fireheather Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) I've been beating my head against this wall for a while. I was having issues with Oblivion so I did a clean install. Vanilla works fine but every time I try to start a new game it crashes to the desktop with no error message. I've done the sorting through the mods one at a time, deleting the oblivion ini file, and tried every fix I could find (each time doing a clean install). I've gotten rid of a lot of problem mods but I'm officially at my wit's end. Any help would be appreciated greatly. Active Mod Files:⢠00 Oblivion.esm [CRC: 2FF840C5] ⢠01 CM Partners.esm [CRC: FE525BB3] ⢠02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.74] [CRC: FEB841DF] ⢠03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0] [CRC: 4CC0CFD7] ⢠04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0] [CRC: 754C4DFF] ⢠05 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm [Version 5.0] [CRC: 68C1F1C0] ⢠06 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73] [CRC: 17B115EE] ⢠07 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.7] [CRC: F09257D1] ⢠08 DLCShiveringIsles.esp [CRC: 2BB84977] ⢠09 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.6.0] [CRC: 5FCCF9D3] ⢠++ Cobl Tweaks - SI.esp [CRC: CCD73AB3] ⢠0A Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] [CRC: F7ADF908] ⢠0B Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [Version 5.0] [CRC: 7B1A49B1] ⢠0C DLCHorseArmor.esp [CRC: BD0084C5] ⢠⢠⢠DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] [CRC: C5A61F9E] ⢠0D DLCOrrery.esp [CRC: 351A3894] ⢠⢠⢠DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] [CRC: FCF99B11] ⢠0E DLCVileLair.esp [CRC: 8748A782] ⢠⢠⢠DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] [CRC: 84ABAB20] ⢠0F DLCMehrunesRazor.esp [CRC: A378A5AE] ⢠⢠⢠DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] [CRC: 75E5A036] ⢠10 DLCSpellTomes.esp [CRC: 02FA9682] ⢠++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 3AE29795] ⢠11 DLCThievesDen.esp [CRC: 7F76D2D3] ⢠12 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.15] [CRC: F7685DB5] ⢠13 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.14] [CRC: F8731FE7] ⢠14 VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.5.6] [CRC: 241CBF39] ⢠15 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp [CRC: AA810FEF] ⢠16 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12] [CRC: 1F6B40D8] ⢠17 DLCFrostcrag.esp [CRC: F595C8AD] ⢠18 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] [CRC: 7835C46D] ⢠19 Knights.esp [CRC: CF02E476] ⢠1A Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8] [CRC: CCDA5239] ⢠⢠⢠Essential_Merchants.esp [CRC: 0434531D] ⢠1B ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp [CRC: 7576680A] ⢠1C Trails Of Cyrodiil Complete.esp [Version 0.8] [CRC: F5064109] ⢠1D Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp [CRC: 91D497CF] ⢠1E Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 71F7DC2A] ⢠1F Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 3.0RC3] [CRC: 489D7BE6] ⢠++ Versa's Item and Flora Overhaul.esp [CRC: 32585482] ⢠20 