Tamujiin

I didnt post this for people who know what they are doing, and basically you dont know my entire load order. My thread is specifically based at people that dont know what they are doing. Hence putting it in the Oblivion trouble shooting. Read my Entire thread. Its all The more popular mods, More than UL+FCOM+BBC. Using wyre bash specific esp's are merged in the patch. Im not trying to prove to you or anybody anything except to new people that it can be done. So if you dont have anything to contribute to the thread, dont post here. So with that everything isnt posted for the pro's you know. It would be good to remember that.

Im going to make a youtube video to prove all this works together, ill post a link when it is completed.

Natural_Weather_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Weather_HDR_2.1.3_coloroverride.esp.esp Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tae_CO_RD.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp Get rid o that amigo, and go Weather-All Natural, as Natural weather is bugged, but all natural has Natural weather built in and isnt bugged :)

Need More info, like your load order with FCOM, and stuff, when you say FCOM it could have been installed wrong. Or it could be another issue with your load order.

You need to get BOSS, Better Oblivion Sorting Software, run that and it will fix your issue. DLCThievesDen.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp Knights.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp The UOPmods patches should be under there respective DLC, thats how i know you dont have BOSS.

yeah, dont be afraid to experiment :)

Did you ever try the universial skeleton? Corona's? ive got Lost spires and about 200 other mods, and ive never seen that.

If your gonna mess around with races and such try using cobl, and get wrye bash it helps. What that is saying is you have a conflict with one mod adding eyes, and another doing the same.

Are you using the HGEC OMOD? are you using the Installer for the hi rez HGEC skin OMOD? Little bit more info needed, like load order and stuff.

Your having way to many mod conflicts, i would start over and do the FCOM install first. Then install each mod one at a time and test. Your never gonna get your game running with a load order like that.

You got help, you chose to ignore it, and called the people helping you dicks. So with that good sir, i say to you GOOD DAY SIR!

