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Hello. This is my first official post start thingy on these forums LOL. Basically, I have had a problem with the Stormcloaks Civil War questline throughout all my playthroughs(I finished the Imperial questline on my first time going through it, and now this is my third character attempting to try the Stormcloack Questline, because something happened to the others that prevented me from finishing it). Anyway, basically here's the problem: When I got to the Haafingar Stormcloak Camp and talk to Galmar, he says "We're mounting our final attack on Solitude, etc. etc. etc.) He then dissapears and reappears by the front gates of Solitude. However, the problem is that I don't get any quest in my journal called "Battle for Solitude" nor any option to "Speak With Ulfric". So when I try walking to the City, the catapults and barriers are all there, along with Galmar and some Stormcloak soldiers. At this point, two things occure 1. When I get right past Katla's Farm, I get a MAJOR lag(I'm talking about like 2 FPS). After a lot of testing, the lag goes away when I enter Solitude or go somewhere else, meaning it's a problem with that particular area. 2. Like I said, Galmar and the Soldiers are there but Ulfric isn't. If I use the "prid 1b131" and "moveto player" command, he appears but acts just like he would in the Palace of the Kings. This makes finishing the Stormcloak Civil War impossible. Even when I enter the city, there are fires and rubble everywhere, but the battle doesn't render, nor do I get a quest called "Battle for Solitude" AT ALL. I've tried just about everything, and nothing seems to work. If anyone has a solution to this, I'd be grateful.

 

 

P.S. A few other things. I have the new "Civil War Overhaul" installed. However, when I deactivate it on the NMM when I speak with Galmar he says that "We're attacking Solitude" but now he just stays in the Camp with his weapon drawn and the battle doesn't even render.(If you need my load order, just ask). 2. I am running an official, Steam version of Skyrim with all DLC's(Hearthfire, Dawnguard, Dragonborn). If you need any more details or anything of the sort, feel free to ask. Thanks in advance.

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Hi. Thank you for the quick response. Actually, I installed the Civil War mod before I even started the "Jagged Crown" quest(where you go to Korvajund). I thought that if it was anything, it'd be the Civil War mod and even if it is, when I deactivate it I can't progress AT ALL. I've searched online for others having this issue, but it seems that when they fast travel to Katla's Farm or come close to Solitude, that the quest appears in their journal and that Ulfric is there. I tried that and no dice. If there is no fix for this, then I'll honestly just have to give up on the Stormcloaks for my next few playthroughs, because this would be the third time I ran into some bug that prvented me from finishing the quest line(it may have some curse on it or something) LOL. The Civil War is probably one of the buggiest questlines(along with the Companions) in the entire game(no offense Bethesda, I love the Elder Scrolls Series and Skyrim in it's entirety but those bugs are quite annoying). But anyway, I have no clue on what to do. I'll try to verify the game cache on Steam, but I doubt that would work. Thank you for the quick response and I'll keep you updated.

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Well anytime you install a large mod like that it is a good idea to back up your game folders (and IDK if NMM does this for you by default or not). A mod with many scripts like Civil War Mod can cause many issues with your game as simply turning it off won't necessarily remove all the scripts from the game.

 

You may need to reinstall the game, unfortunately. Hopefully verifying your Steam cache will work for you.

 

Good luck.

 

If it doesn't work make sure to post your load order when you come back too!

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Well, I verified my Steam cache and the most I got out of it is that the lag I told you about when I approached Katla's Farm has SLIGHTLY improved. Before I used to get like 2 FPS now I get 10-15, which is a start I guess. As for reinstalling the game, the issue isn't to the point where I feel like I need to do that. Yes, this bug is annoying but reinstalling the game is not only 50/50 but it's a pain in the a** and honestly not worth it in my opinion. Anyway, here is my load order sorted by BOSS and Cleaned by TES5EDIT:

 

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This is pretty much it. Yes, I know it's a lot of mods but my computer can handle it pretty well especially with the save cleaner and SKSE's "Clear Invalid Registrations". I do have another question though, slightly off topic. How big should my save files be? Because they are around 24 MB currently. Thanks again,.

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I have this same issue, and I don'thave any of those mods. I have completed all but the last nightmother quest of the dark brotherhood (quests after she was moved to Dawnstar Sanctuary). I have tried setstage, I have tried completeallobjectives, and I cannot get the quest completed for Fort Hraggstad to start the Battle for Solitude (objective talk to Ulfric outside Solitude). I have done all Dragonborn quests, I have done all Dawngaurd quests except help what'shername with her bows. I have done all Theives quests except return the skeleton key. And I do have another active glitch, I hired Delvin to remake the Dawnstar sanctuary, but that quest won't clear either. Not too worried about getting past that one. I do have SkyUI, and the Skyrim unnoficial Patch. Any help would be greatly appreciated, this is my first time through, and I really want to crush the Thalmor presence in Tamriel.

 

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I can't start the Battle of Solitude after liberating the area Galmar Stonefist give me 1,200 gold I tried everything I am playing with a mod that changes the armor an older mod before the DLCS I have the original base game does anyone have the quest code so I can start the battle of solitude. I don't have any any quests in solitude either.

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