PureSnipe Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Simple, They keep records of who the Fire Arms licences go to. If they haven't been doing that, then your government has already failed, and has just provoked gun crimes. Right. So, the longest-standing legal document in history has failed.You're letting personal opinions get in way of fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureSnipe Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 NRA.ORG"Less than 1/2 of 1% of guns that are legally obtained are used for crimes. These include guns stolen from break-ins and domestic violence." Now, if you want to argue that outlawing the purchase of guns is practical. Go ahead.You'll theoretically reduce crime by .5% and piss off an entire nation. Weigh the options here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javalin Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 You haven't answered the fact that: If guns weren't sold on the street by storesIf guns weren't legal in the first place There'd still be gun crime? People would be getting shot every 5minutes without anyone giving a damn? I'll let you decide that for yourself. You said guns are legalised for a tyrannical government - Really? Looks like they are just trying to provoke a civil war (That hasn't happened in 100 years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureSnipe Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 You haven't answered the fact that: If guns weren't sold on the street by storesIf guns weren't legal in the first place There'd still be gun crime? People would be getting shot every 5minutes without anyone giving a damn? I'll let you decide that for yourself. You said guns are legalised for a tyrannical government - Really? Looks like they are just trying to provoke a civil war (That hasn't happened in 100 years) People would easily obtain them from the black market in Mexico. I have said that.And if we want to base things on personal views, I'll say that your government has outlawed guns so that they know the citizens won't stand up against them if they make a decision they don't like.Your background affects your views. There's no way to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javalin Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Then what the hell happened to your Customs officers at the America-Mexican Border? did the candle of the US government not burn bright enough, so they never put that in place either. Our Government will never become Tyrannical. Simple Reasons: 1. People won't vote parties such as BNP, KKK or parties like that. (Even though the arse hats in this country have)2. The Queen would NEVER allow such parties to be even considered for vote.3. Most of the Governmental Decisions go through the Prime Minister, Parliament and the Queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureSnipe Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Then what the hell happened to your Customs officers at the America-Mexican Border? did the candle of the US government not burn bright enough, so they never put that in place either. Our Government will never become Tyrannical. Simple Reasons: 1. People won't vote parties such as BNP, KKK or parties like that. (Even though the arse hats in this country have)2. The Queen would NEVER allow such parties to be even considered for vote.3. Most of the Governmental Decisions go through the Prime Minister, Parliament and the Queen. 3169 km. That's the length of the US Mexico border, not including the gulf. If you'd like to tell me how me monitor a stretch that is longer than the entire nation, please say so. And I'll ignore your comments on our government. I could just as easily make some back at you, but that would be a violation of the terms and conditions that we agreed to, would it not? Or are we supposed to adapt the rules to suit people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureSnipe Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I am an American. I live by the American standards of government. You're a European. You live by the European standards of government. That's as simple as it gets. What you think is right is not what we think is right. What we live by, you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasder Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I am an American. I live by the American standards of government. You're a European. You live by the European standards of government. That's as simple as it gets. What you think is right is not what we think is right. What we live by, you don't. So? He still has a valid opinion. Getting rid of guns in America is pointless now; you'd never get people to turn them in, but America would have been better of if guns had never been legalised, there would be a lot less gun crime. You can't really argue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureSnipe Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I am an American. I live by the American standards of government. You're a European. You live by the European standards of government. That's as simple as it gets. What you think is right is not what we think is right. What we live by, you don't. So? He still has a valid opinion. Getting rid of guns in America is pointless now; you'd never get people to turn them in, but America would have been better of if guns had never been legalised, there would be a lot less gun crime. You can't really argue with that. Possibly. But, that never happened, so we don't know. I won't say I know what would have happened if we had done things differently. But I do like the fact you realize that if we try and change now, it'll be worse than it we leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exanimis Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 At the end of the first post I asked everyone to please keep this civil. Everyone has the right to their own opinion as wasder said. I posted so that I could read others opinions, not so that we could rant and argue. Javilin posted Simple, They keep records of who the Fire Arms licences go to. If they haven't been doing that, then your government has already failed, and has just provoked gun crimes. There are a lot of people world wide who will agree with you. There are governments who control the sale of weapons and keep them from the population. I'll leave with a quote from one famous leader who I'm sure would agree with everything you've stated. "...A CIVILIZED NATION HAS FULL GUN REGISTRATION." - ADOLPH HITLER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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