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Most of the mods I run are gameplay changes. I will go thru the game for while after I first get it, see what aspects I would like to change, then find mods that do what I want. If I can't find something that does exactly what I want, I will download something close, and then modify it to suit my desires. That was a lot easier in previous games....... In rare instances, I will ask permission from the original author, to upload what I have done. That's always fun too. :D

What platform are you playing on?

Why? Not like your eye would be able to tell the difference.... and it's entirely possible that going beyond the 60FPS would do funny things to the game. (beth games get stupid over 60FPS..... I know, it's not a beth game, just an example....)

It was the first result for me...... Does google hate you? :D Although, Google IS changing the way search results come up. Apparently, they are only going to show two results per site..... so as to enhance 'diversity' in their web results........ Still and all, that *shouldn't* have stopped it from showing up..... (and, I have no clue when they are supposed to actually implement that change.....

This mod.

Yeah, that is going to run whatever game you want, without any trouble at all. :D

A restart should kill the process. (unless it is scheduled for the current time....) And in all reality, you only really need to run a scan if you suspect it might actually find something. Defender works in the background anyway. If the machine is on, and not especially busy, Defender will do a background scan, and you don't even notice it happening.

May wanna grab tesvedit, load up your mods, then go have a look and see which mods are affecting that quest.

Which i9 did you get? From the rest of it, I am thinkin' that is going to run whatever you want, without even breaking a sweat. :D

Yeah, I am sure CC updates ARE going to be an issue for the script extender folks, and any mods that use it...... Unless beth can come up with a better method of updates for 'new content'.... But, they said that they were going to do something before, and I don't recall seeing anything change....... Trouble is, CC content is mostly just 'fluff', there aren't any overhauls, no real content of any consequence, nothing even approaching some of the work that 'free modders' put out..... (major quest mods, etc.) If you want the 'real' stuff, the GOOD stuff, ya gotta come here. (or similar sites.)

Dilation. Expanding Universe. Space and time. The Electronic Universe by Thomas Findlay works helps focus on the past and present scientific considerations. .... I'm not saying Mr. Findlay's PDF book is fact or fiction. Download the PDF and read the first couple of pages before it goes off into the classroom details of neutrons and electrons and electricity we all learned in high school. .... The Electric Universe ideas are fiction. As a theory it fails to describe current observations and fails to make any predictions. Most electric universe proponents choose to believe that gravity is not a fundamental force. Mind you, relativity isn't perfect, but it is good and practical. That being said, fictional cosmologies can be a big hit (I still enjoy my Norse and Greek mythologies), but I get the feeling that isn't what OP is looking for. From the perspective of each observer, time is still passing normally; it wouldn't make someone live longer in the sense of their own perception. So, in that sense, it wouldn't extend human longevity. However, if I wanted to jump to the future, I could leave Earth, travel for a while at very fast speed, and then return. From the perspective of people on Earth, I would have aged slower, because I appear younger than I should be. From my perspective, I would have aged normally. So, in the sense that someone who was alive in the year 2200 could still be alive in the year 3200, it could appear as if he lived longer, but from his perspective, his lifespan is still 80 years or so. I hope that makes sense. I don't know if the Earth's rotation is slowing down, but it would follow that if it was, we would need to compensate for that. Such changes if they are occurring would be very small. I am not familiar with that quote from Einstein. Nope, still don't get it. I understand the relativity sort of, but I'm just not seeing the overall formula. NeedSomeMCP Is the time shift variant's between the departure and return like the space astronaut who travels through time finding them self on an Earth like planet where they find out later, as they escape from a primitive tribe of animals that can talk, and keep humans as slaves, the astronaut finds the Statue of Liberty sticking out of shore toward the end short of what could happen? Only if he looked like Charlton Heston. :)

Yeah, of all the TES series, Morrowind was certainly my favorite. :) I expect the game will be more 'streamlined', as beth likes to call it, dumbed down is what I call it. I really don't expect they will nerf modding capabilities though...... as beth wants to make money off of those types of mods as well.

Why not? The game *should* be single player..... Yeah, there will be creation club content, but, why would beth NOT release the ck, like they have done for every previous game since Morrowind? The free mods are what contribute to the games longevity. Do you think folks would still be playing morrowind, if there weren't mods?? Beth is going to be using the 64bit version of their 'updated' creation engine, so, I would fully expect the CK to release shortly after the game does.

