osced Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) I've got a kind of strange bug/glitch, it has happen in two of my last saves. But I've open other saves with same mods/load order and not been able to reproduce it. So here's what happens. after I claimed Oberland Station and builds turrets, they will disappears after a while, still counted as defense. Not sure if something triggers it or not, but from my last save I've seen that after I leveled up to 20 and the Valutec calling questline appears the turrets has disappeared. What I tried is following: - Build turrets on ground or on floor (not working)-Build turret on several places (not working)- Build turret, go elsewhere and level to 20 and go back (not working)-Build turret, go elsewhere and level to 20 and then go to other settlement (work so far)-Open up other saves where I already have claimed the settlement (works) Tried to google this problem and did not found much, have anyone seen this before? Recently I've got this bug on another settlement, in this case I leveled up just before I built the turret. See below for loadorder: Fallout4.esmUnofficial Fallout 4 Patch.espWorkshopFramework.esmArmorKeywords.esmXDI.esmHUDFramework.esmPANPC.esmPACE.esmSettler Sandbox Overhaul.eslMore NPCs Sandbox Expansion.eslTrueStormsFO4.esmVotWMaster.esmmso_sms.eslCWSS Redux.espCanarySaveFileMonitor.eslWhatsYourName.eslCompanion Pictures and Posters.eslVotWSpecialVideos.eslNPSShoppingIM.eslAAF.esmOVT.espBostonFPSFixAIO.espPaladinBaileyRedRocket.espFlicker Fixer.espRAW INPUT.espspacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.espLooksMenu Customization Compendium.espPlayerComments.espPlayerComments_UFO4P_Patch.espPiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.espPlayerComments_PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul_Patch.espImmersiveGenericDialogues.espPlayerComments_ImmersiveGenericDialogues_Patch.espIcebreakerCDO-Piper.espPlayerComments_IceBreakerCDO-Piper_Patch.espMerged Fixes.espCBBE.espJournal.espArmorsmith Extended.espVIS-G Item Sorting.espVIS-G Item Sorting Vanilla Weight Patch.espCraftingFramework.espCraftingFrameworkAWKCR2.espImmersive HUD.espFirstPersonMessagesMerged.espVisibleWeapons.espFriffy_Holstered Weapons.espNo Pre-War Pipe-Weapons v1.0.espW.A.T.Minutemen.espVertibird Faction Paint Schemes.espImprovedBoSRedux.espImprovedBoSRedux-Vertibirds.espImprovedBoSRedux-Uniforms.espCROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.espLBPAC.espLBPAC AWKCR Patch.espBetter Cooking Stations.espBetter Cooking Stations - Far Harbor + Nuka World patch.espBetter Cooking Stations Immersive Patch.espBetter Explosives Redux.espAdvancedNeeds2.espAdvancedNeeds2_Expansion_02_Spoilage.espAdvancedNeeds2_Patch_DLC.espSleepIntimate.espCompanionHealThyself.espFlashy_CrimeAndPunishment.espLR_Motorcycle.espLR_LoneWandererFarHarbour.espLR_LoneWandererNukaWorld.espGetDirty.espGetDirty_NoCleanlinessPatchForCWSS.espGrow A Hair.espR3z_F4SE_DyanicMuscleAndFat.espCompanionAccuracy.espCompanion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.espAlex's Companion Inventory Overhaul.espEveryonesBestFriend.espCompanionsGoHome_A.espCompanionActiveWait.espWAYN_CompanionTracking.espWAYN_CompanionTracking_Automatron.espPlayerMarriage.espKSHairdos.espThe Eyes Of Beauty.espLots More Facial Hair.espLots More Male Hairstyles.espMerged Appearance.espImmersiveAnimationFramework.espIAF - Far Harbor & Nuka World.espOMEGA - IAF BCS Patch.espOMEGA - IAF AN2 Patch.espPD_LowerWeapon.espStimpaks help you breathe.espElzee Cough.espMODGirlyAnimation.espMODMoreGirlyAnimation.espShellRain.espDiamondCityAutoClose.espSettlementMenuManager.espWorkshopRearranged.espUncappedSettlementSurplus.espSKKSettlementAttackSystem.espSKKSettlementAttackSystemMarkers.espBetterSettlers.espBetterSettlersNoLollygagging.espAzarPonytailHairstyles.espEli_Armour_Compendium.espBetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.espBetterSettlersMortalPack.espSnapBeds.espAkaWaterWorld.espOCDispenser.espOCDecorator.espOCDecoratorDLC.espEvilViking13_MinutemenMorale.espPictures Of Remembrance.espMinutemenPropaganda.espCampsite.espAdvancedNeeds2_Patch_Campsite.espLocksmith.espLocksmithEdit.espLore Notes.espBetter_Notes.espPublick Occurrences Expanded.espInterview.espSettlementPrivacy.