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I know this is an old problem, but even so, I still didn't manage to find a solution for it.

 

Some of the windows in CK are too big for the screen and they can't be resized. The problem is their height. The bottom part of those windows is below the screen and it cannot be moved up, so a lot of options in those windows are cut off.

 

Has anyone found a working solution for this?

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An option would be that when you need to access those buttons, go into your desktop controls and change the layout to portrait instead of landscaped. Yes, your desktop will then be sideways but the buttons at the bottom of those troublesome windows should be accessible.

 

Another option would be that once you know what buttons are inaccessible, look up the key binds for them and use those as needed.

 

And if it is just the OK button that is the issue, after learning how many "tabs" it takes to get there from a certain field, you can just press tab the correct number of time and then press enter.

 

And the not as viable option, if you have a second monitor, extend your desktop across both and tell Windows that one of them is below the other (even if they are actually side by side).

 

You can also check to see if you monitor and graphics card support a higher resolution. See if changing resolution allows the inaccessible parts to become accessible.

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I'm on a laptop. The biggest resolution I have is 1920x1080 (and it's set on that).

My text and app size is set to 125%, but lowering it to 100% (the smallest available) doesn't change anything.

I've also tried changing DPI settings, and there was no effect aside from variations in visual clarity. The size of the windows that are already resizable does change, but the problematic windows are the same.

 

Flipping it on the side is out of the question. A lot of cables are ported into it, it's raised on a sloped cooling platform, and when I switch to portrait my cursor goes bonkers.

 

It's not that just some buttons are inaccessible, but also some of the functions that require user input, like Reference Alias window (everything below Alias Data section title is cut off).

 

Is there no way to resize the CK windows themselves? Is there an .ini value that can do this?

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Didn't mean to imply that you should flip the screen itself sideways, just change the desktop display temporarily. But using the mouse while the display is "sideways" takes some practice that is for sure.

 

The CreationKitPrefs.ini would be the file to look at to see if there is anything there that could help.

 

However, I have the exact same resolution (1920x1080) and none of the CK windows are cut off. I wonder if there might be additional Windows settings that are affecting your desktop display.

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Would you be able to share your CreationKitPrefs.ini with me? So I could compare the values.

I don't know why would Windows mess up this program only, everything else works fine.

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You can use Notepad++ to edit your .ini files. First, always make a safety copy of your ini.

For the CreationKitPref.ini, you then doubleclick on the word "window" and all those will be lighted in green. You have Render window, CK Archive, CK Error, Papyrus Properties, Papyrus Script Pick etc.

Each have four parameter being the window size. You can tweak them until you find the best config for you.

Beware of the Window operating system font size, if you set them at more than 100%, it will mess up your CK.

 

Warning with resizing in the .ini: When changing the height, it can HIDE the OK/Cancel boxes.

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I'd recommend a side by side comparison rather than replacing directly. Especially since my file path probably differs from yours and you certainly do not want to use my mod prefix.

 

 

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You can use Notepad++ to edit your .ini files. First, always make a safety copy of your ini.

For the CreationKitPref.ini, you then doubleclick on the word "window" and all those will be lighted in green. You have Render window, CK Archive, CK Error, Papyrus Properties, Papyrus Script Pick etc.

Each have four parameter being the window size. You can tweak them until you find the best config for you.

Beware of the Window operating system font size, if you set them at more than 100%, it will mess up your CK.

 

Warning with resizing in the .ini: When changing the height, it can HIDE the OK/Cancel boxes.

I know how to edit .ini files, thank you :)

And changing the height is actually the point because certain buttons are already hidden. The values should be smaller.

 

 

I'd recommend a side by side comparison rather than replacing directly. Especially since my file path probably differs from yours and you certainly do not want to use my mod prefix.

 

 

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Thank you, Ishara :) Don't worry, I already said I just want to compare the values.

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