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PM me when you get the chance and we can go over some things.

I'll be starting New Vegas after running out of things to do in Skyrim but want to mod it with the best texture packs to make the most out of my system. Unfortunately looking through all of the mods available it's a bit overwhelming for someone who hasn't been in tune with the mods from the beginning. Any help would be appreciated.

Do both monitors support the same resolution? I'd try deleting all the ini files and letting the launcher recreate them while reassess your system. If you feel comfortable doing so you can also delete the ones in the main skyrim folder and have Steam redownload/recreate them by verifying the games cache integrity.

When uninstalling the game did you also remove the ../My Games/Skyrim/ folder and made sure that the game folder itself was also completely gone? If not try deleting the .ini files found in this folder and try launching the game. Be sure to back up this folder before doing so. What are your PC specs and what mods are you trying to run if any? I'm glad to see a couple of you were able to fix/halt your crashes. :thumbsup:

Have you tried checking your games files integrity with Steam?

Upgrade Glowing Ore Veins 300 to the latest version and see if the problem persists.

Though rare with reference clocked cards some come with too low a voltage for their clocks from the manufacturer so that is why I had recommended to put it up a notch or two. I personally I have to increase the voltage on my cards to 1.038 to run at the factory overclocked settings. Glad you worked it out though and hopefully the nine bless your game with hours upon hours of play. Pass the Skooma.

Well well, The sodium level rises with none other than salt grain number #1. Welcome back to the barrel. I'm flattered, :wub: Stay tuned for more "Propaganda".

you logout and "jay0510" logs in again i wonder if you agree with yourself in the next reply ;) just pick another thread to derail,this ones for grown ups. :rolleyes: You seem really irritated and salty by the fact my posts have helped people going as far as saying they are me. :laugh: I ain't going no where salty. Stay tuned for my next post.

Good choices all around. Sure you don't want to wait for the 7970s though? Either way this is going to be a monster. :ohmy:

My advice has helped people. Meanwhile your stories haven't entertained a soul. One doesn't need to glance at system specs before suggesting stress tests be ran to cancel out possibilities. If you were really in touch with the problem like you think you are as the previous post stated why recommend Nvidia cards. There are plenty of users with them experiencing the same thing. Should they switch over to AMD cards? At this point of the game I don't even bother picking up salt piles like yourself anymore. I just leave them things in the barrel.

I'll reply to my own post. I was right, the HIS 6870 IceQ X 1GB GDDR5 video card causes the game to crash and my my XFX Radeon HD 4870 ATI-Design 1GB GDDR5 plays Skyrim just fine. I was able to play with the HIS card for about 10-15 minutes and then it did the infamous black screen crash with Skyrim only. There must be something about the faster cards causing the issue since the older cards work fine. Could it be DX11 since the HIS card is DX11 compatible and the XFX card is only 10.1? That is where I would look if I were a developer for Bethesda, but there could be something else. Most likely a driver issue. The game is DX9 so it really wouldn't matter if the 6870 supports DX11 while the 4870 doesn't. Have you tried increasing the voltage a notch or two on the 6870 with MSI Afterburner? Try that and see if it alleviates the crashes. If not I'd use drive sweeper to completely uninstall the video drivers and would install the latest beta drivers. I'd also delete the ini files located in ../my games/skyrim/ folder before starting up the game. your not actually reading the posts are you ? everytime i see you reply all you do is ignore the fact its the game thats at fault and keep repeating stupid advice dealt with many pages ago. what been found to universaly actually fix the black screens is to downgrade the graphics card or go nvidia. some have limited success that doesnt last long with tweaking out whatever the game called functions that cause the black screen from the ini files. theres enough of this misdirection and troll posting at bethesda,did you really have to come here and start the same garbage ? you never get to see these people wasting thier time following your daft responses,so what kind of thrills are to be had doing it here also ? :hurr: Apologies for not reading through the 120+ pages this thread consists of you salt pile :rolleyes: . I'd know the time it takes since it took me about 10-14 hours trying to fix the issue myself assuming the game was at fault as this thread is so heavily for. If I'd have just stuck with this consensus here I wouldn't be enjoying my game as I am now. From the sound of it a lot of you who have given up on the problem that lay the fault 100% on the game are real salty and sensitive when someone comes around mentioning they've fixed the problem and that it was due to hardware related issues. People here go up in arms. I am in no way trolling, keep your internet geek talk to yourself. I am taking the time out of my day to give advice which many of you salty skeevers have stopped giving. SO WHAT I have people stress test their machines and have people look at hardware being at fault before placing it on the game. If they successfully pass the tests then they can rule out instability, know their PC's are stable, and then blame the fault closer to software related problems. I agree that this game has issues, but coming here to fix the problems one would immediately assume their PC configurations are not at fault and the game 100% is which in a lot of cases it isn't. Just so you know downgrading a card is a hardware fix. ;)

