ermitaBoy Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I have join this nexus forum for more than a year but this is the first time I have ever posted. About 9 hours ago I uploaded a screenshot on the image section titled "Queen of Skyrim". While it involved a frontal shot of a sexy imperial wearing skimpy armor (chronotrigger77's remodeled armor) I believe it was still very much within the allowable content for general viewing. Others are more provocative by comparison.It was already receiving a lot of views but for some inexplicable reason it was pulled down from the site. I have not received any notice why it was deleted. I am attaching the photo in question. I want to follow the rules but I also want the rules to be clearly define. Thank you. * Attached image removed by Admin (TVD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisnpuppy Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 First of all remove that thumbnail. It doesn't belong here. Second it appears your image was removed by LadyMilla. You should look for a PM in your inbox to see if you got something from her. If not you can PM her to discuss. Your image was removed because the nipples are showing. That is against the rules of the general image share. When you put an image up there is a colored box of text that is about the nudity issue. The rules say nipples are not allowed to be shown. If you see an images that you believe breaks the terms of service of this site you need to report it. So I suggest you remove the image from here and contact LadyMilla. Edit: For your reference here is the ToS regarding the images Uploading to the Image Share sectionThe image share section of Nexus Sites was designed to allow players to share their favourite or informative screenshots of the games they play with other users of the site. While an adult-only tag is available that should be used if the image would be rated anything higher than a PG-13 in US/UK media we do not want images of nude characters hosted in the Image Share section. “No nudity” includes boobs and genitalia as well as visible pubic hair in the genitalia area.Yes, there’s an adult-only content filter (that some have just taken to mean “nude content” filter) but adult-only content is more than just nudity. It’s excessive gore, it’s risque comic-strips, it’s pictures of characters wearing the skimpiest outfits possible without breaking the rules. It’s basically everything you wouldn’t want to have your boss catching you looking through at work.For a more detailed look at what is and isn't acceptable within the Image Share section please read Robin's thread on the subject.Aside from no nudity, you should only upload images that would be acceptable in the file database. This, importantly, means that you should not upload pictures of mods you are using that would not be allowed in the file database such as mods using ported or copyrighted content. Whether or not you use these mods is your choice, but please do not upload pictures of these mods in action to the Image Share section of the sites.As of the 12th of May 2010 a private "Supporter" only Image Share section is available for Supporter members of the site. This section may contain images of all types within the legal bounds of the internet. That is to say that nudity is permitted but any images that wouldn't be legally acceptable (such as pictures of naked children, bestiality, necrophilia, copyrighted content etc.) are still not allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyMilla Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 To add my voice to the conversation as the one who removed the image, Lisnpuppy gave you the correct explanation. It was simply too revealing for public image share, and I would have given you the same explanation in PM had the site not decided to throw 502 errors at me. Also, if you find other images that are similar or 'more provocative by comparison' then please report them - recently there is a noticeable trend in public Image Share that some members try to push the limits of what is permissible, and as we do not monitor the public Image Share actively (even though some members of the staff will browse through the first couple of gallery pages from time to time) we do not catch every offending image (some of them even made it to the Top Images before they were removed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrya Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (some of them even made it to the Top Images before it was removed). That might be mine, so I maybe I can repeat my question here ^^ It is likely not allowed to post images where hands are covering decent parts of the body as nipples, so is it allowed to cover nudity parts like breasts with other 'things' (not armor!) like environment (flowers in the grass etc, furniture), or some haircuts who are long enough or water when flagged as adult-content?I dont want to cross that border again, so I better ask before than having the troubles afterwards. I'm not complaining either, just I dont know right now how to handle this ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ermitaBoy Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) I could only wish the rules had been more detailed especially when the determination of whether a picture is simply sexy or already considered "nudity" is highly dependent on an individual's taste and sense of what is sensible. A hint of a nipple does not make a whole breast, or does it? This curt warning from the upload section does not help much: "NO NUDITY ALLOWEDDo not post any images of nudity including breasts, genitalia, buttocks or characters that are wearing so little that they might as well be naked (like 1 pixel wide thongs that cover nothing up).If you do not heed this warning it is very likely you will be banned." As you have already noted, there were a lot of pictures posted in the nexus using the brilliant remodeled armor of Chronotrigger77 (Hentai Mixed Armor). Coupled with the general warning, one could not be faulted for making his own personal determination of what is acceptable and what is not. Anyway, this is your site and thus your rules. I am just a guest and I do enjoy being a member. Really.All I want is just for the rules to be clearer, explicit, unambigous and leaving little leeway for a myriad of interpretation. I want to follow the rules but rules have to be clear if we expect it to be followed. Having said thus, may I therefore suggest that you provide a link for a more specific explanation of the warning as an option for some folks who wish to be clarified further. Thank you. Edited July 17, 2013 by ermitaBoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyMilla Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 All I want is just for the rules to be clearer, explicit, unambigous and leaving little leeway for a myriad of interpretation. Unfortunately, setting explicit / detailed rules would just provide food to "Internet lawlyers" (e.g. the "infamous" one-pixel bikini rule: if it had not been a general guideline for users who have enough common sense to grasp the concept, but it had been set as an explicit rule then we would be inundated by complaints from persons who intentionally used a 2-pixel bikini). I can be a bit more specific (I am working on an updated version of the images share rules but it needs to pass 'peer review' and get the green light from the site owner too), but I think I can share a snippet from it so that you can get the idea of what is not permissible: Images showing nudity are absolutely prohibited in public image share. This rule is applicable to images showing full frontal/rear nudity and partial nudity (uncovered breasts, genitals, buttocks), pictures showing characters wearing extremely revealing outfits (transparent, semi-transparent dresses, string bikinis, micro-bikinis, clothes that leave sensitive areas (e.g. areola) or pubic hair fully or partially visible). Rear-view images of topless female characters are tolerated as long as they are tagged as ’adult’ and the pose does not expose a full or partial side view of the breasts. Using patches, pasties, butterflies to cover up non-permissible body parts is also unacceptable. Environmental objects can be used as long as the 'sensitive' areas are sufficiently covered. Images that suggest sexual activity (not including kissing) are not permitted even if the characters are fully clothed or if they are posed in such a way that the 'action' takes place outside the field of view. Images showing characters using their hands to cover up otherwise naked body parts are also not acceptable (it is considered too erotic for public Image Share). Please note that the above italicized text is a draft version, but more or less this is our current practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrya Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ermitaBoy Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Thank you for the effort to make things clearer. I wish this was in place earlier. can you make an exception as to string bikinis & micro-bikinis? would CT77's bikini armors fall under "string", "micro" or "normal"? Here is the link to his mod http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25259/? Anyway, I made another screenshot (same character, same pose but different armor). I could attach it here for your comment if it is acceptable or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyMilla Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 This one would be acceptable with the 'Adult' tag set. It depends a lot on the pose you use. An armor that is normally not revealing may reveal too much if the character wearing it is leaning back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ermitaBoy Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Thank you. How about this one maam with adult only tag.... would this be acceptable? Feel free to delete it if it aint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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