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I am trying to figure out why exactly my game suddenly goes into the "Endless Loading Screen" Issue (well after 5 min waiting, i ended the fallout4.exe Task). Its happening since the last week. and since i played with this configuration a year+ long, i never came across. and i know i'm surely pushing the limits of the game. just want to be sure if its about the save file size limit or not. The two save files i experimented with: Char LVL 214 at 76 Days 7 Hours 11 Mins (15619/31794 xp) Save-File Size ~84 MB (Quicksave) Char LVL 215 at 76 Days 4 Hours 52 Mins (71/16321 xp) Save-File Size ~71 MB (Fullsave)Why is my Fullsave a Level higher? I went back to a older Save and wanted to check out if there is a LVL or Ingame Days Limit. But no. 102 active Mods - Loadorder: now what i could figure out so far: The File with 84 MB gets the "Endless Loading Issue".The File with 71 MB not, takes long but loads the save game.Every New Fullsave after loading the 71 MB one gets the "Enlesss Loading Issue". The new FOS-File increased only some KB in Size. Doesn't matter where in the world i am.Disabling 10 Mods not adding "static" Objects to the world (like NPCs and Creatures as well as other Textures) did not help fixing the 84 MB file. Doing it with the 71 MB file and resaving i loaded that save in the fallrim resaver cleaned "unattached instances", what only game me some KBs not MBs.I even disabled all mods except of all "Settlement Objects" Mods which gave me 50 active Mods. Didnd't load up a Follow-Up Save (of the 71 MB one) with ~67 MB.Disabling "Sim Settlements" on the 84 MB file helps. A resaved file went to ~55 MB.Disabling "Fallout 4 Commander" + "Nuka World Plus" on a followup File with 71 MB worked as well. File went to ~67 MB.I even went havoc and cleaned with ReSaver Scripts and and active Scripts. Didn't help though.Cleaning up ChangeForms did help. But that has the same effect loading up a older save or disabling Settlement Object related mods. Removing what i "changed".So i came to a conclusion that a save-file size limit would be around 71 +- MB But a Followup Save on the 71 MB with disabled FCOM & NWPlus will break it again and it was around 67 MB.The Follow-Up Save on the 84 MB with disabled SImSettlemetns stayed at 55 MB and loaded.What debunks my conclusion. A new Char with the Same Mod-List Configuration works fine. Played through till LVL17. But didn't build any settlemens yet. What surely is a big amount to account. Maybe its anyway the file size but on a lower amount? If its a mod suddenly causing it, i didn't found out which one. I don't have visible Mod Conflicts with missing objects or glitches. Nor does F4EDIT state something.Until last week i beleived that bigger file size will only lead to longer load times but not endless.So if you guys out there with a similar high lvl char and as big as or bigger save File size have no issues, the save file size theory is proven wrong.

Settlement Menu Manager lets you fix missing menu items? For me its just an alternative Menu Manager to Settlements Keywords Expanded. And Homemaker relies on SKE not SMM. Sim Settlements rlies on SMM. SKE and Hoemmaker have a "Menu fix" Option in their Holotape Options. If it not works for some reason, you may try this one: Workshop Menu Missing Tabs Fix

hey tannin42 thank you for taking your time replying on my post. didn't exspect that at all. i really appreciate it! Do you have an example for that? I haven't seen a game do that since the 1990s... oh my, you caught me there. so what did i play the most? lets see.. Diablo 3: stored on their server Mass Effect Series: documents\bioware Fallout 4: documents\my games\fallout4 Command & Conquer Series: Documents\[gamename] Legend of Heroes: Trails series: either %appdata%\Falcom or if bought through steam under %programfiles%\Steam\userdata\ xcom: EU and xcom 2: Documents\My Games\[gamename] wolfenstein: saved games (wow, someone effectivly used that location) Anno 2070: Documents\[gamename] yup. the only known game i can recall was half-life and yes it is released in the 1990s. and many, many mods i played. man, now i feel old :laugh: oh, and half-life 2. Release Date 2004 according to wikipedia. well, out of curiosity, i chedked about the savegame location for portal 2 (didn't played it) and... appliction directory. hm, Anno 2205 seems to place them under \Ubisoft\Ubisoft Game Launcher\savegames\[accountid] - technically installation directory. ok, so the only game dev, i can remember, placing saves under installation directory is valve. and every mod based on half-life or source engine. but i still remember encountering it the last two yers. meh, maybe indie games i don't remember anymore.

