zoe23323 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Alright, I know you've all heard this before. Some poor gamer whining about how their game crashes without any prompts, just quits to desktop, and they're too lazy to search the internet to find fixes for their common problem. Here's the thing. I'm not one of those lazy gamers. I've searched for hours, did every fix I came across, and still my game crashes. Doesn't even leave a note. Cheap bastard.Before you ask, yes, I have downloaded the 4GB patch, I've done the fix for 32bit Windows Vista (yes, I know it's outdated; my mom's cheap and won't get me Windows 8 ), I've run BOSS, TES5Edit, FNIS, deleted all of my saved games and started a new one, and verified the game cache from the Steam properties. Here's another weird thing I just found. Though my game crashed, no cool little icon that says "Skyrim" on my taskbar, Task Manager still sees that it's open. Not sure if that's related or not, but thought I should include it.Also, to answer the question that must have been bugging you for the past three minutes of reading this, I do mod. A lot. I have about 100 mods installed at the moment, and most of them are cosmetic. I'm a vain b*tch, okay? I need this sort of stuff. If needs arise, I will post my load order, but both BOSS and TES5Edit haven't found any problems in my load order. I've followed all of Gopher's tutorials, so I'm almost positive I've installed everything correctly. That man is a life saver.I know someone is going to ask for specs, so this is what I have:6GB of RAM installedWindows Vista (ewww)32BitGraphics card is an ATI Radon HD 5670 If you need anything else, you might have to tell me where to find it. I may be pretty good at modding and gaming, but I am sh*t when it comes to anything electronic.Any help you can give would be much appreciated. I've been dealing with this for about a week now and I really need my Skyrim fix. It's like an alcohol addiction for nerds. *EDIT*Game used to crash about every two minutes. At first, I thought it was because I was fast traveling, but I decided to play tag with the kids in Whiterun and it crashed then too. Deleted all my saved games, got all the way through the tutorial, and was almost to Riverwood when it crashed again. It crashes now when I try to access one of my old save games, doesn't even let me load in. But somehow, I can get through the tutorial and get halfway to Riverwood before it crashes. I'm going to uninstall all of my mods and try it then, but I'm not sure if that'll work.I have not made any tweaks or edits to the ini files. I'm not that good, for one thing, and I just know I'd mess something up if I did.BOSS Log is right here: These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 619 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 184 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Dragonborn.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 61 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.ApachiiHair.esm ActiveAzarHair.esm ActiveRaceCompatibility.esm ActiveClimatesOfTamriel.esm ActiveLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm ActiveOBlHairFinal.esm ActiveOmegared99-Compilation.esm ActiveSolstheim Climate Overhaul.esm ActiveXvision Children.esmHighResTexturePack01.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack02.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack03.esp ActiveXvision Children - Complete.esp ActiveUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp ActiveUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.espUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Stats}}Serana.esp ActiveSven.esp ActiveChesko_Frostfall.esp ActiveBetter Dynamic Snow.esp ActiveSplashofRain.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp ActiveIHSS.esp ActiveImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Activerandomthunder.esp ActiveSkyrimURWL.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp Active83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Babettes Feast v1_2.esp ActiveBabettesFeastBalanced.esp ActiveWarning: Original file was released before the Creation Kit (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Birdsofskyrim.esp ActiveCatsofskyrim.esp ActiveCookingExpanded.esp ActiveCookingExpanded - Hearthfire.esp ActiveCookingExpanded - Dragonborn.esp ActiveDogsofskyrim.esp ActiveExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp ActiveLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp ActiveNote: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp.marriagedynamicoutfits.esp ActiveMore_Saddles.esp ActiveORM-Arvak.espSkyrim Flora Overhaul.esp ActiveTouringCarriages.espUlfricForFem.esp ActiveUnique BOOZE Bottles.espFootprints.esp ActiveRaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.vAutosaveManager.esp ActiveWetandCold.esp ActiveWetandCold - Ashes.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp ActiveiHUD.esp ActiveBlackSacramentArmor.espBlindfolds_of_Skyrim.esp ActiveCloaks.esp ActiveCloaks - Dawnguard.esp Active1nivWICCloaks.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp ActiveDK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp ActiveGDAttire.esp ActiveGhosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp ActiveLadyLaceCloaks_EN.espLFArmors.esp ActiveMystic.espWarning: Original file was released before the Creation Kit (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)nobledress.esp ActiveNobleFemaleClothes.esp ActiveOmegared99-WeaponSets.esp ActiveStandard-15Percent.