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.espTrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.espTrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.espTrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.espTrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.espWET.espPip-Boy Flashlight.espPowerArmorImpactEffects.espMerged Audio.espQuieter Settlements - Recommended Settings.espRealistic_conversations.espImmersivePipboyRadio.espLooksMenu.espLooksMenu1stPersonViewItemsFix.esplnrLMFO4AllInOne-PubesForeverOverlays.esp.Piper.espCait Vanilla hair and freckles -light makeup.espPreston Garvey custom hair.espEli Armor Compendium AE Patch.espCrimsomrider's 1950s Feminine Outfits.espLacy Underwear.espDX Commonwealth Mini Dresses.espEferasShoulderBag.esprpampas.espMore Sensible Mod Perk Req GOTY.espSpotlightFix-100-Shadow.espVault13Canteen.espNeoClassicNukaCola.espCassette Tapes.espBBVid Holotapes.espSanctuary Raider & Dog Removed.espDoubleFusionTime.espTimescale Defaults to 6.espAdvanced Needs 2 Vis-G.espWorkshopRearranged_DEFUI+VIS_Patch.espWorkshopRearranged_VideosOfTheWasteland_Patch.espSchnips - Better Cooking Stations - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Better Explosives Redux - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon - AWKCR, VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Immersive HUD - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - ImprovedBoSRedux - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - LBPAC - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - SettlementMenuManager - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Visible Weapons - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - LR_Motorcycle - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - SKKSettlementAttackSystem - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Friffy_Holstered Weapons - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - ImprovedBoSRedux-Uniforms - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - W.A.T.Minutemen - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Workshop Rearranged - VIS-G Patch.espLOST Eli Compendium Patch.espLOST - AWKCR VIS-G Tweaks.espLOST 13 Canteen Patch.espLOST Campsite Patch.espLOST Heal Thyself Patch.espLOST Holstered Weapons Patch.espLOST Lone Wanderer Patch.espLOST PACE Patch.espLOST PANPC Patch.espLOST SCDO Patch.espLOST True Storms Patch.espLOST Workshop Framework Patch.esp Another loadorder that gave same problem: Fallout4.esmFallout4.exeDLCRobot.esmDLCworkshop01.esmDLCCoast.esmDLCworkshop02.esmDLCworkshop03.esmDLCNukaWorld.esmccbgsfo4006-pipboy(chrome).eslccgcafo4018-factionas07mm.eslUnofficial Fallout 4 Patch.espWorkshopFramework.esmArmorKeywords.esmXDI.esmHUDFramework.esmPANPC.esmPACE.esmTrueStormsFO4.esmVotWMaster.esmAAF.esmSettler Sandbox Overhaul.eslMore NPCs Sandbox Expansion.eslmso_sms.eslCWSS Redux.espCanarySaveFileMonitor.eslWhatsYourName.eslCompanion Pictures and Posters.eslVotWSpecialVideos.eslNPSShoppingIM.eslBostonFPSFixAIO.espPaladinBaileyRedRocket.espFlicker Fixer.espRAW INPUT.espCompanionAccuracy.espspacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.espJournal.espWAYN_CompanionTracking.espWAYN_CompanionTracking_Automatron.espLooksMenu Customization Compendium.espDLC Timing.espMerged Fixes.espCBBE.espArmorsmith Extended.espMODGirlyAnimation.espMODMoreGirlyAnimation.espWDI1.8.espVIS-G Item Sorting.espVIS-G Item Sorting Vanilla Weight Patch.espCraftingFramework.espCraftingFrameworkAWKCR2.espImmersive HUD.espLooksMenu.espLooksMenu1stPersonViewItemsFix.esplnrLMFO4AllInOne-PubesForeverOverlays.espVisibleWeapons.espFriffy_Holstered Weapons.espWDIAutomatronDLC1.8.espWDIFarHarborDLC1.8.espWDINukaWorldDLC1.8.espK9TacticalHarness.espEli_Armour_Compendium.espCrimsomrider's 1950s Feminine Outfits.espLacy Underwear.esprpampas.espEferasShoulderBag.espAnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.espAnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.espAnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR.espPiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.espImmersiveGenericDialogues.espIcebreakerCDO-Piper.espW.A.T.Minutemen.espVertibird