Hi Folks I need some help. Shimmermist Cave is a Cave on a small mountain NorthEast of Whiterun. Most notable is the Shrine of Talos that you would be given a Quest from the Queen to return her dead husbands horn to the shrine. The problem is anytime I get near the area I immediatly CTD (crash to desktop). I am unable to locate the rhyme, reason, or cause. I have included my load order and LOOT Report I am not sure if it is one the Records or Deleted NavMeshs and I don't know how to fix them. Can anyone please help. Skyrim.esmCRC: C665FD56Update.esmCRC: E5B67BDAC.Location, Delev, Invent, RelevWarning: Contains 92 ITM records and 3 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.Unofficial Skyrim Patch.espCRC: 94947FF0Version: 2.1.0C.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, StatsDawnguard.esmCRC: BD72CCF3C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, SoundWarning: Contains 619 ITM records, 82 UDR records and 57 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.HearthFires.esmCRC: AF82CE6AC.Location, Graphics, InventWarning: Contains 184 ITM records, 11 UDR records and 5 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.Dragonborn.esmCRC: A9F83BFFC.Location, Graphics, Invent, NamesWarning: Contains 61 ITM records, 8 UDR records and 1 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.ApachiiHair.esmCRC: 783F7167Version: 1.4ApachiiHairMales.esmCRC: 60EC6077Version: 1.2CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esmCRC: B3BD8B51Note: Obsolete. Update to latest version.Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.espCRC: B854A556Version: 1.1.4C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, StatsUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espCRC: ED07B97BVersion: 1.0.3C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, Graphics, Invent, Names, SoundHighResTexturePack01.espCRC: D596F02AHighResTexturePack02.espCRC: D596F02AHighResTexturePack03.espCRC: D596F02AUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espCRC: C9AEECECVersion: 1.0.0C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, StatsUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espCRC: CF181FCAVersion: 1.0.0AMatterOfTime.espCRC: 512CD10CVersion: 2.00bladesfactionfix.espCRC: B487451DWarning: Contains 2 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.mjollfacelift-blondehair.espCRC: B725C232Version: 4Note: Obsolete. Update to latest version, mjollfacelift-v4-1 esp.BarenziahQuestMarkers.espCRC: 9B51E375360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.espCRC: B2AF9437Version: 205.25.AncientTonguesGreatSword.espCRC: FD7EE317SkyUI.espCRC: 9330CAF7Version: 4.1malukahmainmenu.espCRC: 4D974883Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.espCRC: F5202C5crimson dragon armor.espCRC: FE934D6CvDynamicDifficulty.espCRC: 8CDB16D5Version: 1.42MBWS_DLC_Herines_RG.espCRC: 552E03A8diamondarchery.espCRC: FDF8136FAncientTonguesSword.espCRC: 79573950dD - Enhanced Blood Main.espCRC: 7AFD4E3EdD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espCRC: FE5C3763AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.espCRC: 6E6C7E2Dlightweight potions and poisons.espCRC: C641449FLock Overhaul.espCRC: 3FB2EDFAancient auriel's bow.espCRC: 89EA517Flockpicksweetspot.espCRC: 5D24BD27Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.espCRC: 35F9C306Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.espCRC: 95CC39A1Version: 4.0.7Note: The order of 'Major City Interiors.esp' and 'Dawnguard Interiors.esp' is interchangeable. Here is a note from RLO author, Daemonui, about the differences you will see.ReAnimate.espCRC: 4838E8D4redeaglesword.espCRC: B9E1D7E6runesword stormbringer.espCRC: BC425FADseraticarmor.espCRC: CA8B6980unreadbooksglow.espCRC: CAAC2A07Version: 2.2.0sign.espCRC: 4B1C91F3reduced distance npc greetings.espCRC: 24658104Version: 50Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.espCRC: 5CB2DB8CNote: Does not contain unexpected (or out of order) records or TESVSnip truncation issues as found in other mods by various authors. However, a newer esp fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here that