I'll reply to my own post. I was right, the HIS 6870 IceQ X 1GB GDDR5 video card causes the game to crash and my my XFX Radeon HD 4870 ATI-Design 1GB GDDR5 plays Skyrim just fine. I was able to play with the HIS card for about 10-15 minutes and then it did the infamous black screen crash with Skyrim only. There must be something about the faster cards causing the issue since the older cards work fine. Could it be DX11 since the HIS card is DX11 compatible and the XFX card is only 10.1? That is where I would look if I were a developer for Bethesda, but there could be something else. Most likely a driver issue. The game is DX9 so it really wouldn't matter if the 6870 supports DX11 while the 4870 doesn't. Have you tried increasing the voltage a notch or two on the 6870 with MSI Afterburner? Try that and see if it alleviates the crashes. If not I'd use drive sweeper to completely uninstall the video drivers and would install the latest beta drivers. I'd also delete the ini files located in ../my games/skyrim/ folder before starting up the game.

Then drivers or similar are to blame. Either way I'm done, enjoy your game. I know I am.

Bottom line is a game doesn't have the access to completely crash an entire PC. Most it can do is CTD on a stable system. Either way, I'm done here. Sad thing is most people with this problem are waiting for a fix that is never going to come. :( If anyone with this problem needs help testing their system my PM box is open, I shall commence gaming now.

How would that explain crashes that happen on fresh install of Skyrim with no game saves. I had completely re-installed Skyrim, removed all my old game saves, started a new game and still crashed within 15 minutes. Unless someone has ran memtest86+, prime95, linx, 3dmark11, heaven dx11 benchmarks/stress tests successfully then I'm pretty positive at this point after fixing my own issue that most of the users here are experiencing these system shutdowns due to system instability.

Like stated above yes you can. Just delete the affected folders and under Steam right click on Skyrim and find the tab that has "Verify the integrity of game cache" and it will validate all of the game files and replace anything that is missing/overwritten automatically.

I just finnished the tests out of curiosity and all is well, only the last two, the physics and he combined tests weren´t as smooth as the first ones but the score are all above avarage the graphic card is more than good XD to me it´s just the skyrim´s patch 1.3.10 that causes the crash, I could play skyrim for a day with no single crash and after this patch bam crashes every 10 minutes with or without mods. You seem pretty set on it being 1.3.10 causing the issues and I'll respect that. I myself though re-installed the game and downgraded it to 1.2 and started a new game and was still experiencing crashes. If you're still up for it try Heaven DX11 Benchmark on max settings as well. 3DMark11 on 720P couldn't crash my system. It wasn't till I set it to 1080 which you can only do in paid version that I experienced crashing. It's normal for the last 2 tests to be a bit choppy, at that point the benchmark is stressing just your cpu and a combined test for cpu/gpu. Also, just cause you pass one run doesn't mean you are out of the woods. Try several. I could play Skyrim at times for hours before a crash and then at times 10 minutes at a time before one. Same applies with stress tests. If you'd like I'd be willing to test your game save on my system. PM me if you'd like.

I played a bunch of games as well and thought my system was 100% stable. Including New Vegas with a large amount of hi res texture mods and never got a crash. I was surprised to see my system crash in similar fashion to Skyrim when trying to play Dead Island. If I were you just to rule out the possibilities I'd try some of the benchmark/stress test utilities I've mentioned. Before this no one could have told me that my system was unstable, :(

I hate to ask but have you tried running 3DMark11 or Heaven DX11 Benchmark ? If you can pass these on max settings repeatedly with no problem then you can pretty much rule out your GPU. For CPU I'd recommend you run blend tests with Prime95 if you haven't done so already to rule out Ram and CPU.