Faction Paint Schemes.espImprovedBoSRedux.espImprovedBoSRedux-Vertibirds.espImprovedBoSRedux-Uniforms.espCROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.espSynth Overhaul.espSynth Overhaul - No level requirements Patch.espEveryonesBestFriend.espLBPAC.espLBPAC AWKCR Patch.espAlex's Companion Inventory Overhaul.espCompanion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.espCompanionsGoHome_A.espCompanionActiveWait.espTimescale Defaults to 6.espNo Pre-War Pipe-Weapons v1.0.espDoubleFusionTime.espBetter Cooking Stations.espBetter Cooking Stations - Far Harbor + Nuka World patch.espBetter Cooking Stations Immersive Patch.espBetter Explosives Redux.espMore Sensible Mod Perk Req GOTY.espAmmoCrafting.espAdvancedNeeds2.espAdvancedNeeds2_Expansion_02_Spoilage.espAdvancedNeeds2_Patch_DLC.espSleepIntimate.espFlashy_CrimeAndPunishment.espLR_Motorcycle.espLR_LoneWandererFarHarbour.espLR_LoneWandererNukaWorld.espGetDirty.espGetDirty_NoCleanlinessPatchForCWSS.espGrow A Hair.espR3z_F4SE_DyanicMuscleAndFat.espKSHairdos.espThe Eyes Of Beauty.espLots More Facial Hair.espLots More Male Hairstyles.espAzarPonytailHairstyles.espMerged Appearance.esp.Piper.espCait Vanilla hair and freckles -light makeup.espDeterminedDesdemona.espImmersiveAnimationFramework.espIAF - Far Harbor & Nuka World.espPD_LowerWeapon.espStimpaks help you breathe.espElzee Cough.espSettlementMenuManager.espWorkshopRearranged.espUncappedSettlementSurplus.espSKKSettlementAttackSystem.espSKKSettlementAttackSystemMarkers.espMore Productive Settlements.espBetterSettlers.espBetterSettlersNoLollygagging.espBetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.espBetterSettlersMortalPack.espSnapBeds.espAkaWaterWorld.espEvilViking13_MinutemenMorale.espPictures Of Remembrance.espMinutemenPropaganda.espFirstPersonMessagesMerged.espCampsite.espLocksmith.espLocksmithEdit.espMilkThatBrahmin.espLore Notes.espBetter_Notes.espPublick Occurrences Expanded.espInterview.espVault13Canteen.espNeoClassicNukaCola.espSettlementPrivacy.espBBVid Holotapes.espPlayerMarriage.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.espTrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.espTrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.espTrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.espTrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.espWET.espUltraInteriorLighting.espPip-Boy Flashlight.espThaylar Lighting 3.2 Workshop Rearranged Patch - Big Edition.espThaylar Lighting 3.2 - Big Edition.espThaylar Lighting 3.2 VTWO Patch - Big Edition.espPowerArmorImpactEffects.espWet Effects.espMerged Audio.espQuieter Settlements - Recommended Settings.espRealistic_conversations.espImmersivePipboyRadio.espDiamondCityAutoClose.espAtomic Lust.espFPVertibird.espFPVGunnerFix.espbattlebrother13_fix_BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0_FHVoices.espUnderwear Scalling fix.espUnderwear Scalling fix AWKCR.espSanctuary Raider & Dog Removed.espOMEGA - IAF BCS Patch.espOMEGA - IAF AN2 Patch.espAdvanced Needs 2 Vis-G.espWorkshopRearranged_DEFUI+VIS_Patch.espBetter_Notes VIS.espSchnips - Better Cooking Stations - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Better Explosives Redux - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Immersive HUD - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - ImprovedBoSRedux - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - LBPAC - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - SettlementMenuManager - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Visible Weapons - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - LR_Motorcycle - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Friffy_Holstered Weapons - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - ImprovedBoSRedux-Uniforms - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - W.A.T.Minutemen - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Workshop Rearranged - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - SKKSettlementAttackSystem - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon - AWKCR, VIS-G Patch.espOMEGA - IAF Milk That Brahmin Patch.espLOST - AWKCR VIS-G Tweaks.espLOST 13 Canteen Patch.espLOST PACE Patch.espLOST PANPC Patch.espLOST SCDO Patch.espLOST True Storms Patch.espLOST Workshop Framework Patch.espLOST Backpacks and Pouches Patch.espLOST Brotherhood Recon Patch.espLOST Immersive HUD Patch.espLOST K9 Harness Patch.espLOST Settlement Attack System Patch.espLOST Settlement Menu Manager Patch.espLOST Synth Overhaul Patch.espLOST Visible Weapons Patch.espUnderwear Scalling fix Armorsmith.espAdvancedNeeds2_Patch_Campsite.espWorkshopRearranged_VideosOfTheWasteland_Patch.espLOST Eli Compendium Patch.espEli Armor Compendium AE Patch.esp Edited August 2, 2021 by osced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osced Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 I'm now quite sure it happens if I level up and then build a turret, as I build two turrets and only the one that got invisible was build after a level up. Have now clue what's the problem have looked through my mods and can't see where it can cause this problem. Most of the mods aren't settlement mods. Have anyone any idea what can cause it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Use Better console to get the base ID of the terminal that is invisible. (if you can....) Use that to compare to the Base ID of the one that is visible. Better console also feeds you some other useful information. (requires F4SE...) See if anything interesting turns up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osced Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 I feel a bit silly now, after I check several mods and couldn't get the problem. I loaded the save with problem and run loot and after that the turret did not disappear, I did exact the same for my load order and loot load order and it was mine that caused the problem. I did went through my order and couldn't find any problem, but this shows that LOOT is much better than I thought. Here is the load order that did not cause the problem: Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.espWorkshopFramework.esmArmorKeywords.esmXDI.esmHUDFramework.esmPANPC.esmPACE.esmTrueStormsFO4.esmVotWMaster.esmAAF.esmSettler Sandbox Overhaul.eslMore NPCs Sandbox Expansion.eslmso_sms.eslCWSS Redux.espCanarySaveFileMonitor.eslWhatsYourName.eslCompanion Pictures and Posters.eslVotWSpecialVideos.eslNPSShoppingIM.eslUltraInteriorLighting.espPiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.espMerged Audio.espBostonFPSFixAIO.espFlicker Fixer.espspacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.espVIS-G Item Sorting.espVIS-G Item Sorting Vanilla Weight Patch.espLBPAC.espWorkshopRearranged.espEli_Armour_Compendium.espPaladinBaileyRedRocket.espMerged Appearance.espLOST Eli Compendium Patch.espW.A.T.Minutemen.espCompanionAccuracy.espWAYN_CompanionTracking.espWAYN_CompanionTracking_Automatron.espLooksMenu Customization Compendium.espDLC Timing.espMerged Fixes.espRAW INPUT.espCBBE.espImmersive HUD.espLooksMenu.espLooksMenu1stPersonViewItemsFix.esplnrLMFO4AllInOne-PubesForeverOverlays.espVisibleWeapons.espFriffy_Holstered Weapons.espWDIAutomatronDLC1.8.espWDIFarHarborDLC1.8.espWDINukaWorldDLC1.8.espK9TacticalHarness.espCrimsomrider's 1950s Feminine Outfits.espLacy Underwear.espEferasShoulderBag.espAnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.espBetter Explosives Redux.espCraftingFramework.espCraftingFrameworkAWKCR2.espAnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.espAnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR.espImmersiveGenericDialogues.espIcebreakerCDO-Piper.espSchnips - Workshop Rearranged - VIS-G Patch.espWorkshopRearranged_DEFUI+VIS_Patch.espImprovedBoSRedux.espVertibird Faction Paint Schemes.espImprovedBoSRedux-Vertibirds.espImprovedBoSRedux-Uniforms.espCROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.espEveryonesBestFriend.espLBPAC AWKCR Patch.espAlex's Companion Inventory Overhaul.espCompanion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.espCompanionsGoHome_A.espCompanionActiveWait.espTimescale Defaults to 6.espNo Pre-War Pipe-Weapons v1.0.espDoubleFusionTime.espLOST - AWKCR