kape001 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 So I'm fairly new to modding BGS games. I'm awared that load order can affects stability and if not performance. But I still can't get it, how does load order actually works when I start the game? Does load order have to do with the problems I faced below?My Fallout 4 mod list is around 250 mods, overall I'm quite happy with the results and performance. But I did came across some issues:There's a mod called "Kill Tips & Hit sound", it basically add hit sound and prompt UI tip when you get a kill. Although it worked as intended, I often found that the sound and UI prompt are delayed(mostly about 3-5 sec).Pip-boy is really laggy on DATA tab(where the quest is showed).I tried disabling every pip-boy related mods, but no luck.Sometimes game crashes while I start to shoot on enimies, have no idea what is causing this issue.Below I will post my mod list. I use MO2. //Main GamesFallout4.esmDLCRobot.esmDLCworkshop01.esmDLCCoast.esmDLCworkshop02.esmDLCworkshop03.esmDLCNukaWorld.esm//Main patches and some overhauls + ESMs that stick topUnofficial Fallout 4 Patch.espAAF.esmArmorKeywords.esmTortureDevices.esmDevious Devices.esmCWSS Redux.espSettlementKeywords.esmTrueStormsFO4.esmAAFThemes.eslWashOutThatCum.eslBememoth Separated Cart.eslBodyTalk3-RaiderNormalsFix.eslHUDFramework.esmOptimized Vanilla Textures.espLooksMenu.espBodyTalk3-LooksMenu.espCBBE.espAWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.espReverb and Ambiance Overhaul.espArmorsmith Extended.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.espTrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.espTrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.espTrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.espTrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.espESPExplorerFO4.espGetDirty.espAkaWaterWorld(Build your own pool).espQuieter Settlements - Vanilla.espQuieter Settlements - Contraptions.espQuieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.espSSEX(Settlement Supply Expansion).espFog Remover II (AIO) Combo 2.3.espVivid Waters.espInsignificant Object Remover.espWetness Shader Fix.espdD-Enhanced Blood Basic.espdD - Small Splatter Size.espdD - Limited Blood Decals.espFO4 Seasons - Winter - AllDLC.espQuazVehicleOverhaul.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espFAR(Faraway Object Reform).espDialogue Camera Sensitivity.esp3rd Person Cam SmallFix.espdcc-palock(Take Your Cores).espPA-Quick Animations.espPowerArmorDelivery.espLooksMenu Customization Compendium.espAsianFace.espTHBrows.espThe Eyes Of Beauty.espKSHairdos.espAzarPonytailHairstyles.espLewdMarks.espSlaveTattoos.espCumOverlays.espFO4HHS_AAF(High-heel System).espHHFootsteps.espHHFootsteps_extended.espVioxsis_Strap-Ons.espLooksMirror.espCheatTerminal.esp//Below Are Weapons RelatedPistolOverhaul.espPO_NukaWorld.espSAOAWKCR.espLegendaryModification.espLegendaryModification2LM.espLegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.espLegendaryModificationGroknak.espLegendaryModificationMisc.espPipeGunRedux.espSAOPWO.espPWO_NukaWorld.espPWOAutomatron.espPWOShotgunAmmo.espPWOFarHarbor.espPWOPWPFarHarbor.espPWOLMPatch.espPipeWeaponsPaint.espATOMsWizard By Mr Mobius.espFactor.espCROSS_CryoLance.espASVektor.espDP_CaravanShotgun.espMTs255.esp//I dunno why I put these here, but it seems fine.LovingCait.espIdiot s!@£.espPaintings Kinky.esp[A lot of outfits and armor mods here, might not be relevent so I skip posting these]CROSS_Cybernetics.espCrimsomrider's Accessories.espWestTekTacticalOptics.espHN66Fo4_Nails.espCampsite.espFaded Glory - Soundtrack Expansion.esp[scrap Everything Related]FireSupportGlitchWorkaround.espCompanionStatus.espLocky Bastard.espStimpaks help you breathe.espOutfitSwitcher.espHoloDisplay.eslWorldwideGhoulsV400.eslKillTipsAndHitSound_by_tooun.eslOWR_GOP.espFar West Minutemen.espFineZoom.esp3dscopes-replacer(SeeThroughScope).espXM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.espXM2010_SniperRifle_SeeThroughScopePatch.esp//Item Sorting Mod, I have DEF_UI installed first then install HUD Framework.VIS-G Item Sorting.esp[AWKCR VISG Patches]//Some Loverslab mod below, since the AAF UP-TO-DATE guide said these should be at the bottom......AAF_SEU.espFPEDogAddon.espFPESuperMutantAddon.espFPAttributes.espFP_SexualHarassment.espCombatStripLite.espDangerousNights.espCommonwealth Captives.espAAF_Spectators.espAAF_CreaturePack01.espAAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp[some AAF Animations here][ultimate AAF Patch related .esp]//These I believe are required by mod authors to put at the very bottomPip-Boy Flashlight.espskeletonfemaleplayerLMCC.espWelcometoGoodneighbor.espBostonFPSFixAutomatron.espBostonFPSFixAIO.espPlayerComments.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espStm_DiamondCityExpansion.espCyber-Light Apartments.espRRTV_OverbossHideaway.espEli_Hangman's Home.espEli_FahabaShack.espEli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.espPhotoLight.esp Any help would be appreciated :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted99367623User Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) First, you made a user-friendly list with sections and details what mods need to be loaded where. Others just but the whole list and do nothing.Second, I am NOT a modder nor an advanced user. Because I install as many mods as possible (atm 591 activated plugins (I had weeks ago almost 900 active plugins!!!)) I learned much about load orders.Question:Do you use Mod Organizer 2? Did you install... FO4EDIT?Wrye Bash?LOOT?Buffout 4? (because you use AAF)[and necessary/needed/important mods?](I have all installed/use them)I would say that you should let LOOT sorts your load order - especially the Masters. It sorts the Masters - almost - correctly. Then open Wrye Bash and see if it shows plugins with orange/red warnings. It tells you why they are load wrong. Then sort them MANUALLY above and or below their missing masters.For the ,ESPs: LOOT does NOT sort them properly and messes up the load order, so looking in Wrye Bash is VERY important and sorting them manually. LOST AWKCR VIS-G Patches: They need to be loaded LAST but BEFORE Pip-Boy Flashlight.Scrap related mods: They need to be loaded LAST too (after LOST Patches).I also have AAF, AAF animation mods and Ulf's patch and I also installed and loaded them as bottom as possible. Edited June 11, 2021 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monesq Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 There are many vids that discuss load order. Also the above-poster had good advice (though I believe you are using MO2not Vortex?) I can answer your query re: Kill Tips & Hit sound. That, I believe, is normal. Not sure why there is such a delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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