I posted this over at Bethesda Forums but figured I'd post it here as well. As much of a PC Enthusiast that I am I hate to have to admit in my particular case my crashes might not be entirely or if it all Skyrim's fault. After being exhausted with trying to get Skyrim to work I called it quits and thought I'd start another game while waiting for a solution from the community. I load up Dead Island for the first time to try it out and what do you know, it crashes my entire system just like Skyrim after the character select screen :ohmy: . At this moment that little spark in me to get things working lights back up. My initial thought was that it may be DX9 games being that both Skyrim and Dead Island are dx9c. I download a demo version of 3dmark06, a directx9 benchmark/stresstest. I run the tests which my system ran through stable though mind you the demo version only lets you run the test at 720p which I figured may not be enough stress on the system. I then load up 3DMark11, a DX11 benchmark/stress test utility, which I have the full version to. I select 1080p and run the test, I can't even get pass the first test. (I ran these tests months ago to test my systems capabilities with no problems) I'm beginning to think either one of my 580s has a problem, or something may be wrong with my PSU. Maybe something got loose within my case. At the moment I am working on zeroing in on the problem and will update everyone on what I find. I suggest that everyone here if not done so already run 3DMark11 (unfortunately demo version only stress tests at 720p) and see if your systems are capable of going through the tests without problems. If you own Metro 2033 it comes with a pretty good stress test that can be used as well. I could have sworn my system was 100% stable from running memtest86+ for 12 hours, Linx and Prime95 for a couple hours, and some other lighter games (Haven't played BF3 ever since Skyrim was released). I have definitely been humbled. Update 1: After running 3DMark11 with SLI off for each card successfully I was pretty much left with my instability being due to SLI mode. I uninstalled my drivers, downgraded MSI AB 2.2.0 Beta 9 to MSI AB 2.1.0 Stable. Unplugged/Replugged PSU connectors going to video cards and mobo and now I was able to pass 3DMark11 with no problems. Now I'm off to test Skyrim. :ohdear: Update 2: So I have been playing since I last updated this post and have been crash free. Hopefully this continues tomorrow. I highly recommend everyone really stress test their systems if not done so already with either 3DMark11, Metro 2033 Bechmark Utility, Heaven DX11 Benchmark.

I believe that Default ini is important. It is used when Skyrim needs to recreate your game ini from scratch. Without it if you manage to screw up your game ini you're sunk. Rabbit Not really, you can have Steam verify the integrity of the game and once it notices it missing it will redownload it. Did it a couple times today trying to figure out the cause of my crashes.

I also ran across this today when following the instructions for reverting back to ugridstoload=5. It turns out that after the latest patch those instructions aren't valid anymore. Another user from this forum figured it out http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/490666-patch-13-vs-ugridstoload/page__p__4013601#entry4013601 and some more discussion about the issue here, http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2278311 http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=26929854&postcount=31

So after fiddling around with my system for hours now I think I've finally solved the crashes I was having. Hopefully this works for those who would like to try it. What I did was the following steps, Made a backup of ../Steam/steamapps/skyrim/mods folder for later use Made a backup of ../My Games/Skyrim/saves Uninstalled FXAA Project Injector Uninstalled Skyrim via the Control Panel. Made sure ../Steam/steamapps/skyrim was completely gone. Downloaded CCleaner Ran a Registry Analyze/Clean with CCleaner. Ran it several times to be sure no more issues were found. Reloaded Skyrim via Steam Moved backup of saves folder back into ../My Games/Skyrim/ Loaded and Gamed So I've been playing for about 2 hours now, fighting everything from Dragons to Falmer and Spiders in Dungeons in areas were I was sure to crash before I tried the fore mentioned steps. Considering I couldn't go 25 minutes without a complete system crash before this I think I've made some progress. Maybe it hasn't fixed nothing though and I'm just gaming on luck, we'll see. If anyone would like to try this let us know how it goes, and do it at your own risk! I feel my particular crashes had to do with the latest patch 1.3.10, can't say for sure but I never had a single crash before this patch. Edit: Reloaded all of my mods and got a crash again. I call it quits. :wallbash:

The community would still need to have figured out what is causing the crashes before it could be fixed would they not? Or would the creation kit allow further investigation than available now?