This should really be in the FO4 CS forum..... I know, it's fun to find, but, it's there. :D

Time will pass at the same rate on any planet surface. For the most part..... It is during travel that things get weird. Of course, that assumes that you are traveling in normal space, and sub-light velocities. As you get go faster, time passes slower...... Of course, we can only manage a tiny fraction of the speed of light at this point, such that is would take decades to get to the nearest star. (averaging about .1 C) Not exactly practical. :smile: Before interplanetary travel becomes actually useful, we need to be able to do MUCH better than that.... Even at the speed of light, the nearest star is still 4 years away....... (and theoretically, we could never even come close to that speed, because of the energy required to accelerate to that speed..... Numbers get truly stupid as you approach C.)

Our schools seem to have issues with figuring out just what the 'truth' is...... and it varies from school to school. For the most part though, they like to call it 'socialism', not communism, as that has less negative connotations....... And you are correct, the folks espousing communism/socialism as a 'better way of life', have never lived in a communist/socialist country...... The school I went to, and every book I have ever read states quite clearly that communism and socialism are different. Socialism: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism - any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods Communism: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism - a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed And socialism is worse than communism, as socialism (by definition) puts the power and control over resources into the hands of a central authority. Communism puts the control of resources into the hands of the community. And like the majority of the uninformed and poorly educated, you are using the word "communism" for what is actually "authoritarianism communism" or socialism. Communism and Socialism share the same ideals: uniformity, collectivism, central authority and so on. Both are bad and lead to totalitarianism because the only way you can implement collectivism and uniformity is by force. I have seen it and I have lived it. My "emotional" arguments, as you named them, are based on facts and lived experiecens thanks to the implementation, by force, of these "beautiful" ideals discussed here and today by "intellectuals" which, by the way, have never lived in their own flesh what is like Communism and Socialism in the practice and that pretend to know it all. No Communism and neither Socialism work. Both lead to misery and totalitarianism and end in permanent econimic disaster. You can theorize as long as you want about it but real facts and statistics of Communism and Socialism applied will always hit you in the face. Listen the experience of people who have lived it and no the theories of people who dont. So what you are saying is that I should destroy all the history books, all the political science books, all the periodicals, all the documentaries, all the books on economic theory, and listen only to your overwrought, irrational and emotional ravings? Someone whose only qualification is "I was there"? No, I think not. I stand by my original statement, you are too close to be objective Do you know what is really sad? When I emigrated from my born country because of the Communism, the Communism was starting to grow in the country where I emigrated. I tried to warn people about the dangerous of the implementation of these ideas. Many of them, like you, called my arguments emotionals and irrationals. They told me to read more and called me ignorant. But time is wiser and gave me the reason. Now all those people are suffering what is Communism in their flesh. Many have emigrated, others have lost all and live in misery and those who opposed are in jail or dead. Reading is good, but it doesnt make you necessarily wiser if the source is wrong. You know nothing about me or my proffesion to call me ignorant or poorly educated as you have called everyone with a different point of view. But dont worry, I have no hurt feelings about it. I complied warning you. Is the least I can do and I will always do it no matter if people believe me or not. You can believe what you want, think what you want and do what you want. Have a nice day. What is really sad is the belief that "I was there" makes you smarter than everybody else and that the only thoughts on the subject which matter are yours. What is really sad is that you ignore the collected learning of mankind and the lessons of history. all of which are recorded in the libraries of the world. Any society or person which ignores its past is doomed to repeat it, and deserves to. What is really sad is that you are unable to put down you hatred and anger long enough to look at the world from any perspective but your own. And what is really, really sad is that you are trapped in that world of hatred and anger, in a prison of your own making. You wear the shackles of your past willingly and eagerly. Like I said in the beginning, I do not which to diminish your experiences. They are what defines you and binds you. Anger? You are the one who calls ignorant or diminishes everyone else here who does not agree with you, including me, which turns into a personal attack when everyone here is discussing about an ideology. Even so, you can not deny facts. But I understand that it can be frustrating to defend the indefendible. But you've got a point. Yes, Marxism should be taught as it should be taught its devastating consequences. And, BTW, I am not alone, I am not the only one, there thousands, millions who "were there". But people