may provide added stability. Compatibility PatchNote: Use Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp with Complete Crafting Overhaul.smithingupgrades.espCRC: 3ABF1F28The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espCRC: 21A635C6Version: 1.8Warning: Contains 1 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.grayseraticheavyarmor.espCRC: F897C2BCWeapons and Armor fixes.espCRC: D27D2F2Error: Delete. Already included in Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp.Note: For 'WAF+SPO+CCO' users. No conflicts with 'Smithing Perks Overhaul' and 'Complete Crafting Overhaul'.HelmsWithCirclets.espCRC: 8242B8D5hoodlessmaskiscirclet.espCRC: 3FF7A078Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espCRC: 44BAC29FVersion: 1.6Delev, Names, Relev, StatsComplete Crafting Overhaul.espCRC: CBB1C36BNote: Does not contain unexpected (or out of order) records or TESVSnip truncation issues as found in other mods by various authors. However, a newer esp fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here that may provide added stability. Compatibility PatchNote: Will conflict with mods that modify existing recipes.improvedskillbooks.espCRC: B40F1E18realistic lighting.espCRC: C0081686FS_UltimateAssortment.espCRC: DDBEC894litelongertorches.espCRC: 204F4321torchradius.espCRC: 26ED1A9lanterns of skyrim - all in one.espCRC: 5692F896Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.espCRC: BAEE8C7Edark brotherhood elite ring.espCRC: 99F11A0BMystical Illumination.espCRC: F4142E64Civil War Repairs.espCRC: 28840D9restoration_spell resurrect.espCRC: C7CAE85DRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.espCRC: C8F99939Realistic Lighting Patcher.espCRC: E3A4C59FRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers - Brighter Nights.espCRC: 14B05302RLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.espCRC: 69934CBBVersion: 4.0.7ring_of_enchantments.espCRC: F62999F6ring_of_protection.espCRC: 4E755ABDValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.espCRC: 9F5FD0C9Warning: Original file was released before the Creation Kit (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. Compatibility Patch.Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.espCRC: 119BC97Cweir_weightlessgems.espCRC: FE4BCE9DWhiterun Repaired Plus.espCRC: 17C2C0DEWarning: Contains 15 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.voicemasterhouse.espCRC: 468F959FRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.espCRC: 984EE262Version: 4.0.7afcskriptures.espCRC: 1586D158dragonsoulstoperks.espCRC: E1421D8Fenhancedlightingforrealisticlighting.espCRC: E789334betterdawnstar.espCRC: ECF883A6bettermarkarthexterieur.espCRC: 65D6CC9DSigns_of_Skyrim.espCRC: 642A5F55br_hoodcirclets.espCRC: E534B7D6BlackSacramentDBReplacer.espCRC: EE002860Vampire_NoSunDamage_Hoods&Helmets.espCRC: E1BCC1CVersion: 1.3beautiful whiterun.espCRC: 8FD70B6Skyrim Flora Overhaul.espCRC: C1008674minemapmarkers.espCRC: 2B702068betterwinterhold.espCRC: 2FDD3872KaceAutoloot.espCRC: 3475DB40armored-horses.espCRC: 3B1B7A1EConvenient Horses.espCRC: 12C3C1F3Version: 14950Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.isilnarsil.espCRC: A43571C0Warning: Contains 17 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.follower map markers.espCRC: A02E22B8skyforgedWeapons.espCRC: B3E7318ScopedBows.espCRC: 29819265Version: 1.6_LEGENDARYportal2mod.espCRC: F0C49703Warning: Contains 5 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.joosskyrimknightlyarmory.espCRC: B359BE4Emarchanditinerant.espCRC: FED2C653BlackSacramentArmor.espCRC: D43D432Bcalyps-razorarmor.espCRC: DDBB52EEprivate_nokillblur_test.espCRC: 7796719Ddragonboneweaponspack01_v01.00.espCRC: 9980D558WorldMapInFull3D.espCRC: 78DD5B64Note: If you are using other map mods, e.g. Quality World Map with roads, change uLockedTerrainLOD to 32 to display them (only indoors)This images shows the LOD area that I am able to minimize to with the sliders, Blue indicates CTD at max LOD's while Red indicates the CTD and the Lowest Possible LOD settings. http://postimg.org/image/kkkj2y79z/ http://s7.postimg.org/kkkj2y79z/skyrim_LODrings.jpg