VIS-G Tweaks.espBetter Cooking Stations.espBetter Cooking Stations - Far Harbor + Nuka World patch.espBetter Cooking Stations Immersive Patch.espMore Sensible Mod Perk Req GOTY.espAmmoCrafting.espFlashy_CrimeAndPunishment.espLR_Motorcycle.espMODMoreGirlyAnimation.espLR_LoneWandererFarHarbour.espLR_LoneWandererNukaWorld.espLore Notes.espMilkThatBrahmin.espFPVertibird.espAdvancedNeeds2.espAdvancedNeeds2_Expansion_02_Spoilage.espAdvancedNeeds2_Patch_DLC.espSleepIntimate.espGetDirty.espGetDirty_NoCleanlinessPatchForCWSS.espGrow A Hair.espR3z_F4SE_DyanicMuscleAndFat.espKSHairdos.espThe Eyes Of Beauty.espLots More Facial Hair.espLots More Male Hairstyles.espAzarPonytailHairstyles.esp.Piper.espCait Vanilla hair and freckles -light makeup.espDeterminedDesdemona.espImmersiveAnimationFramework.espIAF - Far Harbor & Nuka World.espPD_LowerWeapon.espStimpaks help you breathe.espElzee Cough.espSettlementMenuManager.espUncappedSettlementSurplus.espSKKSettlementAttackSystem.espMore Productive Settlements.espBetterSettlers.espBetterSettlersNoLollygagging.espBetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.espBetterSettlersMortalPack.espSnapBeds.espSanctuary Raider & Dog Removed.espSKKSettlementAttackSystemMarkers.espAkaWaterWorld.espEvilViking13_MinutemenMorale.espPictures Of Remembrance.espMinutemenPropaganda.espFirstPersonMessagesMerged.espCampsite.espLocksmith.espLocksmithEdit.espBetter_Notes.espInterview.espVault13Canteen.espNeoClassicNukaCola.espSettlementPrivacy.espBBVid Holotapes.espPlayerMarriage.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.espTrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.espTrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.espWET.espThaylar Lighting 3.2 - Big Edition.espThaylar Lighting 3.2 Workshop Rearranged Patch - Big Edition.espThaylar Lighting 3.2 VTWO Patch - Big Edition.espPowerArmorImpactEffects.espWet Effects.espQuieter Settlements - Recommended Settings.espRealistic_conversations.espImmersivePipboyRadio.espDiamondCityAutoClose.espJournal.espAtomic Lust.espFPVGunnerFix.espbattlebrother13_fix_BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0_FHVoices.espUnderwear Scalling fix.espUnderwear Scalling fix AWKCR.espOMEGA - IAF BCS Patch.espAdvanced Needs 2 Vis-G.espOMEGA - IAF AN2 Patch.espBetter_Notes VIS.espPublick Occurrences Expanded.espSchnips - Better Cooking Stations - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Immersive HUD - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - ImprovedBoSRedux - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - LBPAC - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - SettlementMenuManager - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Visible Weapons - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - LR_Motorcycle - VIS-G Patch.espOMEGA - IAF Milk That Brahmin Patch.espLOST 13 Canteen Patch.espLOST PACE Patch.espLOST PANPC Patch.espLOST SCDO Patch.espLOST True Storms Patch.espTrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.espTrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.espLOST Workshop Framework Patch.espLOST Backpacks and Pouches Patch.espLOST Brotherhood Recon Patch.espSchnips - CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon - AWKCR, VIS-G Patch.espLOST Immersive HUD Patch.espLOST K9 Harness Patch.espLOST Settlement Attack System Patch.espSchnips - SKKSettlementAttackSystem - VIS-G Patch.espLOST Settlement Menu Manager Patch.espLOST Visible Weapons Patch.espAdvancedNeeds2_Patch_Campsite.espWorkshopRearranged_VideosOfTheWasteland_Patch.espWDI1.8.espMODGirlyAnimation.espSchnips - Better Explosives Redux - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Friffy_Holstered Weapons - VIS-G Patch.espArmorsmith Extended.esprpampas.espSynth Overhaul.espSynth Overhaul - No level requirements Patch.espSchnips - ImprovedBoSRedux-Uniforms - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - W.A.T.Minutemen - VIS-G Patch.espLOST Synth Overhaul Patch.espUnderwear Scalling fix Armorsmith.espEli Armor Compendium AE Patch.espPip-Boy Flashlight.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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