Prepare To Survive The Suffering of the New World disOrder

[dezdimona]

I'm cocked,locked and ready to rock!!!! :biggrin:

[jaysus]

from a personal point of view id appreciate an apocalypse as it could just further my power and abilities - no need to go into detail i just hate mankind...

 

but from a sanity point of view... well...

 

1.

go out and abduct all of the rothshild family members and all those associated with them... throw em in a pit full of hungry murdercrabs

 

why them? read history... since a few hundred years every bad thing that happened incvolved two things: dead people and the rothshilds... they own the dollar and the world banking system, they control most governments and basicly every political descicion, hitler was the only one i can remember who gave (french for making love) bout them but yet they got him... afteall he needed em to finance his poo... research "waterloo fraud" "Federal reserve bank" "founding of israel" and "financial crysis"... check what made these events happen and who profitted the most... (just to name a few events which probably were important on the RS agenda)

 

a comprehensive list of all members is needed aswell as a sophisticated tactical executive unit

 

2.

start votes for regional aswell as a global government through all information ways possible,

 

the first action of this gov will be:

redistribution of all ressources to a central agency which distributes them by need amongst the regional governments united in the big world government

(mind redistribution is not meant in the way of communism but as i see it 90% of all owned ressources were aquirred by illegal means, be it alc smuggling or extortion anyway)

 

the 2nd action will be the build up of a scientific agency to extend the ressources available to us and also enhance their usability (even tho we are atm at a point were we could sustain earth and all its life with the tools available and even keep an acceptable level of comfort)

 

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i see no need to go into detail about the actual crisis at hand as its just a symptom but not the real problem...

financial experts are bloody retards anyway... just read their scientific theories and what they actually do... i get a gooseskin when i think bout it...

they intentionally weaken our currencies (ya theres more than the rupie.. erm dollar) by lowering the interests rates to stimulate invenstments which will be pointless as there are no people with enough money to buy the produced stuff which will result in the company taking the loan going bancrupt and becoming property of whom? the bank... well the rothshilds so to speak...

the other possibility would be to stop loans all together... this is not wanted as we need economical growth... but we only need that growth to counter the lower value of the currency which gets lower with every dollar lend which actually is much more than just one dollar as we need to add the interest and the possibility of it being loaned again and again... (mind only 90 cent of one dollar can be lend again but his doesnt stop the nasty chain of doom)

so basicly we have a system in place which by itself turns privately aquirred property into bank property and this is even supported and enforced by our governements....

 

corruption on the highest level of just a mad conspiracy theory?

[Ethre]

Uh, Lhammonds? I'm pretty certain you can still buy .223 ammo . . .

AR15 forum page . . . with deals, etc . . .

(assuming they aren't sold out wherever you are trying to buy that is)

 

Or am I missing something?

[LHammonds]

I had stopped trying to buy ammo for some time now. It was before the election and no, you could not buy .223 ammo, even directly from the manufacturers. Apparently, you can get ammo from certain locations but local shops are still having difficulty getting certain types of ammo.

 

Here is some more cheerful news:

 

Fusion Centers Expand Criteria to Identify Militia Members

 

I guess the mere act of me posting that link makes me a terrorist to the crown...err...government. Or is that really American patriot? Hmmm...guess it depends on your point of view really. All "Americans" fighting the British were considered terrorists back in the day when the US was formed.

 

There are more targets painted on American civilians than I thought. It is no surprise that people who like Ron Paul would be "suspect" since it seems he is probably the one senator who thinks more like the original founders of the constitution than anyone else on capitol hill. ;)

 

EDIT: I was given this link via PM for a petition against the "The Modern Militia Movement" report the article above covers. Call me crazy but if I was under the impression that the government is overstepping its authority to falsely single-out people that fall into this "terrorist" group they are defining, would it be a smart idea to send them your name on a petition? It is a double-edge sword for sure.

 

LHammonds

[exanimis]

from wikipedia

 

The word “terrorism” is politically and emotionally charged,[4] and this greatly compounds the difficulty of providing a precise definition. A 1988 study by the United States Army found that over 100 definitions of the word “terrorism” have been used.[5] The concept of terrorism is itself controversial because it is often used by states to delegitimize political or foreign opponents, and potentially legitimize the state's own use of terror against them.

 

Notice this last part

 

The concept of terrorism is itself controversial because it is often used by states to delegitimize political or foreign opponents, and potentially legitimize the state's own use of terror against them.