like you wont listen anyway. People like you think "All these people is wrong, Marx was right, we gotta try again". And the result is the same. Basically, reading between lines, Marx thought the proletarians was a mass of ignorant people who should be leaded by people like him. Isn't that a way of thinking that people like him was superior and the rest of people was inferior? A real "deep" tought coming from a man who was unable to support himself or his family. Yes, I have read a lot, I have read between lines, I have learnt the lesson and, by the way, I have also lived the experience. So that place you are trying to go, I went and I am came back long time ago. And I am not the only one. Ignorant is not the one who doesnt read, ignorant is the one who read and doesnt learn anything. "Socialism of any type leads to the destruction of the human spirit" - Alexandr Solzhenitsyn Was Alexandr Solzhenitsyn, a man who lived the real horror, a "sad, angry, full of hate man"? Shouldnt we pay attention to his arguments because they are "emotionals" arguments? Well, I do prefer to listen the arguments of someone who lived in his flesh the horrors of the applied Socialism than to listen the arguments of Karl Marx followers, who have never lived under such regimes. That is the best way of not repeating the errors from the past. I wouldn't bother to waste any more of your time on him. He is a pseudo intellectual with a heavy dose of ego, and arrogance. You won't be able to 'win' an argument with him, as he will simply deflect, demean your character/intelligence, and deny doing things that you only need to read back a post or two, to see that he is indeed guilty. I just put him on my ignore list, so I am spared having to read his drivel. I have better things to waste my time on. You can't successfully argue your position, so you use a straw man attack. And you do it using the very tactics you accuse me of using. You accuse me of arrogance, when all I have done is provide you with the documented truth. Well, here is one last truth for you. You are so wrapped up in yourself and your opinions that you do not want to see any truth which does not match you preconceived notions. If a truth does not affirm your ideology, it is automatically discarded. And I assume that is why you have blocked me, so you won't have to see any more of those inconvenient and uncomfortable truths. Congrats! You have successfully and thoroughly proved my point. You don't have the faintest idea who I am, or what I am about, but, you can make judgements of this nature based on our interaction on a 'debate' forum. (of which I am notorious for arguing unpopular positions......) I would put forth that YOU are the one that cannot see the truth that is right in front of you. Go back, read your own posts. I would ask that you try and be objective, but, I know that is a lost cause.... So you are so wrapped up in being 'right', that you wouldn't know a truth if it jumped up and bit you in the rear. You dismiss a mans' opinions, and direct observations, accuse him of being 'wrapped up in his own hatred', while you yourself are wrapped up in your own self-love. I have dealt with folks just like you for a good portion of my life, and came to the realization that it simply doesn't matter what I say, you will find some reason to disagree with me, and back it up with your 'facts'. Even if I appear to agree with you...... And here I am doing exactly what I accuse you of. :smile: Couple different perspectives on that. 1. Takes one to know one. Or, 2. Training in profiling. I will let you figure out on your own which it is. :D And once more, into the breach. I am sure you will have a snappy comeback, based on stuff you have read....... (including what I have written.) Make it good, make it to the point, see how many insults you can stuff into it in as few words as possible. I know you can do it, as you are oh so good at it. See if you have any more pearls to toss. My wife needs a new necklace, and she just LOVES pearls. Oh, and by the way, the 'thank you for your service' was genuine. From one Vet to another. So, you do have at least one redeeming characteristic. And no response for our resident experienced man? Why not?? Someone else you won't cast any more pearls before?? I do not need to know you to draw reasonable and rational conclusions from your posts and the way in which you choose to communicate. Do you honestly think that your posts in this thread are the only ones which I have to evaluate your character? I read your posts in the thread Racial Tolerance or Just an Act. You called PoorlyAged "arrogant" and "holier than thou" in that thread, when all he did was debunk all your false arguments supporting 'racial' distinctions. So from my chair, "arrogant" and 'holier than thou" are your opening salvo when you find your arguments failing in the face of facts. At that point, reason and logic are abandoned and you start resorting to insults and ad hominems. So being called "arrogant" and 'holier than thou" by you means I am doing something right and I consider it a badge of honor. And finally, you use another straw man attack, using my choice to cease discussion with someone. But then again, that is par for you course. Not reading everything and assuming you know what you are talking about. So, for your education: Now, either take me out of your ignore list (since you obviously aren't ignoring my posts), or respect your choice to ignore inconvenient and uncomfortable truths. *snicker* I see to recall something about 'no more pearls' for me as well, yet here you are, casting more of them. Thanks for that. My wife will love the necklace I am making. But, you are correct. You are indeed on my ignore list, so, henceforth, I shall do just that. Ignore you.

