Exakter

Posts like Arethias are useless to me. Don't make them here. Not interesting in nay-saying bulls***. I know what is causing me problems. Skyrim has multiple issues, always did... SSE looks like it's introduced new issues that even experienced modders have found to be brand new. I can get ctd's without any mods installed, but they are rare (in fact USEEP fixes a lot of them, but itself introduced a couple new ones only recently fixed) I notice for example, that running the new frostfall alone will get me multiple crashes compared to the original. Wet and Cold also has caused me a number of CTDs. It looks like any mod with "cloaking scripts" - scripts that affect the player character that continually run in the background - are causing increased CTDs with SSE. I am not a modder familiar with Skyrim, so I'm not sure why this is. Though a part of me thinks the SKSE must have either purposefully or inadvertently made scripts run smoother. Yet this IS happening across the board. Mods that I've noticed causing issues in this game so far? Footsteps, Wet and Cold, ANY of the Sands of Time mods... Immersive Citizens/Armor I used to be able to run so many of these together in Oldrim, but not SSE. I'm tempted to go back to Oldrim myself... but for some reason I can't find myself doing it. (Am stubborn) Just because turning Frostfalls off doesn't stop your crashes doesn't mean it wouldn't have caused you more. It just means your current crashes are not frostfall related (though it could add to them)

Mod list.

duff?

hmm still getting crashes with frostfall on, and turning off the majority of my other scripting mods ( I think). I've turned off all my HD mods except for character models I'm running Magic Duel, Frostfall, Smilodon, Immersive Armors, two populated mods (Towns/roads), RDO, Realistic Conversations. Immersive citizens and one or two others. But... my computer is a beast, I never had these issues in Oldrim when the game was just released and I'm fairly sure I had even more mods. Frostfall seems to be bugged. (I rolled back to an earlier version of Frostfall, and my game doesn't crash at all). So while I'm sure there is a lot to be said for your posts (thank you !) they don't seem to be specifically related to THESE crashes.

roger, restart!

thanks for that. I'll turn half of those off, mostly flavor mods. Frostfall has a major impact on gameplay though I want that.

hmmm, then I guess I'll turn off Wet and cold and Enhanced Blood and give Frostfall a shot then. Any other script heavy mods on my list?

Interestingly enough my crashes stopped when I turned off (ingame) Frostfall. I've posted something on the frostfall page for chesko, not sure what the issue is. (Could be scripting, could be conflicts, I'd wait to hear from Chesko after I figure out where to upload my save)

Teeny bit about me - I've modded TONS of games and am fairly good at following instructions, I think I've got most of the basic conflicts already dealt with, but if you see any please let me know. I'm going through my mods one by one at the moment because of the following... So... I'm freezing in game constantly, this is in and out of combat.. in and out of cities/dungeons and the like. Sometimes it occurs in the same place, sometimes it doesn't. Due to my limited Skyrim modding experience it's hard for me to figure out which is doing what. I'm NOT using a bashed patch, and I've looked into wyre somewhat, which seems to me to combine conflicting mods so they are able to load with a minimum of issues. I'm trying to avoid that by overriding some issues and just avoiding some mods completely. (If I must use wyre because of known existing issues between these mods, please let me know... I'll learn what I need to on my own) However, I've got a couple of quest mods/big mods that could have conflicting issues i'm unaware of. (which is why i'm reading up on each of my mods - note, I read everything about a mod before I install it, so it's unlikely it was a known issue with an individual mod when I installed it, but doesn't mean something has popped up in the interim) From my EXTENSIVE modding experience in other games (which also tells me I should just maybe learn how to use wyre), what it feels like to me is that I'm either stressing my system out too much (am running near constantly at 30 fps in crowded areas, but regularly 50-60 outside of them) or having some major scripting mod conflicts. I restarted a game after these crashes popped up there, and I figured either I uninstalled a mod which broke things, or installed one... or it's something that just appeared after multiple days. 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why not use AFT? That seems fairly minimal and widely used/tested to me.

I lost interest in what you have to say when diverse became a bad word in your lexicon.

Those should all be compatible with the right updates. Just make sure they are updated (dont trust NMM) and read each mod's load order. I run every single one of those and about 60 more so...

AFAIK it's the same as vanilla.

I agree that a Delay Cultist Mod (similar to delay vampires) would be great.

well there is no master - compatible mods list yet unfortunately so it's test and error. Honestly I'm using... 128 active mods atm. I've had some issues in some specific locations and had to isolate which mod is causing what problem. A lot of these mods like weather mods, flora mods, texture mods are NOT compatible but that doesn't mean they will instantly crash. Some modify the same assets and you can just choose which mod to use which assets for. For textures this is mostly okay, but i'm unsure if the same can be said for re-meshing mods like SMIM. For weather mods I specifically only use compatible ones because I don't know how everything is triggered. You seem to be approaching it in the same vein as myself, which is the only way. I'm starting my second playthrough now after my last got corrupted by Open Cities (it's really buggy right now unfortunately, or SEEMS as so, and is barely compatible with most mods that change behavior in cities and... weird things happen) It's a shame as it's one of the more awesome mods in terms of actual immersion for me. I tried to avoid it by removing open cities, but... I screwed up and even waiting in a dungeon for 30 days caused me to lose over 200 npcs to random world-space errors and deaths.