MY OBLIVION LOAD ORDER! Oblivion.esm All Natural Base.esm Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm Cobl Main.esm Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Mart's Monster Mod.esm FCOM_Convergence.esm Armamentarium.esm Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm Kvatch Rebuilt.esm Better Cities Resources.esm CM Partners.esm ScreenEffects.esm HorseCombatMaster.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Better Cities .esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp All Natural.esp All Natural - SI.esp OBGE - Liquid Water.esp All Natural - Real Lights.esp WindowLightingSystem.esp ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp RAEVWD Cities.esp RAEVWD Imperial City.esp ScreenControls.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp Drake Knight Armor and Weapons v1.0.esp Dread Knight Armor.esp EY_BM_Armory.esp KDCirclets.esp New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp TT-EquipableBeardsLEVELEDLIST.esp Underworld Armor.esp Warglaives by Jojjo v1.0.esp AncientTowers.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp Cobl Glue.esp Cobl Si.esp Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp FCOM_BobsArmory.esp Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp Oblivion WarCry EV.esp FCOM_WarCry.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp Hemingweys Capes Improved for FCOM.esp OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp FCOM_Convergence.esp Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp T.I.E4MODS.esp OOO-WaterFish.esp Abriael_Human.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCfrostcrag.esp FrostcragRebornCobl.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp The Lost Spires.esp Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp xuldarkforest.esp LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp xulStendarrValley.esp xulTheHeath.esp XulEntiusGorge.esp xulFallenleafEverglade.esp LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp xulChorrolHinterland.esp xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp xulBravilBarrowfields.esp xulLushWoodlands.esp xulAncientYews.esp xulAncientRedwoods.esp xulCloudtopMountains.esp xulArriusCreek.esp xulPatch_AY_AC.esp xulRollingHills_EV.esp xulPantherRiver.esp xulRiverEthe.esp xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp xulImperialIsle.esp xulBlackwoodForest.esp xulCheydinhalFalls.esp KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp xulAspenWood.esp xulSkingradOutskirts.esp xulSnowdale.esp ApachiiHeroesStore-Snowdale patch.esp FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp OOO-Snowdale patch.esp xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp xulJerallGlacier.esp OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp xulTheEasternPeaks.esp AncientTowers-EasternPeaks patch.esp Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp MidasSpells.esp RenGuardOverhaul.esp RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp Oblivion XP.esp CM Partners.esp Elves Of Lineage II.esp CM Partners Special NPCs.esp CM Partners NPC.esp CM Partners More NPCs.esp CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp Cobl Races.esp Better Cities Full.esp Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp Better Imperial City.esp Better Cities - All Natural.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp Better Cities - COBL.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp Bashed Patch.esp Conan Swords - Atlantean Fur Scabbard.esp UVII.esp Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp DRSplatter.esp Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp Tools used, Wrye Bash, OBMM, and BOSS. It can be done, no bugs, 1. My rule of thumb. READ THE READ ME OF THE MOD. 2. Install, TEST, Troubleshoot, INSTALL NEXT MOD, ECT. My rig is an AMD QUADCORE with an AMD raedon 6250 HD graphics card. 6gb of ram. Only tweak to the ini was the quadcore tweak. I use WEOCP, FAST exit 2, AND Oblivion stutter remover as OBSE plugins. Im around, if you have issues, you can either, post your load order here or in a personnal message and ill help you fix your game. My game does not crash, as far as i can tell. i have been playing it off and on for 2 days for hours at a time, with no sleep. the only thing that crashed was me. If i find bugs ill add em in an edit or new post. Conan Swords - Atlantean Fur Scabbard.esp that is an unidetified mod according to BOSS, but its a cool sword mod. Feel Free to use this as a guide. I installed FCOM using this guide here - http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1197195-relz-fcom-convergence-and-ufcom-relz/ - FROM A CLEAN INSTALL. Then i installed Better citys, and i merged the ESP's into one (omod version). Most other major mods were OMODs or OMOD READY. Whemn i could i would go with an omod. Have fun :) Tamujiin. P.S, this is a dummed down load order, DONT follow it as a guide, as wrye bash deactivates and merges certain ESP's and they are not on this list, even though you need to install them. The version of wrye bash i used is located here, -http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368- i used the stand alone version. EDIT: i have installed OBGE v3, liquid water, and some other smaller mods. Im done screwing around with oblivion. everything major on the nexus is included in my modded game. It can be done. Just add mods wisely. EDIT 2: i have installed deadly reflex 6 and unecessary violence 2.

The issue stems from you not installing your mods correctly. Did you merge the data folders and check the esps? or are you Using NMM to download? What you can do is, reinstall your mods the manual way by MERGING the data files, if you did it correctly it will ask you to merge Data, meshes, and textures on a regular mod if using Fomm alone. Posting your load order if you can would help also. If you can, by meaning i understand you are having issues with FOMM not working.