You don't put the mods on the CD, they go in the data folder where the game is installed on your harddrive.

Glad to know that it would be fine with anything. It was my first build and was super careful about building it. As for load time and such I have no problem with a bit of waiting so I chose what was in my budget at the time but was also known as reliable. :D It's getting to the point where the solid state drives are actually more reliable than the mechanical drives. :D

Which part? :) Our clock here is based on the time it takes for the earth to make one complete revolution about its axis, and a year is one revolution around our sun. In the future, when (if?) we expand to other planets, it will likely be pretty much the same as it is here. There will be 'local time', and then there will be "Earth Standard time." Local time will likely be more important, and folks will base their schedules on the local time...... I suspect a lot will depend on just how long it takes us to travel between planets. If it is measure in days/hours, EST will have some relevance. If it takes years...... then EST simply won't be a factor at all.

Our schools seem to have issues with figuring out just what the 'truth' is...... and it varies from school to school. For the most part though, they like to call it 'socialism', not communism, as that has less negative connotations....... And you are correct, the folks espousing communism/socialism as a 'better way of life', have never lived in a communist/socialist country...... The school I went to, and every book I have ever read states quite clearly that communism and socialism are different. Socialism: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism - any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods Communism: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism - a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed And socialism is worse than communism, as socialism (by definition) puts the power and control over resources into the hands of a central authority. Communism puts the control of resources into the hands of the community. And like the majority of the uninformed and poorly educated, you are using the word "communism" for what is actually "authoritarianism communism" or socialism. Communism and Socialism share the same ideals: uniformity, collectivism, central authority and so on. Both are bad and lead to totalitarianism because the only way you can implement collectivism and uniformity is by force. I have seen it and I have lived it. My "emotional" arguments, as you named them, are based on facts and lived experiecens thanks to the implementation, by force, of these "beautiful" ideals discussed here and today by "intellectuals" which, by the way, have never lived in their own flesh what is like Communism and Socialism in the practice and that pretend to know it all. No Communism and neither Socialism work. Both lead to misery and totalitarianism and end in permanent econimic disaster. You can theorize as long as you want about it but real facts and statistics of Communism and Socialism applied will always hit you in the face. Listen the experience of people who have lived it and no the theories of people who dont. So what you are saying is that I should destroy all the history books, all the political science books, all the periodicals, all the documentaries, all the books on economic theory, and listen only to your overwrought, irrational and emotional ravings? Someone whose only qualification is "I was there"? No, I think not. I stand by my original statement, you are too close to be objective Do you know what is really sad? When I emigrated from my born country because of the Communism, the Communism was starting to grow in the country where I emigrated. I tried to warn people about the dangerous of the implementation of these ideas. Many of them, like you, called my arguments emotionals and irrationals. They told me to read more and called me ignorant. But time is wiser and gave me the reason. Now all those people are suffering what is Communism in their flesh. Many have emigrated, others have lost all and live in misery and those who opposed are in jail or dead. Reading is good, but it doesnt make you necessarily wiser if the source is wrong. You know nothing about me or my proffesion to call me ignorant or poorly educated as you have called everyone with a different point of view. But dont worry, I have no hurt feelings about it. I complied warning you. Is the least I can do and I will always do it no matter if people believe me or not. You can believe what you want, think what you want and do what you want. Have a nice day. What is really sad is the belief that "I was there" makes you smarter than everybody else and that the only thoughts on the subject which matter are yours. What is really sad is that you ignore the collected learning of mankind and the lessons of history. all of which are recorded in the libraries of the world. Any society or person which ignores its past is doomed to repeat it, and deserves to. What is really sad is that you are unable to put down you hatred and anger long enough to look at the world from any perspective but your own. And what is really, really sad is that you are