Kraeten Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) Alright, this should be a pretty simple discussion. I'm going to ask a question, and you'll answer by using the poll. Any other posts or comments are of course welcome. What I must ask however, is that you do NOT flame the mod author of the mod being discussed. That's not how we should go about this as a community nor as mature adults/young adults. Okay, now onto the question. Do you honestly and seriously believe a nude body-replacer should be able to use the lore-friendly tag? Specifically the one linked in parenthesis below? (http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/36992//?) Now you may be wondering why this is a question that really needs to be asked. It needs to be asked, because this mod could be setting an uncomfortable precedent. It's tagged as lore friendly. Armor mods WILL be released for this body-replacer. What does this mean? It means the Lore-Friendly tag may be rendered completely useless in the near future. If you like the idea of search tags being effective, I trust you'll vote no on the top poll question. Thank you for your time. Edited June 9, 2013 by Kraeten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mycoturge Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I'm not sure about the first question.. I have mixed feelings about it. I don't think something that is nude is right off lore-unfriendly in itself, but specific if not most body mods are. I'm not saying the nexus is completely devoid of lore-friendly body mods, thankfully there are a few that actually fit the criteria. If someone wants to make a lore-friendly body mod that is fit to be put in the lore-friendly tag for mods, they should really take their time to see how the human body works, regardless of whether they're making a lithe figure or a body that fits a warrior, realism doesn't have to be limited to buff bodies. There are a lot of athletic body types on the nexus, but most of these are made in a way that the characters look like they've spent months pumping their muscles for a cosmetic look in a modern-day gym to basically look hot. That's not lore-friendly athletic. This is a touchy subject, obviously people can chose to use whatever body type they want, and I'm glad for the many choices available on the nexus, not every character is a battle-hardened warrior with the body of a warrior. In short though, I do believe nude body replacers should be allowed in the lore-friendly tag. My only wish is that people were a bit more keen on studying the human body and really finding out if their mod fit the criteria before tagging it as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyro Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I voted No and Yes. The reason why I voted no in "do you believe a nude body replacer is lore-friendly" is because from Morrowind onwards, there has been no nudity in the games. I'm not mistaking "lore-friendly" for "realistic", because sure, nude bodies are realistic, but nude bodies aren't lore-friendly in the (recent) Elder Scrolls games. It is entirely subjective though, because you can't really define naked bodies as lore-friendly or not lore-friendly, so I don't really suppose it matters if the mod is tagged with it or not. And I voted yes in "aren't two sexy/nude search tags already enough" because, quite frankly, there isn't much more you could cover with tags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGMage2 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 On the first question I would say a body mod is not relevant to lore and vice versa. However, we have 2 tags for lore - Lore-Friendly and Not Lore-Friendly, and since a body mod would not be unfriendly to lore I don't see anything wrong with tagging it as Lore-Friendly. Second question doesn't make much sense. Are you suggesting that from all the available tags only 2 would be appropriate for that mod? And you are probably thinking Not Safe For Work and Nudity, where as the first tags I would put on that mod would be Replacer and Body Models with additional tags being Nudity and Not Safe For Work. If the author wanted to add the Lore-Friendly tag that would be fine too, because it is a human body and therefore Lore Friendly. As for the tagging system being corrupted by tagging this as Lore-Friendly because of future armor and clothing releases for this mod, I don't see any reason for concern there. The tagging of those future releases will be independent of the tagging on the base body. It will be up to the authors of those future releases to tag their files appropriately based on what exactly they are releasing. You asked for opinions and I gave you mine, your welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayFrosty05 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Though I am certainly an advocate of realism in my game and thus insist on using Nude Body Mods...they may all be 'body beautiful', but it's certainly a step up from glued on underwear....I do not feel a Nude Body Mod has a place under the Lore Friendly Tag. I don't particularly give a damn about Lore Friendly personally, my interest is in 'Realism', not 'Lore'...but funnily enough, the fact that a Nude Body Mod has been tagged as Lore Friendly is really irking me...it's just another overly perfect, flawless Nude Women Mod, no different to CBBE, UNP, CHSBHC, etc...I see the Arena picture, but am still not sure why the Author would consider this Mod Lore Tag worthy...Funny that it irks me so much, considering my lack of interest in 'Lore'...I think because the Lore Followers may click on the link expecting one thing and finding something completely different....simply 'Don't be a car Salesman...Don't try to fleece people with misleading Tags'. As for are there enough search tags already?....Yes, I believe there are, people just need to be more discerning and not need their hand held at every step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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