Unique Forts Gold Coast.esp [CRC: 43117B9B] ⢠21 Travelers of Cyrodiil.esp [CRC: 04229611] ⢠⢠⢠Better Benirus Manor.esp [Version 5.11-IO-Cobl-SI] [CRC: F9232DA4] ⢠22 Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.esp [Version 1.2] [CRC: 8D021DE2] ⢠⢠⢠Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] [CRC: AA29DCA8] ⢠23 tq5.esp [CRC: BFC7EEAA] ⢠24 BearHunt.esp [CRC: 9A7BBEC9] ⢠25 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp [CRC: 77D6953B] ⢠26 Ancient Dwemer Ruins.esp [CRC: 358813C4] ⢠27 AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.32.Non-COBL] [CRC: 5A1114F9] ⢠28 Unused NPCs - Compatible Version.esp [CRC: 525753A4] ⢠29 aaachzCastleMystery.esp [CRC: E75F190E] ⢠2A Frostcrag Village.esp [Version 1.0.7] [CRC: AF477DE5] ⢠++ VHB-Battlehorn-AFK Patch.esp [CRC: 50972E4B] ⢠2B DBC.esp [CRC: 971057CD] ⢠2C LandmarksOfCyrodiilLite.esp [CRC: 49D09920] ⢠2D SacredOak_Settlement.esp [CRC: 587EB84A] ⢠2E Unique Forts Fort Teleman.esp [CRC: 038BD96A] ⢠++ Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp [CRC: 89D71709] ⢠2F DID3_DoubleTrouble.esp [CRC: 3AA32F85] ⢠30 More Female Servants.esp [Version 1.10] [CRC: DA3F6DC0] ⢠31 NPC Plus.esp [CRC: 0A1512B4] ⢠⢠⢠lNewGems.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: FCF72A73] ⢠32 AFK_Frostcrag.esp [Version 1.2.Non-COBL] [CRC: 39FCAD75] ⢠33 Akaviri Heirlooms.esp [CRC: 9DD7C5FA] ⢠34 All+5AttributeModifiers.esp [CRC: ACB0A189] ⢠35 Ancient Silver Armor.esp [CRC: B10158C3] ⢠36 CM Partners.esp [CRC: ED17B93C] ⢠++ ROC+Shadowcrest Vineyard Patch.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: B9AF10F9] ⢠37 Smarter Bandits.esp [CRC: 4A4D542C] ⢠38 Unique Forts Fort Strand.esp [CRC: 70659455] ⢠39 BettysMedalsOfHonor.esp [CRC: 9F0859F8] ⢠3A ArmoryLab.esp [CRC: 24038372] ⢠3B Arkay's Champion.esp [CRC: 75E33365] ⢠3C SecretsoftheAyleidsClosure.esp [CRC: D087615F] ⢠3D CM Partners Elves by Howabominable.esp [CRC: 3CE521EB] ⢠3E CM Partners Humans by Howabominable.esp [CRC: 763878F8] ⢠++ BetterArenaRewards.esp [CRC: 6900624C] ⢠++ DLCOrrery - Better Powers.esp [CRC: 80653579] ⢠3F BookTrackerUpdatedv1.1.esp [CRC: 1C69672E] ⢠40 BountyNotification.esp [CRC: 47B36B26] ⢠41 BowOfShadows.esp [CRC: 2110960A] ⢠42 Brooms Tidy Up.esp [CRC: 13C4526D] ⢠43 CapesandCloaks.esp [CRC: 0C16BC78] ⢠44 Captain Renaults Ring F500 WByes RH2.esp [CRC: E53A7C79] ⢠45 cashbarrel.esp [CRC: ABAEAA5F] ⢠++ Cobl Patch - Hunger Tongue.esp [CRC: 395A9DF4] ⢠++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52] [CRC: 8C1A854E] ⢠46 CompanionshipRing.esp [CRC: 4692FCEB] ⢠47 Consistent Beggar Voices.esp [CRC: 3DDADDF8] ⢠⢠⢠DLCMergedBooks.esp [CRC: B10B1E87] ⢠48 EnchantedGems_Geomancy.esp [Version 3] [CRC: 83359FB2] ⢠49 EnchantedGems_GemDust.esp [Version 3] [CRC: 2EDB4F8D] ⢠4A AddActorValues_example.esp [CRC: A2607E0C] ⢠4B EnchantedGems.esp [Version 3] [CRC: E80B3523] ⢠++ Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp [CRC: 92CF7048] ⢠4C Extended UI.esp [Version 1.6] [CRC: 8B99FADD] ⢠++ TenAncestors.esp [CRC: 2EE50443] ⢠⢠⢠1FDSWORDS.esp [CRC: 0C2D8478] ⢠4D FrostCompanion.esp [CRC: 8F15A5C1] ⢠4E GOSH.esp [CRC: 98C6F03A] ⢠4F