CTD on Startup, loadorder related i hink

[rotwhip]

im not sure whats up, but im getting a CTD on startup, and im fairly certain its mod related, but im not sure whats conflicting, so im coming here for help

heres my load order, already tried BOSS, didnt work

GameMode=FalloutNV

FalloutNV.esm=1

DeadMoney.esm=1

HonestHearts.esm=1

OldWorldBlues.esm=1

LonesomeRoad.esm=1

GunRunnersArsenal.esm=1

ClassicPack.esm=1

MercenaryPack.esm=1

TribalPack.esm=1

CaravanPack.esm=1

CFWNV.esm=1

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm=1

More Perks.esm=1

More Perks for Companions.esm=1

More Traits.esm=1

NVInteriors_Core.esm=1

NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm=1

NVR-Strip.esm=1

Project Nevada - Core.esm=1

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm=1

ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm=1

ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm=1

oHUD.esm=1

New Vegas Redesigned II.esm=1

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp=1

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp=1

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm=1

SomeguySeries.esm=1

Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm=1

CASM.esp=1

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp=1

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp=1

NVR-NPCs.esp=1

NVR-ELECTRO-CTIY_Patch.esp=1

NVR-Version_10.esp=1

avangraffscorned.esp=1

betsybrahmin.esp=1

kochandbohr.esp=1

NewVegasBounties.esp=1

outsidebets.esp=1

Pacersgambit.esp=1

rotfacetoriches.esp=1

More Perks Update.esp=1

More Perks for Companions Update.esp=1

More Traits Update.esp=1

ammoingredientsloot.esp=1

Better Tag Skills.esp=1

pipboy2500_edisleado.esp=1

PortableCampsite.esp=1

LFox Missing Ammo Recipes.esp=1

LFox Missing Ammo Recipes HH DLC.esp=1

clintsfistfulrevolver.esp=1

ilbuonorevolver.esp=1

Armored Duster.esp=1

Boacombat2glove.esp=1

boa ncrpahelmet.esp=1

Dark Justice Duster.esp=1

manwithnoname.esp=1

NCR Ranger Helmet Neck Cover.esp=1

NVR- Recommended.esp=1

New Vegas redesigned- Honest Hearts.esp=1

Voice dissonance fix.esp=1

BrighterPipboyLight.esp=1

Burning CampFire.esp=1

Delay DLC - DM + HH + OWB + LR + GRA.esp=1

Easy Unlocking and Easy Hacking and Guaranteed Pick Pocket.esp=1

LFox Bottle That Water.esp=1

Quicker PipBoy Light-0_2Sec.esp=1

WeaponModsExpanded.esp=1

WMX-ModernWeapons.esp=1

WMX-DeadMoney.esp=1

WMX-HonestHearts.esp=1

WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp=1

WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp=1

WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp=1

WMX-MW-GRA.esp=1

WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp=1

WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp=1

EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp=1

WMX-EVE-AllDLC.esp=1

Vurt's WFO.esp=1

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp=1

ILO - GS Shack.esp=1

Improved Ballistics Effects V2.esp=1

CFW-DLC.esp=1

fnvrwlo - original.esp=1

fnvrwlo - brighter nights.esp=1

MTB.esp=1

LFox Missing Ammo Recipes GRA DLC.esp=1

DYNAVISION 3.esp=1

BrighterPipboyLightRed.esp=0

BrighterPipboyLightBlue.esp=0

BrighterPipboyLightAmber.esp=1

I Got Spurs.esp=1

WMX-EVE-NoGRA.esp=1

WMX-EVE-NoDLC.esp=1

EVE FNV - NO GRA.esp=1

EVE FNV - NO DLC.esp=1

hope you guys can help! :D

[ma1025]

Put the two EVE plugins before WMX-EVE

 

Also, you're using all three versions of EVE and WMX-EVE.

 

Use only the All DLC versions of both.

Edited October 2, 2013 by ma1025

[rotwhip]

nope, still CTDs,

 

im also using NVSE launcher btw

 

not sure if that helps

 

could there be anything else?

Edited October 2, 2013 by rotwhip

[ma1025]

First, I'm going to recommend you use the More Perks Merge from NVEC.

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/44204/

 

(Ctrl+F More Perks Merged Installation and follow the instructions)

 

Another recommendation is to use the Ultimate Edition of WMX, since you have all the DLC. Pick up the PN and EVE patchs as well.

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/39651/

 

I also didn't see anywhere that you were using Modern Weapons so I removed all plugins referencing it.

==

 

 

FalloutNV.esm=1
DeadMoney.esm=1
HonestHearts.esm=1
OldWorldBlues.esm=1
LonesomeRoad.esm=1
GunRunnersArsenal.esm=1
ClassicPack.esm=1
MercenaryPack.esm=1
TribalPack.esm=1
CaravanPack.esm=1
YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm=1
oHUD.esm=1
Project Nevada - Core.esm=1
Project Nevada - Equipment.esm=1
CFWNV.esm=1
SomeguySeries.esm=1
More Perks.esm=1 (The Merged One)
NVInteriors_Core.esm=1
NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm=1
New Vegas Redesigned II.esm=1
NVR-Strip.esm=1
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm=1
Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm=1
ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm=1
ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm=1
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp=1
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp=1
pipboy2500_edisleado.esp=1
BrighterPipboyLight.esp=1
Quicker PipBoy Light-0_2Sec.esp=1
CASM.esp=1
Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp=1
Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp=1
NewVegasBounties.esp=1
Delay DLC - DM + HH + OWB + LR + GRA.esp=1
avangraffscorned.esp=1
betsybrahmin.esp=1
kochandbohr.esp=1
Pacersgambit.esp=1
rotfacetoriches.esp=1
outsidebets.esp=1
manwithnoname.esp=1
Better Tag Skills.esp=1
Easy Unlocking and Easy Hacking and Guaranteed Pick Pocket.esp=1
LFox Bottle That Water.esp=1
Voice dissonance fix.esp=1
Burning CampFire.esp=1
ammoingredientsloot.esp=1
PortableCampsite.esp=1
LFox Missing Ammo Recipes.esp=1
LFox Missing Ammo Recipes HH DLC.esp=1
LFox Missing Ammo Recipes GRA DLC.esp=1
MTB.esp=1 (I don't actually know what this is)
NVR-Version_10.esp=1
NVR- Recommended.esp=1
NVR-NPCs.esp=1
New Vegas redesigned- Honest Hearts.esp=1
NVR-ELECTRO-CTIY_Patch.esp=1
Armored Duster.esp=1
Dark Justice Duster.esp=1
Boacombat2glove.esp=1
boa ncrpahelmet.esp=1
I Got Spurs.esp=1
NCR Ranger Helmet Neck Cover.esp=1
CFW-DLC.esp=1
clintsfistfulrevolver.esp=1
ilbuonorevolver.esp=1
WMXUE.esp
WMXUE-ArenovalisTextures.esp
WMXUE-PN.esp

EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp=1
WMXUE-EVE.esp=1
Improved Ballistics Effects V2.esp=1
Vurt's WFO.esp=1
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
ILO - GS Shack.esp=1
fnvrwlo - original.esp=1
fnvrwlo - brighter nights.esp=1
DYNAVISION 3.esp=1

 

Edited October 3, 2013 by ma1025

[rotwhip]

thanks, ill see if this works

[ma1025]

You need to learn FNVEdit to make a patch for all your mods using the "Copy as override into..." and making a new module to make everything run together properly.

 

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/34703//?

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/38413//?

[rotwhip]

erm, heh, it crashed quicker this time...

 

want me to post the loadorder again?

Edited October 3, 2013 by rotwhip

[ma1025]

Go ahead.

 

Open all your active plugins in FNVEdit first and when it gives you an error, tell me what plugin caused it and why. It should say in the message box on the right.

Edited October 3, 2013 by ma1025

[bjornl]

I agree with MA1025 but thought what they said might be unclear and incomplete.

 

Get FNVEdit. When you run it it will open a window with all the mods selected that are active and inactive in your load-order. Just click on 'ok' and FNVEdit will analyze the list for obvious conflicts. For example if you have a missing file. If bob.esp needs a doug.esp which needs mckenzie.esm FNVEdit would spot as an error

[x] mckenzie.esm

[ ] doug.esp

[x] bob.esp

 

Similarly it would catch as an error

[x] mckenzie.esm

[x] bob.esp

[x] doug.esp

 

But if mckenzie.esm does nothing without bob and doug, it will not catch as an error

[x] mckenzie.esm

[ ] bob.esp

[ ] doug.esp

It will also not automatically detect errors like:

bob.esp puts a doughtnut in the worldspace Greatwhitenorth.

doug.esp puts a beer in the worldspace Greatwhitenorth at the exact same co-ordinates.

But this sort of conflict can be resolved with a merge patch. A merge patch does not merge your files it creates a conflict resolution file. In the above example, it would resolve the conflict by placing a beer there since doug.esp came last.

To create a merge patch, start FNVEdit, load all your mods. Wait for it to finish loading. Resolve errors (if any), Right click in the left window (the list of your loaded files), select OTHER then CREATE MERGE PATCH.

Also your MOD list shows yup loaded fairly late in the load order. The mod author suggests that it be as early as possible. I suggest right after the DLCs.

Also make sure you are not loading redundant or unused files.

EVE for all DLC and EVE for no DLC = crash.

WMXUE and WMX = problems.

Load WMXUE late in the load order as it is very finicky.

[rotwhip]

ok, quick update,

fiddled around with it and figured out the problem.

 

aparently, it was not a load order problem as i first thought, it was instead a problem resulting from my recklessness in installing the mods in the first place. (i just got the game and being overconfident with my modding knowledge, i downloaded a bunch of mods, [patches and core mods] and installed ALL of them without thinking much of it.)

 

....yeah

 

so what pretty much happened was that i installed patches before the core, i (as bjornl said), put EVE dlc and no dlc together, i used WMXUE and WMX together, and other assorted stupids.

 

so what i did was uninstalled everything, and CAREFULLY installed things, keeping your input in mind

 

thanks for all your input, much appreciated, and new vegas is working like a charm.

 

EDIT: sorry i didnt post the second load-order, i got frustrated and took a break, and forgot about it for like, a week.

heh....

Edited October 12, 2013 by rotwhip