rizon72 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Having watched how the media portrays both sides for the past 30 years, I would love to fire all the reporters and cancel every news station, then make them start over by going back to school to learn how to report facts, and not opinions like they do now. Not sure what media outlets you watch but actual news is reported on facts, just because a reporter injects opinions in their reporting doesn't discredit the facts or the reports they make. Without a human opinion in reporting we might as well just be reading raw data on spreadsheets. Colour, I watch MSNBC, CNN, BBC, FOX News, and my local stations, I also read the Houston Post (paper), NY Times (online), Indianapolis Post (online), Huffington Post, the Blaze, just to name a few. Its easy to skew a fact. An opinion is very much a problem. Here is an easy and quick example of what I mean, and one you can learn from. Everything I am going to tell you is fact, no lies. We should ban a dangerous chemical, DHMO, for the following reasons:- it is a major component of acid rain, which causes damage to buildings.- its gas form has been known to burn people, sometimes causing severe injury.- in its liquid form it kills thousands of people each year.- its found in baby formulas- a greenhouse gas Now I could continue with a dozen such 'facts'. But here is another truth about DHMO, its common name is water. Without it there could be no acid rain, people are burned by steam all the time, drowning is quite common, of course its found in baby fomulas, and it is a greenhouse gas. Just because a reporter is 'reporting facts' doesn't make them factual. Their opinion is very much a factor. That opinion, which you seem to want to ignore so easily, can be very dangerous if you don't question it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) Its easy to skew a fact. An opinion is very much a problem. Here is an easy and quick example of what I mean, and one you can learn from. Everything I am going to tell you is fact, no lies. We should ban a dangerous chemical, DHMO, for the following reasons:- it is a major component of acid rain, which causes damage to buildings.- its gas form has been known to burn people, sometimes causing severe injury.- in its liquid form it kills thousands of people each year.- its found in baby formulas- a greenhouse gas Now I could continue with a dozen such 'facts'. But here is another truth about DHMO, its common name is water. Without it there could be no acid rain, people are burned by steam all the time, drowning is quite common, of course its found in baby fomulas, and it is a greenhouse gas. Just because a reporter is 'reporting facts' doesn't make them factual. Their opinion is very much a factor. That opinion, which you seem to want to ignore so easily, can be very dangerous if you don't question it. Ironic you lecture me about an opinion as being "very much a problem" when reporting facts, when you yourself are making an "opinion" as your argument. But to get back to the topic.... The GOP has banned both CNN and NBC this weekend. Can't wait to see who the heck they nominate. Hope they ask tougher questions than just "this or that" questions. Maybe even tougher political questions than “Elvis or johnny cash"? :laugh: Edited August 20, 2013 by colourwheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Its easy to skew a fact. An opinion is very much a problem. Here is an easy and quick example of what I mean, and one you can learn from. Everything I am going to tell you is fact, no lies. We should ban a dangerous chemical, DHMO, for the following reasons:- it is a major component of acid rain, which causes damage to buildings.- its gas form has been known to burn people, sometimes causing severe injury.- in its liquid form it kills thousands of people each year.- its found in baby formulas- a greenhouse gas Now I could continue with a dozen such 'facts'. But here is another truth about DHMO, its common name is water. Without it there could be no acid rain, people are burned by steam all the time, drowning is quite common, of course its found in baby fomulas, and it is a greenhouse gas. Just because a reporter is 'reporting facts' doesn't make them factual. Their opinion is very much a factor. That opinion, which you seem to want to ignore so easily, can be very dangerous if you don't question it. Ironic you lecture me about an opinion as being "very much a problem" when reporting facts, when you yourself are making an "opinion" as your argument. But to get back to the topic.... The GOP has banned both CNN and NBC this weekend. Can't wait to see who the heck they nominate. Hope they ask tougher questions than just "this or that" questions. Maybe even tougher political questions than “Elvis or johnny cash"? :laugh: Don't hold your breath. Debates and such are just a political dog an pony show to get some 'face time' on the TV. Not like you learn anything about a candidates standing on issues, or anything of importance from them. Maybe the REAL reason they don't want to deal with these particular news organizations is because they didn't like the questions they wanted to ask..... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizon72 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) Its easy to skew a fact. An opinion is very much a problem. Here is an easy and quick example of what I mean, and one you can learn from. Everything I am going to tell you is fact, no lies. We should ban a dangerous chemical, DHMO, for the following reasons:- it is a major component of acid rain, which causes damage to buildings.- its gas form has been known to burn people, sometimes causing severe injury.- in its liquid form it kills thousands of people each year.- its found in baby formulas- a greenhouse gas Now I could continue with a dozen such 'facts'. But here is another truth about DHMO, its common name is water. Without it there could be no acid rain, people are burned by steam all the time, drowning is quite common, of course its found in baby fomulas, and it is a greenhouse gas. Just because a reporter is 'reporting facts' doesn't make them factual. Their opinion is very much a factor. That opinion, which you seem to want to ignore so easily, can be very dangerous if you don't question it. Ironic you lecture me about an opinion as being "very much a problem" when reporting facts, when you yourself are making an "opinion" as your argument. But to get back to the topic.... The GOP has banned both CNN and NBC this weekend. Can't wait to see who the heck they nominate. Hope they ask tougher questions than just "this or that" questions. Maybe even tougher political questions than “Elvis or johnny cash"? :laugh: Don't hold your breath. Debates and such are just a political dog an pony show to get some 'face time' on the TV. Not like you learn anything about a candidates standing on issues, or anything of importance from them. Maybe the REAL reason they don't want to deal with these particular news organizations is because they didn't like the questions they wanted to ask..... :D The only thing you hear at a debate anymore, is the typical party line. Colour, a fact is easily skewed, do you not understand that? In the DHMO example, there is no opinion, all facts. Look it up. What is an opinion, is how I presented it, that's what so called reporters do today. Edited August 20, 2013 by rizon72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 In my thinking, "Reporters" is a misnomer today. It's all a big rush to get the 'story' out first..... doesn't matter if your facts are all totally screwed up, or if the story is just a complete lie. Look at what happened to Tom Brokaw, or the tv station in some place I can't remember that reported the 'names' of the flight crew on the air asia flight that crashed short of the runway..... (We Tu Low, Sum Ting Wong? Seriously? That didn't strike them as odd????) Its a circus. A show. Facts don't matter. Truth doesn't matter. RATINGS are ALL that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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