Vagrant0 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 You may just want to hold out till you have more to spend. Although you might be able to make due with only 4gb ram for example, this can be a very significant limiting factor going forward. Similarly, having a motherboard that only supports 4 or 8gb ram also means having to buy a whole new motherboard and processor once you start needing more than that. With intel processors, I wouldn't go with anything other than an i7 for gaming, period. The i3 is intended primarily for business work (data entry) so cannot handle the needs of most games. An i5 can kinda do it, but will still feel lacking for any situations where you might be doing anything processor oriented. I've tried doing budget builds for around $500, they just simply don't work because you often have to go with hardware that is either underpowered or can't be swapped out and upgraded later. Nevermind the cost of software and all those extra bits that are hard to factor into a build the first few times. My best advice would be to wait and deal with what you have till you can scrape together about $1000-$1200 to spend on a system. The bang for your buck within that price range is much higher and you usually have many more options later when you need to upgrade something. You have to remember, you cannot build a system around games that are currently out, but rather have to look at what games will be released in the future. Within the next 3-4 years, most games will probably be built around the hardware capabilities similar to a PS4, so you'll want to make sure that any system you are building will meet atleast that much capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Yeah 4GB isn't going to be enough when ports of the next generations of consoles hit, both consoles have 8GB and while some of that will be reserved for other tasks most of it won't, PC ports will no doubt require a lot more memory as well, the days of games using less than 2GB will be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindekarr Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) If you're in Australia THIS is where you want to do your shopping. It's called Scorpion and if you're looking for the good stuff they're your best option for a few reasons. One, they give their own warranty in addition to any parts warranties, two, their shipping prices are MUCH cheaper than buying from overseas. Three, anything they're selling will have customer service in the country, and four, they have a pretty cool little service they offert where they keep a log of what parts are in your machine and then automatically check whether or not parts you're looking at buying or compatible or not(and replace any parts that weren't for free) I just recently rebuilt my PC via their shop in order to stay ahead of the impending next-gen of games(which have vastly higher min. reqs) After I got the machine back I realised I was going to need to beef up the cooling to use the new motherboard's overclocking systems, so I added bigger fans-one of those fans was faulty, and subsequently started rattling horribly, while an unforseen software issue completely fried one of the hard-drives(my fault aswell) So I took it back to the shop, willing to pay for fixing it since they were parts I had installed. Replacing the fan, troubleshooting and fixing the software issue, cloning and replacing the HDD, reassembling the machine and then testing it took them only 2 days, and they did it all under warranty anyway(even though they could have easily claimed it was my fault) http://www.scorptec.com.au/ They get all their profit from returning customers, so they tend to try hard to give good service, I've been buying exclusively from them since '07. Nice folks. Within your price range though, you're really probably better off buying a console of some variety. When the next gen of consoles hit a bit before christmas this year, they're going to be miles more powerful than any PC you could make for that kind of money, and since console games set the pace, you're going to rapidly become a fish out of water. My adivce would be either double the budget to 1000-1500 or just go console. There's nothing a PC around that price mark can really offer now that's unique, besides modding, so you're probably better off buying a PS4 for $499 and saving a dollar. PS4 vs $500 computer is so unfair it's not even funny. You're talking about a what, six core processor? 8GB RAM-it's a serious bit of kit, and it's unfortunately going to make budget PCs obsolete for a while. Edited July 10, 2013 by Vindekarr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMod Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Within your price range though, you're really probably better off buying a console of some variety. When the next gen of consoles hit a bit before christmas this year, they're going to be miles more powerful than any PC you could make for that kind of money, and since console games set the pace, you're going to rapidly become a fish out of water.Not really.I mean, PS4 is going to beat a $500 PC. Just because it's simpler, has less stuff, Unix based OS you don't pay extortionate prices to M$ for. But is it going to rival a $1,000 PC? No. Not nearly. Not remotely. Corrupting the lol.And a $600 PC if you shop around for every promotion, deal and whatever, can match it. Let me give you a build that should match PS4. I use newegg because icba to get into AUS stores, and because I do not recommend this exact build, it's just tailored to PS4. CPU $160: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285FX-8320 is actually more powerful due to its higher clock rate than the CPU in PS4.Mobo $79: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872RAM $48: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313344Case: Take your pick from the ten millions of perfect condition boxes discarded yearly. Don't have to dumpster dive, ask around to get yours before rain might touch it. It's a steel box, not a pair of undies.PSU $20 (hell yeah, this isn't even crap!): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026GPU $160: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127663HDD $55: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149380And it's not even a lousy seagate. Do you really need a DVD drive? My hundred-pound water-cooled tower doesn't have one. Well, there is a bluray in my laptop dock, so it's not like I totally have no means to read them. I even checked to have free shipping everywhere. Let's tally, comes out to $522 so far. If you absolutely have to have a new case and a bluray drive, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136268 and uh http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811233072 should set you straight. That's $40 for the BD and $25 for the case, for a total of $587. Actually, at this point I'm going to go ahead and recommend this build. I could have taken a $50 mobo with partial FX features support and I haven't. I could have taken crap parts and I haven't. AMD ships tolerable coolers with FX series, it's not Intel's spit-in-your-face, if you don't OC it will do. There's a $30 premium you would have to pay for a sidestep to Haswell 4430/H87. i5 4430 isn't the powerhouse an o/c'd 4770K is, it's more like i5 2400. For badly written games like Skyrim it's worth the cost, but looking at Crysis 3 and possible issues with PS4/XB1 titles vs guaranteed match+ with FX it's just "eh". So not without reservations, but here's a <$600 build that will match PS4/XB1 very closely. And it's available shipped to you in 2 days, not "sometime this fall". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor. Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Also the apus is a good start to, cheaper all in one which the latest consoles use. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113280 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Why is everyone giving a guy in Australia links to a U.S site that doesn't ship overseas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor. Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Its merely a suggestive product placement.. If he can find the parts in his own currency its all good then :whistling: thats how we give ideas to possible low cost systems. Or suggest certain parts in a certain price point. Edited July 10, 2013 by Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 The price difference will be significant though. @Vindekarr They're 8 core but not good, Nvidia called them low spec and they're not wrong, the next gen will rely much more on the GPU which is great for PCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennn Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) The price difference will be significant though. @Vindekarr They're 8 core but not good, Nvidia called them low spec and they're not wrong, the next gen will rely much more on the GPU which is great for PCs. Agreed. A good quad-core or even hexa-core will be far better than a mediocre octa-core, and the video card is far more relevant regardless. Next gen consoles have high numbers of cores, but each core is painfully weak. Edited July 11, 2013 by Rennn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMod Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) dp error Edited July 11, 2013 by FMod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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