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Hm. Do you get the same problems when you start a new game with Dawnguard unchecked? And you can use a spoiler tag for whenever you want to post a load order or a papyrus log.

And when you deleted everything that included your Skyrim.ini and Skyrimprefs.ini right? Just making sure.

I don't know of an actual crash log. You can use the papyrus log to try and help pinpoint it, but it is NOT a crash log.

When you reinstalled, did you delete all Skyrim related data from your pc? By that I mean go into your steam folder and delete the Skyrim folder, then install Skyrim again. If not try doing that, and verify the game cache via steam.

Is this happening on a new game or on an old save?

What do you want the mod to do? You really need to be specific.

Even if you uncheck the esps the data is still in your game. And many mods, including but not limited to most texture mods, don't use esps. Your best bet is to actually go and deactivate all your active mods if you want to have a surefire way of making your backup save stable.

@insanityman Thanks, I downloaded Fraps and I'm gonna see how it does. :) @Thath Well I did say that... but yeah, my point was that I know how to take screenshots, I was just wondering if there was a way to take them with loss-less quality.

I know some people may throw tomatoes at me for this, but I'd just like to post some of my thoughts, agreements, and disagreements. I also know that there are mods that try to fix some of what I mention about Skyrim, but this is about what I would like to see in the new game when it comes out, vanilla style. (As I'm typing this I'm realizing its far longer than I anticipated, sorry in advance and thanks if you actually read the 'wall of text') 1. Combat THE PROBLEM In my mind, the combat system ended up being sorta a big letdown for me. DON'T THROW THE TOMATOES YET I'M NOT FINISHED. I am in no way saying the system is bad; on the contrary I enjoyed it very much...for my first play-through or two. But honestly, it got really stale fairly quickly. It just doesn't feel fluid at all; the variation just isn't there. I know part of this is due to the type of system they have, where there aren't skills, and it goes for a very "realistic" kind of combat. But after playing it for awhile, it ends up not feeling realistic at all. You start at level 1 with your base skills, and at level 40 with one-handed at 100 all perked out you are still doing the same "chop, chop at a slightly different angle, chop at another slightly different angle, etc." Sure you get a few killmoves that try to spice it up a bit, but those are just set animations that play out at the end of your engagement with that enemy, not actual moves you the player executes. You don't feel fluid in combat, your interaction with enemies in combat is on a very simple, "don't think to much" level (the outcome of the battle is determined by simple level differences and/or resorting to immersion breaking tactics such as jumping onto a rock and shooting arrows at the guy standing below you, while he looks up and yells about how he is going to kill you), and the lack of variation just ends up being a huge disappointment. And this lack of variation in what you are doing seems to be the worst. I don't know if you have noticed this, but your one-handed animations are all the same, regardless of what type of weapon you are using. Same with your two-handed. And that really doesn't sit right with me. If you fight with a sword, you are going to have a COMPLETELY different technique from someone fighting with a mace or an axe. It shouldn't look the same, and it definately shouldn't feel the same. (Literally the only thing they changed was swing speed; and instituted a simple scale for base attack power and weight.) THE WISH Now to be perfectly honest, I do have a great love for action based games where combat is a prime focus, and can enjoy a game for its combat and visuals alone even if the rest of the game is just meh (for instance I loved the rpg Kingdoms of Amalur, and poured TONS of time into the mmorpg TERA, all because the combat systems were fantastic.) I also understand why a system like that would be very hard to implement when you have a game that many people (myself included) play primarily in first person, and if it came to chucking first person to implement a great combat system, or if all they could do was make small improvements to the current one instead to be able to keep first person mode, I would be truly torn as to what I would want. But I think at the very least something along the lines of The Witcher 2 would be possible (time consuming and probably a total pain in the ass, but still possible) to implement in both first and third person. 2. Class System (or lack thereof) This might actually surprise you, but I really don't have many problems with the leveling and lack of a class system in Skyrim. Why? Because I like freedom and for a game to NOT limit what I can do or the direction I can go with my character. If I want to build my character a certain way I don't want a game limiting me or making me unable to create the character I want. WANT TO KNOW THE BIG THING SKYRIM GAVE YOU THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE KICKING AND SCREAMING ABOUT? The answer is simple: choice. THE POINT Why should a game like Skyrim limit your character from being able to be a master thief, mage, warrior, archer, alchemist, enchanter, smith, etc., all at the same time, or any combination of those? If you want to make a mage who steals things and crafts heavy armor and greatswords in their sparetime, you can do it. And I find that awesome. And guys, guess what. If you want to make a classic, thief style character, guess what: YOU CAN. Even in vanilla Skyrim, you TOTALLY can. Want to do the same for a mage? How about a warrior? Guess what, more good news: you can totally do that. Its simple too! All you have to do is pick the skills that you want to use and build your character around said skills (which you probably have already done.) If you dont think your mage should steal things and craft heavy armor in their sparetime, you totally don't have to have your mage do any of that, and you don't need the game to do it for you. So no, in the new TES game, I don't want straight, set classes for me to have to pick and chose between. A self built character in my opinion is a much better way to play, and one that you can develop how you want as you play. THE DISCLAIMER Now, I am in NO way saying that they gave you complete choice and freedom, and at many times you do feel like you have to make a certain choice or play a certain way. And I really hate those situations. (The Parth' problem, or the fact that if you didnt by chance happen to talk to the Bee and Barb barkeep you had to join the thieves guild to advance the mainquest. I'm not saying that the game should hold your hand, but there should be more fleshed out options for you to take.) Also, I've seen mention in this thread of npcs lacking in variation of combatstyles/tactics. And you probably guessed it: Yep, I want more variation in npc combat AI, and for in game characters to feel unique. (On a side, only slightly related note: I also REALLY want more than a handful of voice actors. More *cough*VARIATION*cough* would be great.) 