if you set a new path for downloads and mods under vortex settings > Mods then it will move all the files to the new directory. the "base" directory is not the installation directory. which i still have to figure out why they set a base path anyway. maybe for upcoming features on their to do list. and instead of setting the base, downloads and mods seperatly, which most people will tend to do, set the base directory to the new location and type in the path for mods {base}\modsdownloads {base}\downloads after saving it will move your downloads and mods to the new location.

well, thats actually not correct. if you take the standard installer it puts vortex under program files. the text in the info button will stay the same. if you take the custom installer, you may choose, like me, a custom location. like c:\games\vortex. but anyway, did my advise help you out?

luckily I track all the mods on nexus i actively use. knowing i would need such plan. so i knew what to download. to know how i installed them over an year ago was the harder challange. but thanks to my elefantbrain i remembered :smile: and the other thingy was the load order list i exported from NMM before porting to vortex. sadly Vortex has no such function. and last but not least starting up my save file checking what ESPs are missing and double check my installation. oh, and nexus has a download history too. the challange there is to know what you actually kept vs tried out and deleted. and i'm not aware of any vortex backup list. EDIT: hm.... try out this path: %appdata%\Vortex\ goto "Game Foldername" than "profiles" there is a loadorder.txt and plugins.txt stored.

guess what? i am one of the guys that had vortex point the mods and downloads folder within the application and it let me do it. updating from 0.14.1 to 0.14.3 deleted the both folders. being an it staff professional makes it more embarassing. @me: yes, you should known it better. i actually did or have it with every game drm client or mod manager and they did it by themself or let me manage games and mods that way. from valve's steam, ea's origin, blizzard's battlenet to mod managers like moddb dessura and your NMM: Download and Content being within the application folder. so i did the same with Vortex. i have a hard time to understand, that this can't be handled easily. did read furhter up that its only due to ressource issues "not being worthy to spend effort on it or difficult to fullfil". well i have to assume that implementing an folder exclude rule in the de- and installation routine can't be easily achived wiht the code or framework you are using. there are many games that even set i.e save folder within the appliction folder and when uninstalling it leaves the save folders behind. even newer games. but this is a question of philosophy and/or crossplattform support: put the user content in the micosoft windows given variables thus being in need of programming two code branches. one for ms and the other mac or linux. or placing them within the application folder and thus only the need of one code branch. as stated vortex didn't prevent me from setting the path within application. preventing the user from doing it or excluding the folders from being deleted would, in my opinion, take the same amount of effort. the easiest would be to place a line beloow the foder pathes stating: "if you set the folder wihtin the application be aware that you will loose your content". so lessons learned. took me 4h hours to install and configure my moded fallout 4 with my 100 mods. and the mods and downloads folder is now pointing to my document library where my windows built in "previous versions" function backs them up to my NAS Filer. No, i don't have a domain controller with roaming profile :wink:

well more likely the "walk to and away from chair" on a second topic naming though :wink: i think you all know when you place a chair to close to a wall or other object or there is to less space the player can't tit down because the animation is "blocked". that is at least what i believe is the case. now i have the believe that removing the sit down / up animation would do the trick. so you click on the chair and after 1 sec black screen the char would sit. would that work or do i get the mechanics wrong?

yes i got the pic. just stepped bit aside of it to clear my mind maybe getting some other idea. your fallout4custom.ini is clean and tidy as mine. so the ini should not be the issue. even not having any folders after "sResourceDataDirsFinal=" i know some older mods do provide strings, textures, etc. separately in sub folders of the fallout 4 data folder. but even so, the mods work fine. maybe some do not and i don't have any of those mods installed. try playing around with the "sResourceDataDirsFinal=" entry which just adding specific folders behind it. Presumably those having content in it. For example just: sResourceDataDirsFinal=STRINGS\ Savfe INI-File and try out. if no luck: sResourceDataDirsFinal=TEXTURES\ save INI-File and try out. etc. but that is about i can come up with.

you will find under Fallout 4 \ Data Folder files like: ccBGSFO400xyz.ba2 and if you bought any CC content you should find corresponding ESL Files.

i had the same impression, checked the fallout4 folder and found files named ccXYZ.ba2. so thought that was a false information. but been told that Bethesda would not been allowed to delete content from your PC. Or they just didn't care about that. thus you need to manually delete the ccXYZ.ba2 files which were downloaded with the first release. it would be possible to automate it. if you got no ESL File of that specific content - remove the corresponding BA2-Files from Hard drive. The new content didn't download to my hard drive though.