Boss tells me nothing. Tes4edit tells me nothing. I guess my question is.. Am i missing an FCOM convergance file? or a frans file? I followed a crappy link to an FCOM install, and yeah. Keeps crashing. I cant figure out if its either of these two problems. The reason why the link is crappy, is because it never stated, that i needed to dl a couple of .BSA files. Which i did. So i guess i need someone to see if i missed something. And the wyre bash says nothing and everything is good. Oblivion.esm All Natural Base.esm Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm Cobl Main.esm Open Cities Resources.esm Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Mart's Monster Mod.esm FCOM_Convergence.esm Armamentarium.esm Better Cities Resources.esm HorseCombatMaster.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Better Cities .esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp All Natural.esp All Natural - SI.esp Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp All Natural - Real Lights.esp Enhanced Economy.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp AncientTowers.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Cobl Glue.esp Cobl Si.esp Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp FCOM_BobsArmory.esp Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp Oblivion WarCry EV.esp FCOM_WarCry.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp FCOM_Convergence.esp FCOM_RealSwords.esp Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp OOO-WaterFish.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCfrostcrag.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp xuldarkforest.esp xulStendarrValley.esp xulTheHeath.esp XulEntiusGorge.esp xulFallenleafEverglade.esp xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp xulChorrolHinterland.esp xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp xulBravilBarrowfields.esp xulLushWoodlands.esp xulAncientYews.esp xulAncientRedwoods.esp xulCloudtopMountains.esp xulArriusCreek.esp xulPatch_AY_AC.esp xulRollingHills_EV.esp xulPantherRiver.esp xulRiverEthe.esp xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp xulImperialIsle.esp xulBlackwoodForest.esp xulCheydinhalFalls.esp xulAspenWood.esp xulSkingradOutskirts.esp xulSnowdale.esp FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp OOO-Snowdale patch.esp xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp xulJerallGlacier.esp OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp xulTheEasternPeaks.esp AncientTowers-EasternPeaks patch.esp Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp Open Cities New Sheoth.esp Open Cities Outer Districts.esp Open Cities Reborn.esp Better Cities - Open Cities Reborn.esp OCR+ULCH Patch.esp OCR+ULBWForest Patch.esp OCR+Cheydinhal Falls Patch.esp OCR+ULSkingradOutskirts Patch.esp Better Cities - House price patch.esp Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp MidasSpells.esp Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp Oblivion XP.esp Cobl Races.esp Better Cities Full.esp Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp Better Imperial City.esp Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp Better Cities - All Natural.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp Bashed Patch.esp Heres my load order, i could use some help. Edit: Found it :) Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp Edit: Well, That wasnt it.....

Yo im Tamujiin, and i thought this idea for a post would be awsome, Pets, anything about them, real world pets, Nano pets whatever. I got two dogs and two fish Spike and jake, to little terrier muts, good lil guys, the fish ( i dont know there names, they change daily around here ) A beta and a goldfish ( seperate bowls yes. ) I shared recently in the discovery of the fact that i thinks pets should be able to get the same healthcare availability as pet owners. Is there such thing as pet insurance? Is there such thing as a vet that may actually FIND OUT what is wrong with your pet? Those are my current "things" i would like to say about "pets". Feel free to share pictures and what not. I used to have an iguana, i used to have a snake, so anything goes here. Share em if you Care for em! Another thing that i wonder about and this also prompted to make this topic, How come when you look up medications for your animal,not one place shows the possible side effects of that particular drug?

