ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp WATER - Sir Crabalot Returns.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp ASIS-Dependency.esp ASIS.esp PatchusMaximus.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

Hi guys, I have been having this issue where the sky is just blindingly bright. I don't know what I did in the past but it resolved it albeit I had a bit of other oddities going around so maybe I didn't really fix it, but I had to reinstall both, and now I'm back with this issue in the image below: http://i.imgur.com/rvjQSfC.jpg However, things are different when I decide to look up, directly at the sky: http://i.imgur.com/yfcfzyv.jpg So I'm not really sure what to do at this point. I imagine whatever intensity settings are different for when I look up than when I look straight into the horizon, but I've tried fiddling with the enbseries file to no avail(perhaps they weren't saved, I was editing them ingame). I should also mention that I opted for the cinematic glare for light sources with vividian enb.

Nevermind, it was an issue with Bring out your dead mod.

I have Immerisve winterhold, winterhold college improved, and the winterhold mod that improves the ruin(not jk's). I was doing the quest, or at least, tried. First issue I ran into was Toldfir and the guys not going to the ruin. After practice was done, they all would start walking in unison for a second, then stop, in unison, and would never leave the main hall. I had to spawn toldfir in front of sarrthal for the quest to start, but in doing so I ran into a second toldfir, probably wasn't the best solution, so I disabled one of them, the one that wasn't advancing into the ruin and just staying there. Then the cage door that's supposed to show up as a trap when you get the amulet? Yeah, that was closed before I even got there, and when I picked it up it opened. It's supposed to be the reverse, opened first ,then close, especially by the way toldfir reacts. And then finally, when we got to the part of Jyrik, well, he wasn't even really treated as an npc, in that, nothing I did would hit him, he was like thin air, thin air that one hit ko's me. I tried disabling jyrik, but Toldfir would not advance to the eye of magnus, he would just keep following me. I assumed it was just something really unfortunate with my save, so I yet again started a new game, and well, when I went to finish the ward practice with toldfir, yet again they will not move to saarthal, even if I waited, so I just assumed the same order of events was going to happen again. Yes, I know that may not be the case, but I'd like to know if anyone has any advice at this point, so that I don't put too much time in what might be an effort in vain. I do have a hefty mod list, and I also have sands of time which affects dungeons: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm EFFCore.esm ApachiiHair.esm JSwords.esm SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm WinterholdDestruction.esm SkyMoMod.esm ORS_SolitudeGate.esm ORS_MorthalPain.esm RE_RealEstate_Core.esp HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp DSerULG.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp ETaC - Complete.esp EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp Dr_BandolierDG.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp HitStop.esp ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 3DNPC.esp 3DNPCEFF.esp Epic Music Overhaul.esp UIExtensions.esp Exhaustion.esp JSwords_Load_Screens.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp CombatDramaOverhaul.esp Immersive NPC in the dark.esp ShootingStars.esp Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp Helgen Reborn.esp Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp RaceMenu.esp SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp PumpingIron.esp SkyUI.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp TakeNotes.esp WetandCold.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp Monster Wars.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Rebirth Monster.esp ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp HighElfSkinTones.esp Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp SkyTEST Integration Patches.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp WATER.esp RND_RWS-Patch.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp PerkusMaximus_Master.esp PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp getSnowy.esp lanterns.esp winterhold_improvements.esp rcrnShaders.esp Duel - Combat Realism.esp RCRNdgdb.esp RCRNvolumetric.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Vividian - AllinOne Presets.esp ELFX - Dawnguard.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp WATER DG.esp ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp Vividian - RCRN Weather patch.esp RealisticNights.esp Supreme Fog.esp RealisticNightsDG.esp RealisticNightsDB.esp WI_CWI_ELFX_Patch.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp ShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp SoS - The Wilds-PatchRCRN.esp OBIS.esp OBISDB.esp Civil War Overhaul.esp Bring Out Your Dead.esp FireAndIceOverhaul.esp UltimateDragons.esp Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp GardensOfWhiterun.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR IW BoYD Patch.esp WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp Unique Uniques.esp OBISDB-FaceMasksFix.esp OMageReplacerPack.esp SoS - The Dungeons.esp ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp Immersive Whiterun.esp BetterCitiesWhiterun.esp Immersive Whiterun EEO Patch.esp RE_RealEstate.esp Immersive Solstheim.esp Immersive Solstheim EEO Patch.esp Inns and Taverns.esp City Forest and Landscape V2 trees whiterun light fix.esp CityForestV2_6.esp ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp WetandCold - Holidays.esp ETaC - Complete STO Patch.esp ETaC - Complete WC Holidays Patch.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp WATER DB Waves.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp EFFDialogue.esp TheFrontier.esp Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins for USKP.esp Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp DragonmournInn.esp Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp Cloaks.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp Run For Your Lives.esp ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp TheDomain.esp AdalMatar.esp Populated Forts Towers Places.esp ImmersiveStables.esp ETaC - Complete Im. Stables Patch.esp ETaC - Complete Taverns Patch.esp Atlas Legendary.esp wizDynamicThings.esp PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp UltimateCombat.esp Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp DF127CaranthirTowerMod.esp FGT.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp BandolierForNPC IA Cloaks WIC Dawnguard Patch.esp BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Bandolier.esp BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Bandolier DG.esp CWINPCOpulentApachii.esp CWICaranthirTowerPatch.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp PerMa_Survivalism.esp PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Frostfall.esp Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Morning Fogs.esp WhiterunInEnhanced.esp FNISspells.esp Bandit Patrols.esp ETaC - Complete ORS Patch.esp Cloaks - USKP Patch.esp Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRCRN.esp RND_AnimalLoot.esp Sleeping Innkeepers.esp ETaC Complete - BOYD NPC Fix.esp ETaC - Complete EEO Patch.esp ETaC - Complete SI Patch.esp WATER Plants.esp manny Lantern Caretakers.esp ETaC - Complete RE Patch.esp Hunterborn.esp Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp Extended Encounters.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.esp BorderSense.esp ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp WATER - Sir Crabalot Returns.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp ASIS-Dependency.esp ASIS.esp PatchusMaximus.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