SRJhealCompanion.esp [CRC: 6FB0F834] ⢠++ Hunter'sDelight.esp [CRC: 4BCA9EA9] ⢠⢠⢠MOBS SI.esp [Version 2.0] [CRC: 59E3DDC6] ⢠++ SR06's_Droppable_Quest_Items.esp [CRC: 5C737E99] ⢠50 Intelligence Overhaul.esp [CRC: D1752E63] ⢠51 Kvatch Rebuilt Fighter's Guild.esp [CRC: E6637F76] ⢠52 LINK.esp [Version 1.4] [CRC: 5223A305] ⢠++ LadyDeadlock_LoveYourHorse.esp [CRC: 88C2ED4C] ⢠53 Nerastarel Story.esp [CRC: 2F24C141] ⢠++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp [CRC: 9D273C2C] ⢠++ MartinIsEssential.esp [CRC: 3112EE06] ⢠54 Petting your creatures.esp [CRC: 87B63AC8] ⢠55 JJPRepairRecharge - Spell Version.esp [CRC: 7D1E05E6] ⢠56 demonocus-staffofthieves.esp [CRC: FB312AF6] ⢠57 Ringofholding3.0.esp [CRC: 80D5FD75] ⢠58 Ring of the Voyeur.esp [CRC: A72D68E9] ⢠⢠⢠RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp [CRC: 99B62D90] ⢠++ Shadowbanish Wine loot.esp [CRC: 46F36949] ⢠59 ShowHideAmulet.esp [CRC: 05DC585D] ⢠++ Artificerens Battlehorn Coblized.esp [CRC: C249C3DC] ⢠5A Better Rosethorn Hall.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: DC1C0874] ⢠++ Better Rosethorn Hall - Cobl Patch.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: 92C239E5] ⢠5B OblivionGateCooldown.esp [CRC: 0B0F1036] ⢠5C Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.3] [CRC: 8295F97B] ⢠5D Chest of Emperor 1.0.esp [CRC: 48EED876] ⢠5E The Imperial Water.esp [CRC: 0681DC92] ⢠5F gardening.esp [CRC: 4DB5E47F] ⢠60 Dark Brotherhood - Sanctuary Resurrected.esp [CRC: 0D3A24D6] ⢠61 No psychic guards v1.2.esp [CRC: C2EF6CAA] ⢠62 KW-AlliesPlayNicer.esp [CRC: D14DBD05] ⢠63 Lootable Merchant Chests.esp [CRC: 43931719] ⢠64 CLS-OldFriends-OBSE.esp [CRC: DA9FB535] ⢠65 Pickpocket Sleeping NPC.esp [CRC: 6F9C613B] ⢠66 DS Portable Sorters.esp [Version 1.3] [CRC: C6B53AC2] ⢠67 Random Ruins of the First Era.esp [CRC: B82D4248] ⢠68 ReviveEssentials.esp [CRC: 85F92C15] ⢠69 Summon Shadowmere.esp [CRC: 8E7ECB0D] ⢠++ TravelersOfCyrodiilPatch.esp [CRC: 9C8F9A26] ⢠6A Unlimited Rings and Amulets v1.1.esp [CRC: A0FB93FC] ⢠++ Unused Magic Items Integrated.esp [CRC: 49CA6DFF] ⢠6B Addon.esp [CRC: 64BEE547] ⢠6C CM Partners Orcs by Howabominable.esp [CRC: D35CA04A] ⢠6D Vvardenfell_Imports.esp [CRC: C2564B5B] ⢠⢠⢠Lost Sorceries of the Ayleids.esp [CRC: BC8C60E4] ⢠6E CM Partners Argonians by Howabominable.esp [CRC: 0AEC11A9] ⢠6F Water's Edge Reborn.esp [CRC: 9320B0DD] ⢠70 CM Partners Khajits by Howabominable.esp [CRC: 9D46FF63] ⢠71 Blessings.esp [CRC: 8701CEA3] ⢠72 qNS3-inventrix.esp [CRC: B0C38F50] ⢠++ DLCMapMarkersEnabled.esp [CRC: 8A5F9FE7] ⢠73 RangerArmour.esp [CRC: 56C16937] ⢠74 Finding My Religion â Daedric Princes.esp [CRC: AA3F8AD2] ⢠75 EleidonsWard.esp [CRC: 79618CAC] ⢠76 Arielles Museum Cyrodiili.esp [CRC: 5F9EB9A1] ⢠77 Zira's Horse Modpack - My Horses.esp [CRC: 972354B0] ⢠78 Camping.esp [CRC: 781E226E] ⢠79 DaedricScimitar.esp [CRC: B0346551] ⢠7A Maborelshorsefast.esp [CRC: DF383D7A] ⢠7B Finding My Religion â Nine Divines.esp [CRC: B50A24E9] ⢠++ UlrichVoiceFix.esp [CRC: 151A46C0] ⢠7C tq3-Blood-and-Gold.esp [CRC: 6FB8C0BD] ⢠7D AgronakGroMalogDeadlyChallenge.esp [CRC: 48650A72] ⢠7E