True Story- I used to be the worlds biggest jackass, jerk, violent meanest prick ever, i beat people up, and i put people down. One day i found myself going to my work to get a paycheck that was 24 dollars only to buy a pack of ciggarettes, i was riding as the passenger in the car ( it was snowing out ), and the driver lost control of the car and my side got torn away from the car, I broke my shoulder got a cut on my leg and my little finger has a screw holding it together now. A few things i realized in the hospital bed i was in. ( 3 day stay ) 1. Im depressed ( i had issues that made me that way, going through a divorce sucks ) 2. Im being a general prick to everyone 3. I WANT TO CHANGE IT. Lets just say i did, I got out of the hospital, first thing i did was see how much my paycheck was. That set me right the $%^& off, because you know i thought at that time my life was worth more than $24. What im trying to say in less than a novel size post, if you want to feel better about life and what not, don't wait till you get plowed, getting plowed doesnt fix anything. Change whats wrong in your life, for yourself. First thing of being depressed is a feeling of dependance on something or someone ( at the time i was dependant on my father, i was living with him. He and i never got along and where never close, least we tried. ) If someone is doing or saying something or ruining your life you have all the free will and right to say "go suck an egg". If they dont it is harrassment. Protect yourself from what makes you depressed by acting upon it. If your job sucks, do everybody a favor you work with and quit because it is obviously hurting them that you dont like what you are doing, expecially if they do. if its finacial problems, well welcome to the 21st century, most of us have them. grow a garden If its anything else, GET AS FAR AWAY FROM IT AS POSSIBLE. Distant yourself from shtuff that makes you upset, there isnt anything else more important in this world except YOU! Remember those words. Remember, YOU CAN ALWAYS DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. ALWAYS. Further reading in your post i didnt see you were 17, then i looked at yer profile....17 is the greatest age of being depressed. Trust me i was exactly where you were at 17, no means of transportation, no girlfriend, everybody i knew, talked behind my back ( which everybody does, one of the mysteries of the world i guess eh? ) i litterally sat in a dark room with one lamp by myself playing final Fantasy 7 like an entire year, ( yeah i played others too but not as much ). If its some bull crap that you have done trust me, people forget stuff, even if they say they dont. Unless of course you know you did some really idiot stuff like murder, or what not, cause the federallies never forget....never. LOL :) If you do need a vent and dont want to share it with the world, fell free to PM, all i can say ill do is listen. you have been around long time keanu, dont let stuff get you down. When i am down ( i am human ) i come here. Ill always come here. Unless you know i get banned or something. ( fyi i now dont have a job, all i do is play games, my Laptop that has all my important stuff blew up, i pay child support, my kids birthday is tomorrow and we dont have any BBQ sauce for the chicken, but you know what, im the happiest person ever cause i got everthing i need, a great wife a smart lilttle young daughter, and great friends, because i chose friends that were respected ( mostly MMA fighters but yeah ) and if yer younger than 30 and want that stuff and dont have it yet, it will come to you trust me. )

Im Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaack again! 1. I like bud light platnium. 2. I like regular old budweiser better. 3. I like chocolate. 4. I LIKE MY NEW RIG THE BEST!

Did it have a store up top in megaton ( in a blimp or something )? http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=17478 This sounds like it, but this is what threw me to the point, so 'ill see if it works good enough.

In my previous modded fallout 3 game, ( new computer ) i had added a mod that gave an assault rifle that had a scope, was silenced and could switch between a grenade launcher, and a semi auto and full auto, i cant remeber the name of the mod, or if there is something similar, could some one please point me in the right direction. I know its not FWE, WMK, EVE, apocolypse armory, or any of the AR-14/15 mods. ect. It may have been xcalibr, but i read that mod got removed. Any help would be appreciated.

Heres a link to a good how to by me, Remeber if you want to stop CTD's disable V-sync first. And everytime you add a new mod make a new merged patch. http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/379635-fallout-3-load-order-perfected/ I am redoing it myself, but with the knowledge you seek, so far no bugs.

Did you mess with FWE settings? you can set it to unlimited followers and turn the karma check off, i would recommend underground hideout, or the one with katanas, ( cant remeber name )? What would help is knowing what mods you have. My fallout experiance is everything but boring. Do you use eve? another thing you can do is look for house mods that say companion friendly.