trapped in that world of hatred and anger, in a prison of your own making. You wear the shackles of your past willingly and eagerly. Like I said in the beginning, I do not which to diminish your experiences. They are what defines you and binds you. Anger? You are the one who calls ignorant or diminishes everyone else here who does not agree with you, including me, which turns into a personal attack when everyone here is discussing about an ideology. Even so, you can not deny facts. But I understand that it can be frustrating to defend the indefendible. But you've got a point. Yes, Marxism should be taught as it should be taught its devastating consequences. And, BTW, I am not alone, I am not the only one, there thousands, millions who "were there". But people like you wont listen anyway. People like you think "All these people is wrong, Marx was right, we gotta try again". And the result is the same. Basically, reading between lines, Marx thought the proletarians was a mass of ignorant people who should be leaded by people like him. Isn't that a way of thinking that people like him was superior and the rest of people was inferior? A real "deep" tought coming from a man who was unable to support himself or his family. Yes, I have read a lot, I have read between lines, I have learnt the lesson and, by the way, I have also lived the experience. So that place you are trying to go, I went and I am came back long time ago. And I am not the only one. Ignorant is not the one who doesnt read, ignorant is the one who read and doesnt learn anything. "Socialism of any type leads to the destruction of the human spirit" - Alexandr Solzhenitsyn Was Alexandr Solzhenitsyn, a man who lived the real horror, a "sad, angry, full of hate man"? Shouldnt we pay attention to his arguments because they are "emotionals" arguments? Well, I do prefer to listen the arguments of someone who lived in his flesh the horrors of the applied Socialism than to listen the arguments of Karl Marx followers, who have never lived under such regimes. That is the best way of not repeating the errors from the past. I wouldn't bother to waste any more of your time on him. He is a pseudo intellectual with a heavy dose of ego, and arrogance. You won't be able to 'win' an argument with him, as he will simply deflect, demean your character/intelligence, and deny doing things that you only need to read back a post or two, to see that he is indeed guilty. I just put him on my ignore list, so I am spared having to read his drivel. I have better things to waste my time on. You can't successfully argue your position, so you use a straw man attack. And you do it using the very tactics you accuse me of using. You accuse me of arrogance, when all I have done is provide you with the documented truth. Well, here is one last truth for you. You are so wrapped up in yourself and your opinions that you do not want to see any truth which does not match you preconceived notions. If a truth does not affirm your ideology, it is automatically discarded. And I assume that is why you have blocked me, so you won't have to see any more of those inconvenient and uncomfortable truths. Congrats! You have successfully and thoroughly proved my point. You don't have the faintest idea who I am, or what I am about, but, you can make judgements of this nature based on our interaction on a 'debate' forum. (of which I am notorious for arguing unpopular positions......) I would put forth that YOU are the one that cannot see the truth that is right in front of you. Go back, read your own posts. I would ask that you try and be objective, but, I know that is a lost cause.... So you are so wrapped up in being 'right', that you wouldn't know a truth if it jumped up and bit you in the rear. You dismiss a mans' opinions, and direct observations, accuse him of being 'wrapped up in his own hatred', while you yourself are wrapped up in your own self-love. I have dealt with folks just like you for a good portion of my life, and came to the realization that it simply doesn't matter what I say, you will find some reason to disagree with me, and back it up with your 'facts'. Even if I appear to agree with you...... And here I am doing exactly what I accuse you of. :smile: Couple different perspectives on that. 1. Takes one to know one. Or, 2. Training in profiling. I will let you figure out on your own which it is. :D And once more, into the breach. I am sure you will have a snappy comeback, based on stuff you have read....... (including what I have written.) Make it good, make it to the point, see how many insults you can stuff into it in as few words as possible. I know you can do it, as you are oh so good at it. See if you have any more pearls to toss. My wife needs a new necklace, and she just LOVES pearls. Oh, and by the way, the 'thank you for your service' was genuine. From one Vet to another. So, you do have at least one redeeming characteristic. And no response for our resident experienced man? Why not?? Someone else you won't cast any more pearls before??

I would be tempted to skip the 1TB hdd, and go with another SSD. (or, one larger one.....) Load times from an SSD are a LOT faster. :) Aside from that, looks like it will run most any game you care to, quite well.

Our schools seem to have issues with figuring out just what the 'truth' is...... and it varies from school to school. For the most part though, they like to call it 'socialism', not communism, as that has less negative connotations....... And you are correct, the folks espousing communism/socialism as a 'better way of life', have never lived in a communist/socialist country...... The school I went to, and every book I have ever read states quite clearly that communism and socialism are different. Socialism: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism - any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods Communism: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism - a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed And socialism is worse than communism, as socialism (by definition) puts the power and control over resources into the hands of a central authority. Communism puts the control of resources into the hands of the community. And like the majority of the uninformed and poorly educated, you are using the word "communism" for what is actually "authoritarianism communism" or socialism. Communism and Socialism share the same ideals: uniformity, collectivism, central authority and so on. Both are bad and lead to totalitarianism because the only way you can implement collectivism and uniformity is by force. I have seen it and I have lived it. My "emotional" arguments, as you named them, are based on facts and lived experiecens thanks to the implementation, by force, of these "beautiful" ideals discussed here and today by "intellectuals" which, by the way, have never lived in their own flesh what is like Communism and Socialism in the practice and that pretend to know it all. No Communism and neither Socialism work. Both lead to misery and totalitarianism and end in permanent econimic disaster. You can theorize as long as you want about it but real facts and statistics of Communism and Socialism applied will always hit you in the face. Listen the experience of people who have lived it and no the theories of people who dont. So what you are saying is that I should destroy all the history books, all the political science books, all the periodicals, all the documentaries, all the books on economic theory, and listen only to your overwrought, irrational and emotional ravings? Someone whose only qualification is "I was there"? No, I think not. I stand by my original statement, you are too close to be objective Do you know what is really sad? When I emigrated from my born country because of the Communism, the Communism was starting to grow in the country where I emigrated. I tried to warn people about the dangerous of the implementation of these ideas. Many of them, like you, called my arguments emotionals and irrationals. They told me to read more and called me ignorant. But time is wiser and gave me the reason. Now all those people are suffering what is Communism in their flesh. Many have emigrated, others have lost all and live in misery and those who opposed are in jail or dead. Reading is good, but it doesnt make you necessarily wiser if the source is wrong. You know nothing about me or my proffesion to call me ignorant or poorly educated as you have called everyone with a different point of view. But dont worry, I have no hurt feelings about it. I complied warning you. Is the least I can do and I will always do it no matter if people believe me or not. You can believe what you want, think what you want and do what you want. Have a nice day. What is really sad is the belief that "I was there" makes you smarter than everybody else and that the only thoughts on the subject which matter are yours. What is really sad is that you ignore the collected learning of mankind and the lessons of history. all of which are recorded in the libraries of the world. Any society or person which ignores its past is doomed to repeat it, and deserves to. What is really sad is that you are unable to put down you hatred and anger long enough to look at the world from any perspective but your own. And what is really, really sad is that you are trapped in that world of hatred and anger, in a prison of your own making. You wear the shackles of your past willingly and eagerly. Like I said in the beginning, I do not which to diminish your experiences. They are what defines you and binds you. Anger? You are the one who calls ignorant or diminishes everyone else here who does not agree with you, including me, which turns into a personal attack when everyone here is discussing about an ideology. Even so, you can not deny facts. But I understand that it can be frustrating to defend the indefendible. But you've got a point. Yes, Marxism should be taught as it should be taught its devastating consequences. And, BTW, I am not alone, I am not the only one, there thousands, millions who "were there". But people like you wont listen anyway. People like you think "All these people is wrong, Marx was right, we gotta try again". And the result is the same. Basically, reading between lines, Marx thought the proletarians was a mass of ignorant people who should be leaded by people like him. Isn't that a way of thinking that people like him was superior and the rest of people was inferior? A real "deep" tought coming from a man who was unable to support himself or his family. Yes, I have read a lot, I have read between lines, I have learnt the lesson and, by the way, I have also lived the experience. So that place you are trying to go, I went and I am came back long time ago. And I am not the only one. Ignorant is not the one who doesnt read, ignorant is the one who read and doesnt learn anything. "Socialism of any type leads to the destruction of the human spirit" - Alexandr Solzhenitsyn Was Alexandr Solzhenitsyn, a man who lived the real horror, a "sad, angry, full of hate man"? Shouldnt we pay attention to his arguments because they are "emotionals" arguments? Well, I do prefer to listen the arguments of someone who lived in his flesh the horrors of the applied Socialism than to listen the arguments of Karl Marx followers, who have never lived under such regimes. That is the best way of not repeating the errors from the past. I wouldn't bother to waste any more of your time on him. He is a pseudo intellectual with a heavy dose of ego, and arrogance. You won't be able to 'win' an argument with him, as he will simply deflect, demean your character/intelligence, and deny doing things that you only need to read back a post or two, to see that he is indeed guilty. I just put him on my ignore list, so I am spared having to read his drivel. I have better things to waste my time on.

Have a read here.

Our schools seem to have issues with figuring out just what the 'truth' is...... and it varies from school to school. For the most part though, they like to call it 'socialism', not communism, as that has less negative connotations....... And you are correct, the folks espousing communism/socialism as a 'better way of life', have never lived in a communist/socialist country...... The school I went to, and every book I have ever read states quite clearly that communism and socialism are different. Socialism: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism - any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods Communism: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism - a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed And socialism is worse than communism, as socialism (by definition) puts the power and control over resources into the hands of a central authority. Communism puts the control of resources into the hands of the community. And like the majority of the uninformed and poorly educated, you are using the word "communism" for what is actually "authoritarianism communism" or socialism. Communism and Socialism share the same ideals: uniformity, collectivism, central authority and so on. Both are bad and lead to totalitarianism because the only way you can implement collectivism and uniformity is by force. I have seen it and I have lived it. My "emotional" arguments, as you named them, are based on facts and lived experiecens thanks to the implementation, by force, of these "beautiful" ideals discussed here and today by "intellectuals" which, by the way, have never lived in their own flesh what is like Communism and Socialism in the practice and that pretend to know it all. No Communism and neither Socialism work. Both lead to misery and totalitarianism and end in permanent econimic disaster. You can theorize as long as you want about it but real facts and statistics of Communism and Socialism applied will always hit you in the face. Listen the experience of people who have lived it and no the theories of people who dont. Read a book. Learn the difference between a political system and an economic system. Isn't it the same? Isn't "owned by state" just a bigger form of "owned in common"? Because question is if your authoritarianism communism is not decadence of your idealistic communism. How socialism can be worse? what is "hands of community" other than "hands of central authority" in bigger form? Socialism sound to me like starting with the same background like communism and developed better. Because it does count with reality. You cannot do it differently - some goods will always have to be held in public authorities, question is if the purpose is stated to be for the poor and common good, or if it is purely in hands of individuals to do whatever they want with it - that is totalism? But as I said before, still I believe it - the worst mistake of totalistic communism was to remove faith and anything supernatural in fear, that is like cutting your hand and goes against nature of humans, but all the rest does sound like decadence: we are all equal=nobody can be different=nobody is allowed to have their own dreams=people will live double life everything should be held in common=nobody is allowed to have somethign extra=everything belong to the community=people will steal everyone can work for 1 goal=everyone should work for 1 goal=nobody is allowed to work for themselves.. = people will stop working Why? Because that is nature of people - they want to be different, they want to own things for themselves and they want to work on their own things. So if communism will be on the level of state, it will have to force people into it, that will lead to totalism and totalism to total decay and bankruptcy. That is atleast how it does sound to me - after all the discussions here and after all the thinking. EDIT: But in China - how they do it? They control their people somehow, don't they? So what you are saying is that I should destroy all the history books, all the political science books, all the periodicals, all the documentaries, all the books on economic theory, and listen only to your overwrought, irrational and emotional ravings of someone whose only qualification is "I was there". No, I think not. I stand by my original statement, you are too close to be objective. Learn the difference between what it says in a book, (theory) and how it works in actual practice. The two are seldom even remotely comparable. I am FAR more likely to trust the experience of someone that has actually LIVED in such a system, than some intellectual that has only read about it, and has zero practical experience with EITHER system. By your belief, I am an expert on war simply because I fought in one. What a crock of < expletive deleted >. I know my experience only and my experience was limited to specific places and specific periods of time. So even though I fought in a war, I know nothing about the totality of war other than what I read in books. The very books, in fact, which the Department of Defense uses to teach future officers at Annapolis, West Point, and Colorado Springs. It seems that The Department of Defense recognizes the value of books as the recorded thinking and history of a people. Experience is a lousy source for anything but anecdotal information. And in spite of the trope, experience is a terrible teacher. Experience is haphazard, erratic and arbitrary. No two people have the same experience. And no two people experience the same event the same way. So relying on experience to make a value judgement is a risky proposition at best. Remember always that "first hand accounts" based on ''experience" are anecdotes. Anecdotes come with few to no verifiable facts, and 'word of mouth' is often a tactic used in disinformation and propaganda campaigns. Just look at what happened in El Norte during the 2016 Presidential campaign. So, I am prone to believe data which are repeatable, measurable and verifiable, and which comes from a reputable source. The kinds of data found in books. If you want some information that is not anecdotal and comes from books, Lawrence Martin-Bittman wrote three. Before he defected in 1968, Bittman was an intelligence officer specializing in disinformation for the Czechoslovak Intelligence Service. Or try the books by Oleg Gordievsky. He defected in 1961, became an Agent for MI6 and returned to Russia. Or Alexander Mikhailovich Zuyev a Soviet Air Force pilot who flew a MIG 29 to Turkey and defected in 1989. One last thought. Most of those that defected from the Soviet Union were 'educated intellectuals'. The kind of people that read books. I wonder, is there a correlation? Well, of course you know more about it than someone that actually lived under such regimes, because you read books......... I would also point out that because you fought in a war (thank you for your service) you know a heck of a lot more about it than some that ONLY read books. I am not going to read anything on topic, because I am just not that concerned, I will take the word of someone with direct experience, that it is not a pleasant system to live under, on a large scale. In all reality, I should have known better than to respond. Your response is not only predicable, but, expected. You know all, know more than anyone else, are always right, and couldn't possible be wrong...... or misguided. Because you read books. I won't respond to you again. I CAN learn from MY mistakes.

Our schools seem to have issues with figuring out just what the 'truth' is...... and it varies from school to school. For the most part though, they like to call it 'socialism', not communism, as that has less negative connotations....... And you are correct, the folks espousing communism/socialism as a 'better way of life', have never lived in a communist/socialist country...... The school I went to, and every book I have ever read states quite clearly that communism and socialism are different. Socialism: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism - any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods Communism: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism - a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed And socialism is worse than communism, as socialism (by definition) puts the power and control over resources into the hands of a central authority. Communism puts the control of resources into the hands of the community. And like the majority of the uninformed and poorly educated, you are using the word "communism" for what is actually "authoritarianism communism" or socialism. Communism and Socialism share the same ideals: uniformity, collectivism, central authority and so on. Both are bad and lead to totalitarianism because the only way you can implement collectivism and uniformity is by force. I have seen it and I have lived it. My "emotional" arguments, as you named them, are based on facts and lived experiecens thanks to the implementation, by force, of these "beautiful" ideals discussed here and today by "intellectuals" which, by the way, have never lived in their own flesh what is like Communism and Socialism in the practice and that pretend to know it all. No Communism and neither Socialism work. Both lead to misery and totalitarianism and end in permanent econimic disaster. You can theorize as long as you want about it but real facts and statistics of Communism and Socialism applied will always hit you in the face. Listen the experience of people who have lived it and no the theories of people who dont. Read a book. Learn the difference between a political system and an economic system. Isn't it the same? Isn't "owned by state" just a bigger form of "owned in common"? Because question is if your authoritarianism communism is not decadence of your idealistic communism. How socialism can be worse? what is "hands of community" other than "hands of central authority" in bigger form? Socialism sound to me like starting with the same background like communism and developed better. Because it does count with reality. You cannot do it differently - some goods will always have to be held in public authorities, question is if the purpose is stated to be for the poor and common good, or if it is purely in hands of individuals to do whatever they want with it - that is totalism? But as I said before, still I believe it - the worst mistake of totalistic communism was to remove faith and anything supernatural in fear, that is like cutting your hand and goes against nature of humans, but all the rest does sound like decadence: we are all equal=nobody can be different=nobody is allowed to have their own dreams=people will live double life everything should be held in common=nobody is allowed to have somethign extra=everything belong to the community=people will steal everyone can work for 1 goal=everyone should work for 1 goal=nobody is allowed to work for themselves.. = people will stop working Why? Because that is nature of people - they want to be different, they want to own things for themselves and they want to work on their own things. So if communism will be on the level of state, it will have to force people into it, that will lead to totalism and totalism to total decay and bankruptcy. That is atleast how it does sound to me - after all the discussions here and after all the thinking. EDIT: But in China - how they do it? They control their people somehow, don't they? So what you are saying is that I should destroy all the history books, all the political science books, all the periodicals, all the documentaries, all the books on economic theory, and listen only to your overwrought, irrational and emotional ravings of someone whose only qualification is "I was there". No, I think not. I stand by my original statement, you are too close to be objective. Learn the difference between what it says in a book, (theory) and how it works in actual practice. The two are seldom even remotely comparable. I am FAR more likely to trust the experience of someone that has actually LIVED in such a system, than some intellectual that has only read about it, and has zero practical experience with EITHER system.