Gods_Gifts.esp.esp [CRC: A0C33D60] ⢠⢠⢠Knights - Cobl.esp [Version 2.6] [CRC: BFCEAD64] ⢠7F DMRangerArmor.esp [CRC: D8A46916] ⢠80 BattleHorn Castle Horses.esp [CRC: 0C3352A4] ⢠81 NordBattleWolfV2.esp [CRC: 9C7E3347] ⢠82 Alyeid Dagger.esp [CRC: 4B920EE8] ⢠83 Retrieving Morovir3.0.esp [CRC: E5163291] ⢠84 Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands.esp [Version 2.01] [CRC: F304FED6] ⢠85 Zira's Horse Modpack - Friesian Horses.esp [CRC: EE721D76] ⢠++ Zira's Horse Modpack - Shadowmere.esp [CRC: 7BEABDEE] ⢠86 Anvil-Final.esp [CRC: C67BDE1E] ⢠87 Maigrets House Cats.esp [CRC: BF1A5766] ⢠88 Reznod_Mannequin.esp [CRC: 80D94BBD] ⢠89 TheSongofPelinalv10.esp [CRC: 89CD27C4] ⢠8A the truth.esp [CRC: B0E40511] ⢠8B lTraveler's Tent.esp [Version 1.2] [CRC: 443804E2] ⢠++ lTravelers Tent - Magic Fire.esp [CRC: 16F5B91E] ⢠++ lTraveler's Tent COBL Patch.esp [CRC: 641F40BA] ⢠8C EM_FarmAnimals1.esp [CRC: C5F59A89] ⢠8D Moon and Star Reborn.esp [CRC: 9C4F3DDC] ⢠8E UmbSnailAncestorsGuidebook.esp [CRC: 226D6083] ⢠8F Vilverin Start Stuff.esp [CRC: 2F4A7435] ⢠90 demonocus-chestofgoditems.esp [CRC: 3CA85602] ⢠91 Rogue Mage & Scoundrel.esp [CRC: 89A7277F] ⢠⢠⢠ROC Standard Road Record.esp [CRC: E300E526] ⢠92 Advanced Followers.esp [CRC: 9372BD93] ⢠++ CompanionHorseSupportFIX forCMPartners.esp [CRC: A59D96D2] ⢠93 No More Wild Goose Chases.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: 1443B975] ⢠++ FunnySkillDescs.esp [CRC: 318181F3] ⢠94 ElsweyrImporter.esp [CRC: 7CAB5AA8] ⢠95 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1] [CRC: D538B7E2] ⢠96 DLCFrostcragCoblAddons.esp [CRC: BF0955A6] ⢠97 Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp [Version 1.2.5] [CRC: 04967F21] ⢠98 TQ1-loveletters.esp [CRC: A85C49CD] ⢠99 New skill - Unarmored.esp [Version 1.2] [CRC: E30D84CC] ⢠⢠⢠Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp [Version 5.0] [CRC: 968F569D] ⢠++ Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp [Version 5.0] [CRC: 506AFA75] ⢠⢠⢠Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp [Version 5.0] [CRC: 92FC7A57] ⢠++ LandMagicPatch.esp [CRC: B92B87AD] ⢠++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] [CRC: A066EBDE] ⢠⢠⢠DLC_MOBS.esp [Version 2.0] [CRC: F6F8A6C0] ⢠9A Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: BCED8066] ⢠9B Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [Version 4.9.4.2] [CRC: 47352219] ⢠9C MOO MOBS Patch.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 37FD9AE3] Edited January 7, 2022 by fireheather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrayy Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 if you want to have a stable game and you use a capable mod manager like mo/mo2 just deactivate all suspicious mods one by one until game starts. in worst case the last mod you deactivate is the source. never install/activate more than one at a time! test your mods and read the mod threads before you install to exclude known problems. your mod list is pretty long like mine. i do not use wrye or any other sorting tool apart from mo (uses loot but let you manually chose) and i have no instabilities