Mod Ratings Diatribe

[Drakron]

I do not think a thumbs up/down would work for the same reason the rating system does not work.

 

Lets say I see a mod that I find that adds nothing ... maybe its just Breast Power Armor, or some kind of player house that is bigger that Rivet City or Yet Another (House) Vault and I thumb it down because I do not really like those mods.

 

At what point it ceases to be my opinion and starts to be "trolling" or "hating"?

 

At this point I feel it simply better off to scrap the whole rating system.

[TGBlank]

Actually, counting the number of 10s a mod gets is decently accurate to measure quality/popularity.

[buddah]

I think we should change it as well........you can't rate until you have uploaded a mod.

 

Simple and would be quite fair, if you want to sit in judgment of the works of others, put yours up so we can tell you what we think.

 

Buddah

[dimon99]

I do not think a thumbs up/down would work for the same reason the rating system does not work.

 

Lets say I see a mod that I find that adds nothing ... maybe its just Breast Power Armor, or some kind of player house that is bigger that Rivet City or Yet Another (House) Vault and I thumb it down because I do not really like those mods.

 

Hehe, you DON't have a thumb down option - it simply doesn't exist. If you don't like it-you simply ignore it. That's exactly how image share ratings are now- and this very simple system proved to be VERY effective and fair.

 

@ Buddah This is actually very good idea, if a little "discriminating". At least person, who bothered to actually make something will be aware of all problems and limitations associated with modding and rate the mod based on it's functionality and ingame performance, not on personal preferences. Why? Because 99.9% of modders are just a players who customise junk for THEMSELVES , files are uploaded either because they were asked for or just as contribution, as a payback for other modders. But that fact somehow eludes "general user" very often. Some people somehow thinking that mods were made for THEM ,when in fact mods were just made AVAILABLE for them. And every modder at least understands that fact.

[KrazyKommy]

I very well agree with Dimon99 on going with something like he suggested, generally most the people response to a better rating system is the way to go. as most said the Nexus is generally filled with a lot of way too highly rate mods, and in general theres barely any room for constructive criticism just a whole bunch of yes men and trollers getting banned. There is also another big problem with the way comments and rating is done on this site. Too much criticism and screaming by people who have never modded in their lives yet will criticize excessively on a persons work when they have no basis or credentials to do so. so I agree the site should restrict rating to among modders.

 

Because 99.9% of modders are just a players who customize junk for THEMSELVES , files are uploaded either because they were asked for or just as contribution, as a payback for other modders. But that fact somehow eludes "general user" very often. Some people somehow thinking that mods were made for THEM ,when in fact mods were just made AVAILABLE for them. And every modder at least understands that fact.

 

I have discussed this subject extensively in comment pages and with my team over a Project Valhalla. theres certainly a large amount of a seemingly childlike mentality among the site user and commenter's who believe each and every mod was made for them. again this can result in several trolls and flaming because a mod that was created and released at the good-will for the mod author isn't for them. Most mods as said are and were created in the interest of the modder and not designed to meet every individuals needs and taste. It gets incredibly annoying when a user rates down a mod or flames a mod because the fact the mod doesn't do or have something they themselves want. Again this ignores the hopefully real intent of a comments section. Which is to provide constructive criticism. the site truly needs a overhaul in the way the rating system is done especially with the whole top 50 thing. Which I believe doesn't really represent the "Best" mods, but has more given over to a mob rule situation.

[Dragarr]

I see we got Justice... and the bad rating was removed.

The above is the perfect example of why there are no low rated mods.

The rating in question was honest and accurate and used no faul language but as it was a rating under 7 it was considered an insult to the uploader and removed.

 

Any time I have seen a low rating it has been removed within a few days with the comment "If you don't like the mod do not rate it at all", which leaves only the high numbers for any mod.

 

I can already envision people getting ready to flame with my join date that I am too new to know anything, I have been lurking on Nexus since Morrowind and have seen many ratings.

[JimboUK]

I like the thumbs up system, it's basically what I do now anyway with a 10 being the thumbs up.

[IceDragon987]

A thumbs up, no thumbs down system would work great.

 

I'm tired of the childlike mentality among these commenters.

 

I remember a commenter gave a mod a 1 because he believed that the mod shouldn't even be up on nexus because he thinks its a terrible idea, when 40 others give it a "Thumbs up" (9-10) because it does what its supposed to and is a fun mod.

 

It just aggrivates me, which is probably why I will upload with ratings disabled.

 

EDIT: Horrid grammar/spelling :wallbash:

[Interfer0]

Maybe if the site had a volunteer team of mod critics, then when each mod comes in they can rate the mod. You would be able to go to the critics profile, and see which mods they like, and dislike. The critics would be able to change their vote, in case a new release changed the mod enough to make it better. You could leave the normal rating system in place too, that way people can still express how they feel about the mod.

[IceDragon987]

To the above poster:

Thats a very well thought idea but you just danced around the main problem. Just a standard "Thumbs up" rating would work fine without the need to implement anything else.

 

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To the genearl reader:

Someone stated earlier to have two rating systems, I'll modify it a bit.

 

The standard Thumbs up rating system then a Content rating system.

 

Thumbs up: for the effort and the general idea of the thing as well if people liked the mod. (Popularity)

Content: "Perfect!""Needs more content" "Needs to refine current content" (The way to tell if a mod is something you may be interested in)

 

A system along the lines I stated above (Credit to those who have already stated it already) would work wonderfully while involving the whole community.

 

The children (a metaphore for the flamers and the like) will go away and modders will upload mods, old and new like because only the only way you can move now is UP on the ratings! :-D

 

Short- No negative critism means more mods on nexus!