3. Graphics THE PLEASE Well this is kinda a no brainer. Of course they will have nicer looking graphics in the next game. As far as texture resolutions go, a little higher res vanilla textures would be nice, but its not a huge concern for me. The only real beef I have with vanilla graphics is the lighting. I swear, if they upgrade nothing else, at least, for the love of all mankind, come out with a better vanilla lighting system. Please. You have no idea how much please. But I promise it's a lot of please. Please. (No but seriously, the straight vanilla game with nothing modded but a good enb thrown in does so much for the game; it makes it look worlds better. So this should be a sign that there is room for major improvement in this department.) 4. Location THE SQUEAL I have no idea what it should be actually, but I'm SOO excited for whatever it is. Honestly, I can't wait to travel to a new part of Tamriel; it's one of my most anticipated parts of the new TES game. And well... I SORTA have an idea of what they could do...it would be bold...it would be awesome...it would be incredibly expensive to make...it would be Tamriel. What's that? You read right. I want to play in Tamriel. I.E. each country and location mentioned in the lore of Tamriel, I want to go and play there. I know this won't happen. But when I think back to the good old Pokemon days where I thoroughly enjoyed red, blue, and yellow, and couldn't wait for the next installment, only to find out that not only did I get to enjoy and explore the new area but also the area I knew and loved? That was awesome. And it's something we would all love to see from a TES game. Even though it won't happen. 5. Variation THE SURPRISE Oh look, after spending half my stupid post talking about this, I feel the need to make an entire section based on it; how surprised are you right now? But in all honesty, I think this is something not just me, but most TES fans and gamers in general really wish for in TES and their other games. But let's just look at Skyrim for an example. In fact, let's pull out the big guns first. Let's look at Skyrim's factions. Yep, I went there; bet you didn't see that coming. In Skyrim, between all the factions you can join and be apart of, there is only one group that opposes each other directly that you can join either faction and fight the other, and that is of course the civil war group. (I don't count the Greybeards and Blades as opposing factions that the player has to choose between; the only choice comes near the end of the mainquest. And while having different views, they weren't openly opposed to each other, they just didn't like the other's way of doing things.) We get to join the companions and go around taking care of problems, small and large, but we don't get the option to play as a bandit-based faction, or in the sliverhand faction. We can join the thieves guild and go around stealing everyone's sweet rolls, but we don't get any options to join a Riften guard faction, or a united citizens against the thieves guild type faction. We can join the dark brotherhood, and while we ARE given the choice to oppose them and destroy it, its a simple "Oh, you found them? Okay, go take care of a guild of legendary assassins in their own home base and kill them all. Done? Cool, thanks." There isn't an actual, fully fleshed out questline, and you can't join the penitus oculotus faction. On a related note, each of the major actions you take should have a real and lasting impact on the world, aside from the random guard making a casual comment about how you slew alduin and saved the world. After all these main quests, faction quests, etc., the world didn't FEEL any different afterwards. Some of what you do in the game should honestly send a shock throughout all of Tamriel, and yet even in Skyrim where all of this took place, nobody knows or really cares about anything. I mean honestly. You can ASSASSINATE THE EMPEROR, GO TO BED, WAKE UP THE NEXT MORNING, AND NOBODY GIVES A WOLF PELT. Seriously, even when you talk to the other dark brotherhood members about it they are only impressed. Impressed. You just killed one of the most powerful men in all of Tamriel, and secured a huge sum of gold for the deed; they should be freaking out that you pulled this off. And finally, a variation in the choices you can make. In Skyrim, the hardest choice you had to make was whether or not to kill Parth', which is one of the only reasons I don't view it as a fault in the game. It's the only REALLY hard choice you have to make. (Although the lack of closure for if you decide not to kill him is insanely annoying; there should be a quest option where you officially decide not to and it ends the quest.) I mean, if they made a very difficult, pain-in-the-arse way for you to spare him and still be friendly with the two factions, I could buy that. But the fact that other than that I don't have to make any choices that have serious consequences on both ends really adds to that feeling of not having any affect on the world. And seeing as you are the savior of the world, and people seem to know it and casually mention it every once in awhile, that hurts a little. *tears up a bit* Anyway, thanks for reading my 2 cents...or more like $7.35. Wow that ended up being long. But seriously, if only one of these hopes comes true, please for the love of everything let it either be a better combat system or a better lighting system. Please. So many pleases.