Well maybe F4SE Team would need to find a way to be not depended on the fallout4.exe version. but i can't judge that because i have no idea why it is in the first place. as far as i understand, every update modifying the fallout4.exe needs an adjustment of the F4SE Launcher thus adjustments of the mods relying on F4SE follow. Well the ccBGSFO400xyz.ba2 Files are still in the Fallout4 data Folder on my pc after this Update.

worked for me as well :smile: edit: just noticed that the strings are placed/edited by the Full Dialogue Interface. you will have the "lookup failed" message gone but will loose the full dialogues entries when interacting with the NPCs and get back the "lite" vanilla version. if somebody is familiar with the Fallout4Translater Tool may edit the strings to solve it. Quote from a post in the FDI Comments: I'm not and hoping for the mod author coming up with an strings update.

there are plenty remove/unequip pipboy mods like this one. or this mod providing a "fix". you also may check the pip-pad mod. maybe one of these mods are what you are looking for :smile: but about the idea. would be cool to have a alternate with the pa hud. my question would all be about the immersion part :wink: maybe some eye goggles or something?

@fonthebon Do you got your Fallout4Custom.ini still properly set up with following lines in it? [Archive] bInvalidateOlderFiles=1 sResourceDataDirsFinal= maybe the update has reset your INI files to default. when enabling a mod (doubleclick on it) do you get a message from NMM?

well, i need to see your fallout4custom.ini. may you add a printscreen of the content mine is as simple as this: edit: seeing your post once more, i was curious. did you set the "=" after sResourceDataDirsFinal? So i removed it with my INI and launched NMM. Doubleclicked a mod and get the same message. Please chek your ini file about the =

your INI files are under C:\Users\[username]\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\? the Fallout4Custom.ini needs this added: [Archive] bInvalidateOlderFiles=1 sResourceDataDirsFinal= to be sure you are in the right location, the other files there will be: fallout4.ini fallout4prefs.ini ControlMap_Custom.txt and the folder Saves with your save files. maybe post a printscreen of the warning you are getting, wenn doing that will help.

well, you don't notice this in your load order? Crafting Workbenches - Removed Crafting Experience.esp=1

has to do with your ini file content. or see also: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3670140-the-old-fallout-4-ini-edits-are-deprecated/ https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/458607699614448931/ https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/1843493219430221977/ https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/364040166681578477/

hm, in my game at a certain point they stopped appearing. actually i'd like them back in my case :) but, yup there is no mod that either disables or re-enables this. as far as i got it right, they are radiant quests. only seem to find this mod which disables all radiant quests per faction thus overkill. and i'm not sure if the "defend checkpoint" is faction related.

so what happened/changed with your fallout 4 installation or NMM during that week?

odd. i had something similar with two water generators (at Nuka World Settlement, if important). connected but delivering no water. my player also said "its seems to be working" when activating it. storing them to the workshop and placing them anew, solved it in my case as well.

what kind of mods do you use? googling about it leads me to mods doing exact that. for example: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/15203/ http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/85/ but i assume you would know installing something like that. maybe some other mod has a hidden feature or overwrites the work- chem- and cooking stations leading to such behavior?

did some googling about "Fallout 4 stopped working" and stubled upon this topics: https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/496881136907907722/ http://help.bethesda.net/app/answers/detail/a_id/31648/~/what-do-i-do-if-fallout-4-is-crashing-with-the-error-%E2%80%9Cfallout-4-has-stopped https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/3s8tef/fallout_4_has_stopped_working/ most common approach all have is to update your grafic driver or tweak the grafic settings. * you may check if it happens on lower res * windowed mode or just the opposite if you got that.

don't call me settler has serious issues. it can break your settlement and related scripts. settlement managing software: you would need to go to the settlement anyway and manage the people. i think Cypher40000 wants to bypass that completely - go to a settlement, build it up and "bye-bye manage yourself settlers". i'm using sim settlements. but you would need to rebuild your settlement with.