 

So the states use terror tactics against a group of people like the Militias, who have a constitutional right to exist, by calling them terrorists. The people, who do not understand their own rights, point fingers and yell "Terrorist". Now the government steps in and uses terrorist tactics to "eliminate" the problem?

 

David Koresh, Branch Davidian, Waco, any of this ring a bell?

 

I posted a video of Ron Paul's on one of my sites, does that mean I'm a .....ummm...what the hell am I?

 

Oh well! See you in the camps LHammonds!

[Skree000]

from wikipedia

 

The word “terrorism” is politically and emotionally charged,[4] and this greatly compounds the difficulty of providing a precise definition. A 1988 study by the United States Army found that over 100 definitions of the word “terrorism” have been used.[5] The concept of terrorism is itself controversial because it is often used by states to delegitimize political or foreign opponents, and potentially legitimize the state's own use of terror against them.

 

Notice this last part

 

The concept of terrorism is itself controversial because it is often used by states to delegitimize political or foreign opponents, and potentially legitimize the state's own use of terror against them.

 

So the states use terror tactics against a group of people like the Militias, who have a constitutional right to exist, by calling them terrorists. The people, who do not understand their own rights, point fingers and yell "Terrorist". Now the government steps in and uses terrorist tactics to "eliminate" the problem?

 

David Koresh, Branch Davidian, Waco, any of this ring a bell?

 

I posted a video of Ron Paul's on one of my sites, does that mean I'm a .....ummm...what the hell am I?

 

Oh well! See you in the camps LHammonds!

 

 

good post. well said. /agreed

[exanimis]

This is an e-mail I received yesterday. I think that this thread is as good a place as any to post it.

 

"The Proposal"

 

When a company falls on difficult times, one of the things that seems to happen is they reduce their staff and workers. The remaining workers must find ways to continue to do a good job or risk that their job would be eliminated as well..

 

 

 

Wall street, and the media normally congratulate the CEO for making this type of "tough decision", and his board of directors gives him a big bonus.

 

Our government should not be immune from similar risks.

 

Therefore:

 

Reduce the House of Representatives from the current 435 members to 218 members.

 

Reduce Senate members from 100 to 50 (one per State).

 

Then, reduce their staff by 25%.

 

Accomplish this over the next 8 years

 

(two steps/two elections) and of course this would require some redistricting.

 

Some Yearly Monetary Gains Include:

 

$44,108,400 for elimination of base pay for congress. (267 members X $165,200 pay/member/ yr.)

 

$97,175,000 for elimination of their staff. (estimate $1.3 Million in staff per each member of the House, and $3 Million in staff per each member of the Senate every year)

 

$240,294 for the reduction in remaining staff by 25%.

 

$7,500,000,000 reduction in pork barrel ear-marks each year. (those members whose jobs are gone. Current estimates for total government pork earmarks are at $15 Billion/yr)

 

The remaining representatives would need to work smarter and improve efficiencies. It might even be in their best interests to work together for the good of our country!

 

We may also expect that smaller committees might lead to a more efficient resolution of issues as well. It might even be easier to keep track of what your representative is doing.

 

Congress has more tools available to do their jobs than it had back in 1911 when the current number of representatives was established. (telephone, computers, cell phones to name a few)

 

Note:

Congress did not hesitate to head home when it was a holiday, when the nation needed a real fix to the economic problems. Also, we have 3 senators that have not been doing their jobs for the past 18+ months (on the campaign trail) and still they all have been accepting full pay. These facts alone support a reduction in senators & congress.

 

Summary of opportunity:

 

$ 44,108,400 reduction of congress members..

 

$282,100, 000 for elimination of the reduced house member staff.

 

$150,000,000 for elimination of reduced senate member staff.

 

$59,675,000 for 25% reduction of staff for remaining house members.

 

$37,500,000 for 25% reduction of staff for remaining senate members.

 

$7,500,000,000 reduction in pork added to bills by the reduction of congress members.

 

$8,073,383,400 per year, estimated total savings. (that's 8-BILLION just to start!)

 

Big business does these types of cuts all the time.

 

If Congresspersons were required to serve 20, 25 or 30 years (like everyone else) in order to collect retirement benefits, tax payers could save a bundle.

 

Now they get full retirement after serving only ONE term.

[jaysus]

problem with that proposal is that those that corrupt the gov will have an easier play... they would need to print less money (which would be good for inflation reasons tho) as they need to control less people...

well even tho i must admit that the system itself is quite self sustainable and doesnt need much work to corrupt those in power...