Heya everybody, I was wondering about the different ways to take screenshots in game. Is there a way to take a screenshot with perfect quality? (I'm not referring to screenshot techniques, I'm talking about the actual quality of the image.) For instance, when you open the console and type tm, you get a clear, perfectly still visual. When I use f12 (steam screenshot function) and go look at my screen, the quality isn't the same. It isn't horrible, but its not the crystal clear image you see in game (it has jaggies and what not). I have heard and seen examples where the image quality is what you see in game, but I have yet to figure out how to do that. If anyone could enlighten me it would make my day. Regardless, thanks for taking the time to read my humble inquiry :smile:

And, once again, prod comes in for the win! I installed the optional 2048 LOD and, like you anticipated, it works fine now. Thanks so much; I really doubt I would have ever pinpointed it to that. :smile:

What mods have you installed in between the time it was 30-60 and now? Mods WILL have an effect on performance, especially mods that use high resolution textures, add lots of things to the environment, use scripts, etc. And if you are using an ENB, you probably don't have to look much further. Try a different one with better performance.

I have been having trouble with a recurring problem that has happened with multiple saves at the same spot. Every time I try to leave Markarth, the loading screen...well, doesn't stop loading. The screen doesn't freeze, it doesn't crash, it just keeps trying to load...forever. I've tried disabling most of my mods that use scripts, tested it on new save games, and keep getting the same problem. Other than that my game is pretty stable; I just re-installed not too long ago and really cleaned up my load order, but I keep getting this problem. Here is my load order: Here is my Papyrus.0 To get out of the unending loading screen I had to ctrl alt del and end the process. If anyone can help me out I would greatly appreciate it; I'm out of ideas. And remember, it ONLY happens when leaving the city of Markarth, entering is fine, entering buildings inside of the city and exiting them is fine, but when I'm in Markarth and try to leave via the gate or fast travel out I get the infinite loading screen.

Nevermind guys, don't worry about it. #deactivatingalltheactivemods :wallbash: :ohdear:

Hey guys, I have this bug where I will find some npcs out in random places where they are not supposed to be, and missing from their usual spot. For instance, after using the "attacked and left for dead option" from Alternate Start: Live Another Life, I spawned in the Morthal swamp. I wandered around exploring a bit, and came across Uthgerd the Unbroken in the middle of fighting several wild animals, and before I could get to her she died. Thinking that it was a weird, one time thing, I resurrected her using the console, and went on my way to Windhelm. When I got there, I noticed right away something was wrong again. In the discourse between the dark elf woman and the two nord men harassing her, one of the men was missing. The discourse continued as normal, but without the missing npc's lines. I can only assume he was missing as well and/or dead in the wild. I'm only posting this here to see if anyone has had a similar problem/mod conflict and can tell me what it was and/or what they did to fix it. As far as nailing the problem through going through my load order and what not, I going to try to do that myself; I think it's only right to post it on the forums and ask for others to go through your load order and what not IF you have exhausted every available option yourself, short of uninstalling every mod one by one. So thanks for reading, and if you have had a similar issue let me know about it and what caused it; in the meantime I'm going to keep working at it. :ermm: