Talon Company keeps on crashing my game!

[Flatchester]

My game keeps on crashing whenever I meet or come face to face with the Talon Company Mercs. I've done the multicore crash fix, the stutter remover, and windowed mode and am running mods like FWE and MMM that would usually effect the Talon Company leveling lists. It seems that I always run into problems with this game no matter how hard I tweak it. . .

 

[Aonghus]

There's a known bug with FWE and the Talon company loot lists, but that shouldn't affect you until you're looting the corpses.

Two questions:

1). (A perennial favorite:) WHAT'S YOUR LOAD ORDER!?!. Without knowing what's running, it's almost impossible to diagnose a problem.

2). Have you looked at the Talon Company (NPCs, armor and weapons) with FO3 Edit? Just seeing what is modifying the assets used will usually point you towards the problem.

[Flatchester]

Very Well, my load order I did with the help of BOSS

 

 

Fallout3.esm=1

Anchorage.esm=1

ThePitt.esm=1

BrokenSteel.esm=1

PointLookout.esm=1

Zeta.esm=1

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1

HairPack.esm=1

CRAFT.esm=1

CALIBR.esm=1

AWorldOfPainFO3.esm=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm=1

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm=1

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm=1

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm=1

DarNifiedUIF3.esp=1

CASM.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp=1

RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp=1

RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp=1

DTOMRC3.esp=1

2nd Home at Tenpennys [Engl].esp=1

MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp=1

MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities less NPCs.esp=1

MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp=1

NPC Response Expansion.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp=1

RH_FWE_Bridge.esp=1

WeaponModKits.esp=1

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp=1

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp=1

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp=1

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp=1

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp=1

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp=1

Burnification.esp=1

FalloutFood.esp=1

FalloutFoods - FWE Master Release.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp=1

bittercup_comp.esp=1

Sydney Follower.esp=1

Sydney Follower - FWE Dialog Fix.esp=1

FleshBurningPlasma.esp=1

Fellout-pipboylight.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp=1

Fellout-Full.esp=1

Fellout-Anchorage.esp=1

Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp=1

Fellout-PointLookout.esp=1

Fellout-Zeta.esp=1

F3UmpaAnimation.esp=1

The Groovatron.esp=1

The Groovatron_DLC_Anch_Addon.esp=1

The Groovatron_DLC_Pitt_Addon.esp=1

The Groovatron_DLC_PL_Addon.esp=1

Sydney Follower - Load Order Fix.esp=1

Cross.esp=1

Blackened FWE + MMM.esp=1

GhoulRadio.esp=1

RH_WMK_Bridge.esp=1

Ross 1.1.esp=1

[Aonghus]

Just on a run through, I had a major problem with the Crowded Cities mod and ended up having to drop it from my game. IIRC, it does modify the Talon Company, so that might be a good place to start looking.

[M48A5]

You should only use one Crowded Cities, not both. Also, move WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp=1 so that it is below the DLC patches. That way they won't overwrite the FWE patch.

Edited September 17, 2013 by M48A5

[Flatchester]

Thanks for the suggestions! I'll try it out to see if it works. BTW, it only crashes whenever i meet the Talons in random encounters only, when raiding their base next to the sewer waystation combat went normally for me ( I died).

[Flatchester]

They're still crashing the game :dry: But I notice whenever I go full auto on my assault rifle it usually crashes, so maybe thats the problem? (Check out my load order).

 

Fallout3.esm=1

Anchorage.esm=1

ThePitt.esm=1

BrokenSteel.esm=1

PointLookout.esm=1

Zeta.esm=1

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1

HairPack.esm=1

CRAFT.esm=1

CALIBR.esm=1

AWorldOfPainFO3.esm=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm=1

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm=1

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm=1

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm=1

BelthansQuoVagis.esm=1

DarNifiedUIF3.esp=1

CASM.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp=1

RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp=1

RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp=1

RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp=1

DTOMRC3.esp=1

2nd Home at Tenpennys [Engl].esp=1

CanterburyCommonsInteriors.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp=1

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp=1

RH_FWE_Bridge.esp=1

WeaponModKits.esp=1

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp=1

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp=1

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp=1

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp=1

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp=1

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp=1

Burnification.esp=1

FalloutFood.esp=1

FalloutFoods - FWE Master Release.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp=1

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp=1

bittercup_comp.esp=1

Sydney Follower.esp=1

Sydney Follower - FWE Dialog Fix.esp=1

FleshBurningPlasma.esp=1

Fellout-pipboylight.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp=1

Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp=1

Fellout-Full.esp=1

Fellout-Anchorage.esp=1

Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp=1

Fellout-PointLookout.esp=1

Fellout-Zeta.esp=1

F3UmpaAnimation.esp=1

The Groovatron.esp=1

The Groovatron_DLC_Anch_Addon.esp=1

The Groovatron_DLC_Pitt_Addon.esp=1

The Groovatron_DLC_PL_Addon.esp=1

Sydney Follower - Load Order Fix.esp=1

Cross.esp=1

GhoulRadio.esp=1

BQV2CCI.esp=1

RH_WMK_Bridge.esp=1

Blackened FWE + MMM.esp=1

Ross 1.2.esp=1

[BlackRampage]

Try disabling any mods that modify weapons. (like WMK and RH ironsights)

 

If that works, try putting their respective compatibility patches all the way at the bottom of your load order.

 

Speaking of which, weather mods (like Fellout and Enhanced Weather) are also best placed all the way at the bottom of your load order.

[Flatchester]

Don't worry, I just had some textures left over from EVE that were causing me problems. Got it fixed now.