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In response to post #24738304. #24738404, #24738464, #24738479, #24738524, #24738604, #24738659, #24738679, #24738694, #24738739, #24738779, #24738799, #24738804, #24738919, #24738944, #24738974, #24739104, #24739184, #24739199, #24739204, #24739289, #24739329, #24739359, #24739394, #24739409, #24739474, #24739514, #24739544, #24739564, #24739609, #24739619, #24739639, #24739689, #24739759, #24739784, #24739884, #24739949, #24739999, #24740019, #24740029, #24740039, #24740124, #24740139, #24740174, #24740184, #24740199, #24740234, #24740349, #24740469, #24740494, #24740509, #24740569, #24740579, #24740584, #24740694, #24740734, #24740789, #24740809, #24740814, #24740834, #24740844, #24740859, #24740899, #24740939, #24740959, #24741039, #24741074, #24741079, #24741154, #24741159, #24741164, #24741289, #24741369, #24741419, #24741429, #24741444, #24741449, #24741529, #24741644, #24741674, #24741699, #24741714, #24741744, #24741754, #24741764, #24741784, #24741804, #24741884, #24741959, #24742024, #24742104, #24742119, #24742154 are all replies on the same post. I'll just repost this because it warrants repeating. No rational, sane, intelligent and critically-thinking person could justify being 'against paid mods altogether' without admitting flat-out that they believe modders don't deserve to be paid for their hard work. Dark0ne isn't among the legions of cretins coming out of the woodwork demonizing hard-working people for trying to get a little something back. Anything they do manage to make (not just considering modder's sad 25) won't even approach the level of effort and commitment many of them have put into scripting, texturing, voice acting, writing, building and rebuilding, the 3am hotfixes for impatient crybabies, and on and on their work for you goes. Yet here the nay-sayers stand screaming "I DESERVE FREE STUFF, AND I EXPECT YOU TO PRODUCE IT WITHOUT COMPLAINT". The notion that mods (many of which have development hours in the 1000+ area and smack of professional quality) are of less value than other pieces of work that nobody questions paying for, simply by virtue of them being mods, is totally and utterly asinine, and despicably disrespectful to the mod authors that produce them. Saying you're against paid mods in principle is equivalent to saying to modders "you don't deserve compensation for hours of toil for my benefit, now get back to work, and don't forget to fix that navmesh this time, that's a good boy". Modders work damn hard, and anyone saying that they don't deserve anything for that work is just slapping them in the face. That they happily and readily produce that work at personal cost to themselves, sometimes a significant one, for the same people who would tell them that they don't deserve any tangible reward for it (while still mass-consuming said work), is a testament to their character and patience, their love and appreciation for their hobby and the few people genuinely capable of appreciating it, and the value of the Nexus itself, even if it reflects poorly on users that obviously take free mods for granted. Who's really greedy, the content-creators (modders deserve the title) who want a little something for their work, or the people who think they ought to be able to enjoy that work for free? Why is this even a discussion?

In response to post #24740829. #24741339 is also a reply to the same post. My sympathies go out to any individuals or teams who were developing things under the impression that they would be getting paid. I just hope they choose to continue development regardless and release that content instead of just shelving it.

In response to post #24697914. ;_;

In response to post #24699154. #24699914, #24700424 are all replies on the same post. I love you Chesko, I really don't get to say that enough. Hang in there, despite the way the wind may be blowing, you're among friends.

In response to post #24679789. #24680359, #24680884, #24680909, #24681594, #24683019, #24683494, #24686649, #24686714, #24687229 are all replies on the same post. This is good. Yes.

In response to post #24646984. #24647104, #24647439, #24647524, #24647569, #24647954, #24648029, #24648264, #24648309, #24648414, #24648504, #24648519, #24648809, #24649619, #24650179, #24650239, #24650354, #24651039, #24651229, #24651294, #24651314, #24651324, #24651364, #24651429, #24651469, #24651679, #24651784, #24651844, #24651864, #24651949, #24652074, #24652084, #24652114, #24652274, #24652374, #24652484, #24652614, #24652634, #24652709, #24652984, #24652989, #24653374, #24654079, #24654169, #24654569, #24654739, #24654814, #24654864, #24654924, #24654954, #24655019, #24655324, #24655564, #24655599, #24655739, #24656204, #24656864, #24657599, #24657739, #24657834, #24658089, #24658219, #24658309, #24658354, #24658389, #24658469, #24658654, #24658804, #24661294, #24661744, #24661969, #24662334, #24662424, #24662559, #24662704, #24662874, #24662989, #24663029, #24663049, #24663124, #24663129, #24663169, #24663709, #24665544, #24665924, #24666139, #24666554, #24666584, #24666609, #24667494, #24667749 are all replies on the same post. Not to mention a place to whine like children.

In response to post #24645544. #24646089, #24649659, #24649709, #24651129, #24651814, #24653749, #24654389, #24662464, #24667379, #24667414, #24667519 are all replies on the same post. The people who don't do the work have absolutely no right to criticize the people who DO, be it their motivations, their reservations, their orientations, animal, vegetable, or mineral.

