Do Aliens Exist: The Great Debate

[JimboUK]

This is worth watching.

 

[HeyYou]

 

I wonder what would happen if we end up being visited by an ET that was biologically the same as us, I mean if science is based around replicating the right conditions for something to happen, and we obviously exist so there could be another planet out there with 'humans' on it. I put humans in quotes because they probably would consider themselves some other word. Unless... The conditions for events to happen were identical to ours all the way to the creation of the solar system, and also being so ideal that the entire shape and makeup of the third planet were the same as Earth's, and then the history of everything that habitats just so happened to be the same history as ours..

 

I'm sure that this is possible, but this also brings the question "Which Earth are we?" What if we discover a 'second earth', where it even has the same landmasses, then years later we end up sending a probe, only to find out that it's much much older than our home? Would we consider us to live on the 'second Earth'? What if the dominant sentient animal there had a different ancestry then us? Instead of being a primate, what if it wasn't even a mammal? What if instead of killing off the other sentient animals, they evolved alongside one another?

 

Just some things I was wondering.

Given the sheer numbers and scale of just our universe, this is pretty much certain to be the case somewhere. As well as pretty much everything else conceived. To a limited degree, just about anything we can imagine being probably exists somewhere, has existed, or will eventually exist. The only real limitation of what is possible is based on the actually loose limitations of physics and technology. And most of those limitations go out the window once you start considering other universes.

 

We would however never actually see even a tiny fraction of any of this though. The grand cosmic joke however would be if first contact were made by the literal James T. Kirk... True to life and with every bit of the described Federation actually being a thing. Boy would people have to sit and scratch their heads at that one. And yet... Within the scale of the universe, it's entirely possible... Just very unlikely.

 

Heinlein used this particular theory as a premise for one of his Lazarus Long novels..... Can't recall which one just off hand though.

[Thor.]

The other universe theory was actually considered a fact, scientist some how managed to theorize a multi universes using the black hole theory, which the other end of a black hole shoots out matter and gas out the other side into a nothingness void of space which has been opened by the black hole, in which is a tear in the space time continuum, sense black holes warp space time. As the gas and energy build up, the gas and energy explode and expand into a new universe,.

 

They say for each black hole a new universe may be in the making.

 

hows that for a theory, i will try to find the article.

 

http://www.suitcaseofdreams.net/Univerce.htm

Edited September 17, 2013 by Thor.

[OpheliaNeoma]

To an extent maybe Skyrim is an actual place ;)

[Aonghus]

Been watching this debate with amusement for a while. Those of us old enough to remember the 1992 US Presidential race already know the facts. There are intelligent aliens, and they do walk among us. One of the candidates that year kept going on about "alien this" and "alien that", when it was pretty obvious he was an alien himself.

 

For your consideration:

 

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/RossPerotColor.jpg

 

 

and:

 

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/42/QuarkDS9.jpg

 

 

 

Any questions?

Edited September 17, 2013 by Aonghus

[Thor.]

That reminds me of that disclosure project

 

:teehee:

 

Edited September 17, 2013 by Thor.