Was it fine that I waited at Dragonsreach? In any case, I saw way more novice mages and mages my level. I think it was ASIS freaking out and spawning high level npcs from across all the mods. The worst I saw was Battle Sorcerers and Mage Marauders, but they were this time able to be killed, and I was on expert.(although this is me on god mode btw, I mean I was able to reasonably take their health down, they weren't "tanky"). I still encountered some sorcerers around barleydark farms, but I can't remember if they were particularly hard to kill or not, as that was the first place I checked and did not go into god mode. I think their health was also not super tanky this time around. I'm going to make another bashed patch and rerun ASIS. Then wait 10 days again inside Dragonsreach. If I reran ASIS, loaded into the save where I already waited 10 days, would I have needed to wait 10 more days due to the repatching of the Bashed Patch and ASIS? I'm rerunning ASIS because Wrye Bash is telling me that my load order is different. EDIT: I ran into a tanky Bandit Marauder Mage at level 1 again, but not in the designated area anymore. Actually, I keep encountering these people not inside, but around Fort Greymoor and Barleydark farms. However, I also finally run into "novce" mages, and the novice mages did exist within Fort Greymoor, just outside was waiting a tanky bandit marauder mage. And in Barleydark farms I encountered sorcerers. Not sure if that's from your mod or anything. In the place near Whiterun though, the road going to the east, I haven't encountered any of these sorts.

Ah, I was about to have a heart attack. So I can visit these places, just wait 10 ingame days and they will not spawn? I tested a save even without ASIS btw, but I wasn't sure if it was a save that had ASIS on previously or not, because I couldn't make an entirely new save. All I know is I was thinking ASIS had something to do with it, and it was one of the first things I deactivated(had to anyway, otherwise it would have been missing a master and then ctd at launch).

It's not the "novice mages" or regular mages that are fault here, just for clarity's sake. It's the mages that are specifically tanky and do the one shot killing even on adept. There are probably higher level mages spawning earlier than they are supposed to be, depending on how the system all works out. With that being said, are you familiar with a "Bandit Marauder Mage"?? That npc is also the same, tanky, impossible to kill at lower levels, in fact even on god mode they just heal so it takes a multitude of npcs to take down one of them.

In particular, I seem to be running into npcs called "Battle Sorcerer". I'll post my entire mod list here: But in particular, the Bandit Marauder Mage and Bandit Sorcerer are really the ones that are impossible to take down. They throw fireballs and have some sort of armored spell around them, as they are also tanky, and I'm meeting them at level 1! 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Ah great! That's just it though, they are called Spell Masters. I found others that are called Death priests, and several variants of warlocks, for example, Fire warlocks. I'm going to try and pull up more names here, but are any of the above from your mod? Love the havoc btw, just hope I can get the mage thing sorted out. EDIT: Also Banned Ice Mage, Bandit Marauder Mage.

I have a big mod list, but I suspect these three are the responsible mods that are causing my issue(or maybe this has nothing to do with Apocalypse, and that a vanilla spell has become op, or that OBIS is spawning too many op bandits.. Basically, whenever I run into mages, it's an almost inevitable death because all they have to do is hurl fireballs that explode on impact, and I'm dead in an instant, even on adept. It just seems far too ridiculous, and nevermind trying to dodge that. Either because additional mages hurling fireballs, or you have the frost spells. Is there any way to keep this combination, but just not have this madness? I'm barely at level 8 and I'm seeing what are called "Master Spellcaster" or something to that effect. I do have immersive patrols and warzones, but these seemingly high level mages show up even without running into a warzone. EDIT: I should include that I have Enhanced enemy ai mod. EDIT 2: They're called "Spell Masters" and I know they're from OBIS because they have the "Book of Bandits" on them. They're everywhere even at such a low level as level 8.