I dont mean to revive my dead thread, But instead of starting a new one, about the same thing, i figured it would be better to work off of this one, as its the same thing, I am totally redoing this as of march 22 2012, as i got a new rig, ( which doesnt suck BTW!) and i will post my NEW load order as i notice some of these mods are not around any more, I will attempt to use the fallout 3 version of wrye bash, ( but keeping in mind i didnt use it at all ) I will also be doing something similar for New Vegas, and skyrim, ( if need be as i havent even installed skyrim due to buying it for my 360 first, yeah thats where ive been!) I may attempt to delve into dragon age also. So with that i say adue, until my next edit of this post :) I apologize if reviving this thread offends anyone. EDIT: new load order as of March 22, 2012 Testing bugs, havent noticed much, got some more to add. [X] Fallout3.esm [X] Anchorage.esm [X] ThePitt.esm [X] StreetLights.esm [X] BrokenSteel.esm [X] PointLookout.esm [X] Zeta.esm [X] TalonExtraArmor.esm [X] CRAFT.esm [X] CALIBR.esm [X] xCALIBR.esm [X] Project Beauty.esm [X] Mothership Crew.esm [X] EVE.esm [X] Apocalypse Armory.esm [X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm [X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm [X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm [X] DCInteriors_SideQuests.esm [X] My Utility World.esm [X] SShop.esm [X] MyUtilityWorld.esp [X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp [X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp [X] Overhead3PCamera.esp [X] CONELRAD 640-1240.esp [X] Existence2.0.esp [X] Fellout-Anchorage.esp [X] Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp [X] Fellout-pipboylight.esp [X] Fellout-PointLookout.esp [X] Fellout-Zeta.esp [X] Fellout-Full.esp [X] PersonalTerminal.esp [X] DCInteriors_DLC_Collectables.esp [X] LevelersChamber.esp [X] MiniHideout.esp [X] Apocalypse Armory.esp [X] Apocalypse Armory - CALIBR.esp [X] Apocalypse Armory - xCALIBR.esp [X] Apocalypse Armory - DLC Enhancements.esp [X] Apocalypse Armory - Optional Historical Names.esp [X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp [X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp [X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp [X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp [X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp [X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp [X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp [X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp [X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp [X] WeaponModKits.esp [X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp [X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp [X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp [X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp [X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp [X] ZL-ACR.esp [X] DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp [X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp [X] GasMask.esp [X] MaxJacket.esp [X] camouflage uniform.esp [X] 20000 Caps.esp [X] JackoMilitaryEquipment1.esp [X] Persona_and_Secret.esp [X] RaiderPowerArmor_no_lvl.esp [X] EVE.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Soft Unleveler.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Dynamic Player Scaling.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp [X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp [X] ACRForFWE.esp [X] SariDPoses.esp [X] Apocalypse Armory - CRAFTing.esp [X] EVE Operation Anchorage.esp [X] EVE - FWE Master Release.esp [X] EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp [X] EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp [X] EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp [X] Apocalypse Armory + EVE.esp [X] xCALIBRammo_FWE.esp [X] Compatibility_Plugin_TalonExtraArmor_FWE_BrokenSteel.esp [X] Compatibility Plugin00 TalonCo & Marts.esp [X] Apocalypse Armory + WMK.esp [X] T6M Equipment Replacer.esp [X] T6M Equipment Replacer for DLC.esp [X] Colossus Hvy Armor.esp [X] Colossus Outcast.esp [X] colossus BOS.esp [X] Colossus Headgear.esp [X] COL Enclave VER2.esp [X] SShopItems.esp [X] NAPA.esp [X] FO3 Combat Realism - Vanilla.esp [X] merged 47.esp

Anyway, i looked here to see how the community in general feels about these epically failed bills, because, the bills will be re-written, and re-introduced to the house and senate in the fall, im not posting this to debate it. What im looking for is a broad opinion base. Speak your opinion, and as the starter of the topic, please respect peoples opinion. Dont attack them. Some Facts: 1. Piracy is illegal, and it costs, the entertainment industries Billions of dollars a year. 2. The government censoring the internet is infringing on our consitutional rights. My opinion, its a hard discussion. But i think we all need to have it. Keep on topic, don't go into they do this or that elsewhere. Is there a way to stop internet piracy? If they written the bill better would it be worth it? I think there should be a time limit on these things, for instance, games that no longer are supported, they should be available to download, if not for free a reasonable price. example: gog.com ( in the bills the government had a right to censor this site. ) A deep down inside feeling is, i think the government wants everybody to get a credit card. :) Someone should invent an atm like kiosk you can insert money into and put it onto your paypal account. No credit card needed. Hopefully this isnt against site rules, i havent been around in awhile.

Very, Very good. Whoever is singing should be doing it for $$$. Good job on the ukelele.