In response to post #24650844. #24651244, #24651614, #24652419, #24653429, #24653759, #24653984, #24654254, #24666729 are all replies on the same post. Attention gastovski and anyone else listening: No rational, sane, intelligent and critically-thinking person could justify being 'against paid mods altogether' without admitting flat-out that they believe modders don't deserve to be paid for their hard work. Dark0ne isn't among the legions of cretins coming out of the woodwork demonizing hard-working people for trying to get a little something back. Anything they do manage to make (not just considering modder's sad 25) won't even approach the level of effort and commitment many of them have put into scripting, texturing, voice acting, writing, building and rebuilding, the 3am hotfixes for impatient crybabies, and on and on their work for you goes. Yet here the nay-sayers stand screaming "I DESERVE FREE STUFF, AND I EXPECT YOU TO PRODUCE IT WITHOUT COMPLAINT". The notion that mods (many of which have development hours in the 1000+ area and smack of professional quality) are of less value than other pieces of work that nobody questions paying for, simply by virtue of them being mods, is totally and utterly asinine, and despicably disrespectful to the mod authors that produce them. Saying you're against paid mods in principle is equivalent to saying to modders "you don't deserve compensation for hours of toil for my benefit, now get back to work, and don't forget to fix that navmesh this time, that's a good boy". Modders work damn hard, and anyone saying that they don't deserve anything for that work is just slapping them in the face. That they happily and readily produce that work at personal cost to themselves, sometimes a significant one, for the same people who would tell them that they don't deserve any tangible reward for it (while still mass-consuming said work), is a testament to their character and patience, their love and appreciation for their hobby and the few people genuinely capable of appreciating it, and the value of the Nexus itself, even if it reflects poorly on users that obviously take free mods for granted.

In response to post #24638949. #24639859, #24640084 are all replies on the same post. If I wanted a mod, do you actually think I would stop to consider not trying it out because the donation thingy came on the screen? Utterly pants-on-head silly just to suggest it.

In response to post #24616159. #24616314, #24616399, #24616454, #24616704, #24616799, #24616909, #24617019, #24617144, #24617304, #24617354, #24617394, #24617519, #24618004, #24618149, #24618159, #24618169 are all replies on the same post. As I said, everyone deserves a pat on the back and some beef jerky for their effort. You guys deserve 75% of your beef jerky though, not no sad 25% Best of luck in this, I admire your optimism regarding this pushing towards quality rather than quantity, and I surely hope you're right.

In response to post #24599574. #24613394, #24613669 are all replies on the same post. 1303, suck on that

In response to post #24613709. #24613839, #24614334, #24614794 are all replies on the same post. ^ this guy has his eye on the ball, focus on improving the Nexus and don't worry so much about the goings on outside of it. I definitely would prefer some cleaning up for mod description pages, as I often find myself totally lost to the point that I have to use ctrl+f just to find keywords I can use to navigate. Changes to this would be magnificent, possibly to the extent that 'installation instructions' receive their own dedicated tab.

In response to post #24612364. #24612569, #24613129, #24613419 are all replies on the same post. You do realize that a staggering number of people (quite possibly most) have problems paying their rent, yet still manage to carve out a slice of free time for themselves to do something besides worrying about it. If these people changed around their priorities, I'd wager a healthy portion of the mods you take for granted wouldn't exist. You should never be too quick to tell hungry folks they're doing something wrong when we live in a world where there isn't enough to go around by design. As for the second point, that's the trick isn't it? That's why royalty systems had to be implemented for circumstances like that. If a paid mod utilizes systems or resources from a free mod (bless you SKSE team and FORE), royalties ought to be paid, out of simple fairness. Either that, or the paid mod should be self-contained and have no requirements besides the basegame. That's why the option (for authors of modder's resources most importantly) to put up a disclaimer for making the use of those resources by a paid mod verboten. Copyright law would make it legally actionable to defy that disclaimer.

In response to post #24611249. #24611339 is also a reply to the same post. If they do, that's their prerogative and I support them. You can't eat kudos or endorsements, as has been stated more than once on these forums. Not everyone has the luxury of being financially secure while also simultaneously having the time and energy to put into the creation of some of the brilliant content hosted gratis here for you. The Nexus supports mod authors getting more than a pat on the back as well, that's why the donation button exists. However, since the Nexus is based on the principle of offering its service freely to anyone (which is absolutely not the same as saying 'free mods all the time everywhere forever, merely that they will always be free HERE), nobody has to pay for anything, and authors can't hold out their cups or hold content hostage to donations.

In response to post #24608229. #24608459, #24608944, #24609039, #24609259, #24609439, #24609544, #24609824, #24609959, #24609974, #24610559, #24610884, #24610914, #24612029 are all replies on the same post. You should read all the posts where it's been clearly pointed out that the only thing Dark0ne wants to remain open and free is the Nexus; there's no conflict of interest because Dark0ne openly admits to being behind modders getting something out of it, so long as the Nexus itself remains free and open. You folks keep putting words in his mouth with this insistence that he's some sort of champion for free mods all the time everywhere, but that's simply not the case, and that's the same as stating that Dark0ne thinks modders don't deserve to be paid for their time and effort. The opposite has been repeatedly (seriously, repeatedly, there is an extensive record of this) and openly stated for some time. Besides, there's a little poetic justice in Valve paying just a little bit towards keeping the Nexus free.