at all with over 200 mods.texture mods are mostly harmless, if they include meshes one buggy mesh can already result in ctd and pretty much any other mod with a complex structure can also potentially ctd. check also for buggy ini settings or test with vanilla settings.if you have no clue at all you can also start with a new vanilla game and add all mods one by one with testing until the game crashes to exclude the source of ctd. with using mo as mod manager i did this exactly one time six years ago and never again since then for oblivion.I play also with an additional vanilla profile (all mods deactivated) to be able to test mods in vanilla environment. if your mod manager does not offer such a convenient profile management feature and has no simple and reliable mod deactivation capability i recommend to kick your present mod manager and to try mo/mo2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireheather Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 I use Wrye Bash, Loot, and occasionally BOSS. Thanks for the advice. I usually try to do the reading of every readme before I install mods. I've learned my lesson there. I was hoping I missed something obvious. Trial and error it is. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivionaddicted Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) MessageLogger?Cleaned your mods with TES4Edit? Edited January 8, 2022 by Oblivionaddicted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireheather Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) MessageLogger?Cleaned your mods with TES4Edit? Yep to both.It occurred to me that you probably wanted the log itself from messagelogger. Sorry. 2022/01/09 06:25:12 [00553288] [WARNING] Unable to load CTL file2022/01/09 06:25:12 [0041154A] [ DEBUG ] SceneGraph 'World' Created. Camera name 'CreateNewCamera'.2022/01/09 06:25:12 [0041154A] [ DEBUG ] SceneGraph 'Menu' Created. Camera name 'CreateNewCamera'.2022/01/09 06:25:12 [0041154A] [ DEBUG ] SceneGraph '3DMenu' Created. Camera name 'CreateNewCamera'.2022/01/09 06:25:12 [00574A68] [WARNING] Font file not found: Data\Fonts\Kingthings_Regular.fnt. 2022/01/09 06:25:12 [00574A68] [WARNING] Font file not found: Data\Fonts\Kingthings_Shadowed.fnt. 2022/01/09 06:25:12 [00574A68] [WARNING] Font file not found: Data\Fonts\Tahoma_Bold_Small.fnt. 2022/01/09 06:25:12 [00574A68] [WARNING] Font file not found: Data\Fonts\Daedric_Font.fnt. 2022/01/09 06:25:12 [00574A68] [WARNING] Font file not found: Data\Fonts\Handwritten.fnt. Edited January 9, 2022 by fireheather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireheather Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 Ok this is solved. It was so simple a thing that I'm almost embarrassed to admit it. Apparently my install order was off and every time I deleted the oblivion file, one drive (which unbeknownst to me) had started backing up my documents and restoring them every time I logged on. ......I really don't like additions like that. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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