 

i mean basicly why didnt you amercants stand up yet? your constitution is quite simple but right... and whats happening since 1927 and the first financial crisis has moved your system out of the boundaries of the constitution, jefferson made it quite clear i think... hand the power over the mighty green buck over to the banking system and out of gov hands and you end up in a system of corruption... thats what you got that amendment to wield guns for... and youre one of the few lucky people that have the right to own weapons to fight for their right! by constituion many countries have the right to fight a corrupt gov but most dont have the means to do so...

 

once your country would be freed, about 30% of the accumulated power of the devil will be taken back into the hands of the people... would be a vast achievement for mankind i guess and probably spread to other countries until those that poison and destroy our brothers will know that our name is mankind when we lay vengance upon them. :ninja:

[exanimis]

problem with that proposal is that those that corrupt the gov will have an easier play... they would need to print less money (which would be good for inflation reasons tho) as they need to control less people...

well even tho i must admit that the system itself is quite self sustainable and doesnt need much work to corrupt those in power...

 

i mean basicly why didnt you amercants stand up yet? your constitution is quite simple but right... and whats happening since 1927 and the first financial crisis has moved your system out of the boundaries of the constitution, jefferson made it quite clear i think... hand the power over the mighty green buck over to the banking system and out of gov hands and you end up in a system of corruption... thats what you got that amendment to wield guns for... and youre one of the few lucky people that have the right to own weapons to fight for their right! by constituion many countries have the right to fight a corrupt gov but most dont have the means to do so...

 

once your country would be freed, about 30% of the accumulated power of the devil will be taken back into the hands of the people... would be a vast achievement for mankind i guess and probably spread to other countries until those that poison and destroy our brothers will know that our name is mankind when we lay vengance upon them. :ninja:

 

 

There are a few small problems with your ideas. First is the fact that any group that defends our constitution against the abuse of our own government is labeled by that same government as a terrorist groups. That is why Militias are called terrorists by the media. Secondly is the fact that by the time you gained a membership of ten people to a group opposed to the way our government is being run, you would have someone in that group who is an informant.

 

Even though we have the right to bear arms, we don't really have the right to do anything with them. Raising weapons against our government is not the answer, the people would be defeated. States could succeed from the Union but since the brutality of the American Civil War, no state would dare. Our Civil war was the most violent and bloody war ever fought by this country and contrary to what the media would have people believe, it was not about slavery. States wanted the right to govern themselves without interference from Washington. Thirteen states separated themselves from the U.S. and became a separate country.

 

As long as we hold to the constitution and keep our right, the government can not have complete control. We can not be ruled as slaves. We are free men. When we allow our government to take that single right away, we are agreeing to a dictatorship.

 

From a post on another thread

 

"...A CIVILIZED NATION HAS FULL GUN REGISTRATION." - ADOLPH HITLER

[Ethre]

I had stopped trying to buy ammo for some time now. It was before the election and no, you could not buy .223 ammo, even directly from the manufacturers. Apparently, you can get ammo from certain locations but local shops are still having difficulty getting certain types of ammo.

 

Here is some more cheerful news:

 

Fusion Centers Expand Criteria to Identify Militia Members

 

I guess the mere act of me posting that link makes me a terrorist to the crown...err...government. Or is that really American patriot? Hmmm...guess it depends on your point of view really. All "Americans" fighting the British were considered terrorists back in the day when the US was formed.

 

There are more targets painted on American civilians than I thought. It is no surprise that people who like Ron Paul would be "suspect" since it seems he is probably the one senator who thinks more like the original founders of the constitution than anyone else on capitol hill. ;)

 

EDIT: I was given this link via PM for a petition against the "The Modern Militia Movement" report the article above covers. Call me crazy but if I was under the impression that the government is overstepping its authority to falsely single-out people that fall into this "terrorist" group they are defining, would it be a smart idea to send them your name on a petition? It is a double-edge sword for sure.

 

LHammonds

 

Seems like more of a supply/demand issue to me. Its definitely available. Just people are snapping it up as quickly as they can get it.

 

Its a question of how far you think the government has gone - there are those who think the govt is already making lists, and those who simply think it is down the wrong track. The Campagin for Liberty (and Ron Paul for that matter) fall in the later group. They're trying to fix what the problems they see in the current government establishment.

 

UPDATE: Missouri Retracts MIAC report