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Note: Use only one optional leveled list. (High, Medium, Standard or Uber)True Thief Armor.esp ActiveUnique Uniques.esp Activezz_GDRAHoods.espBeautiful Riften.esp ActiveBeautiful Whiterun.esp ActiveBridge Farm Hearthfire version.esp ActiveConvenient Horse Herding.esp ActivectfdFollower.esp ActiveWarning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.Ebonvale.esp ActiveGildergreen Regrown.esp ActiveHearthfireMultiKid.esp ActiveInconsequential NPCs.esp ActiveRadiance.espRealisticWhiterun.esp ActiveRiverWood Redux.esp ActiveRiverwood Redux Expanded Basement.esp ActiveRun For Your Lives.espScholarsSolace.esp ActiveWSBP - OriFemale.esp ActiveWSBP - OriMale.esp Active360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp ActiveBabette.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 8 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.faster vanilla horses.esp ActiveMore Salt Please.esp ActiveMore Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp ActiveSFO - Expanded Diversity.esp ActiveNote: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.espSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActivedD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espdD-Dragonborn-EBT Patch.espdD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp ActiveIncompatible with: dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espIncompatible with: dD-Dragonborn-EBT Patch.espUncle Sheo does Dawnguard.esp ActiveUncle Sheo does Hearthfire.esp ActiveUncle Sheo does Dragonborn.esp ActiveUncle Sheo does Climates of Tamriel.esp ActiveUncle Sheo does Frostfall.esp ActiveBetter Villages.esp ActiveFalkreath Reborn.esp ActiveEnhancedLightsandFX.esp ActiveELFX - Exteriors.esp ActiveELFX - Dawnguard.esp ActiveCinematicFireFX.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.espClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-5.esp Activeprod80_CoT_patch.esp ActiveRealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Requires: RND_Water-Patch.espRND_BabettesFeast-Patch.esp ActiveRND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveRND_DestructibleBottles-Patch.espRND_HearthFires-Patch.esp ActiveRND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActiveRND_UniqueBoozeBottles-Patch.espNote: The Unique BOOZE Bottles plugin file can be deactivated from your load order with this patch active - but remember to keep the meshes and textures installed.dovahkiinrelax.esp ActivedD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp ActiveCazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp ActiveFh hairs-by zzjay.esp ActiveTheEyesOfBeauty.esp ActiveTribal Warpaint for Females.esp ActiveElvenRace.espTBMTrueSnowElf.espWitch Elf Race.espZazimelDrow.espChildren of Skyrim - NORD PRESETS 11-20.espA Simple Marriage Mod.esp ActiveAtvir.espCompilationV1.esp Activegarm_companion.esp ActiveKitiara.esp ActiveTheMeekoMod.esp ActiveEMCompViljaSkyrim.espEMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espCharacterMakingExtender.esp ActiveEnhancedCharacterEdit.esp Activeethereal_elven_overhaul.esp ActivePurewaters.esp ActivePurewatersDG.esp ActivePurewatersDB.esp ActiveRND_PureWaters-Patch.esp ActiveWATER.espWATER Plants.espWATER DB.espWATER DB Waves.espWarning: Use only one WATER DB esp.Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.espBlacksmithforge water fix DG.espBlacksmithforge water fix DB.espGreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp ActiveCooking Expanded - RND Support.espThe following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.Solstheim Climate Overhaul - COT compatibility.esp ActiveSolstheim Climate Overhaul - Paradise Island Patch.espSolstheim Wasteland.esp ActiveCoT_SnowPatch_NoAurora.esp ActiveCoT_SnowPatch_HQSnowVersion.esp ActiveCoT_SnowPatch.esp ActiveHearthfireMultiKid_LastName.espMoreChildrenItem.esp ActiveChildren of Skyrim - NORD PRESETS 1-10.espHighElfChildren.espShadow of Morrowind.esphopefully this works.espSahrotOdDein.espmerge patch.espmilva - nord face preset.esp Activetyrnapreset.esp ActiveMERCH PATCH.espthis one.espthis thing.espWarhorse Domino.esp ActiveSwift Steeds Replacer essen plus.esp Active Edited October 15, 2013 by zoe23323 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) First, you don't need the '4GB patch' for Skyrim. Skyrim is already LAA enabled since patch whatever. So assuming your Skyrim is updated, you should revert back to the backup exe made prior to applying the '4GB patch', or verify files with Steam. Second, since you are using mods, you need to post details about what mods you are using. So start by posting your BOSS log here (with the messages), just copy/paste the contents of the log and enclose it in a set of spoiler tags so it won't clutter the screen. Do the same for the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generate. Third, we need details about your CTDs: when/where/how often/what you were doing. Anything you have noticed that might suggest a 'pattern' that will help narrow down the cause of the CTDs. Otherwise it would be like fishing for needles in a haystack. Fourth, list any mod you have installed which does not come with plugins, for example, body or texture replacers. This will help us determine if your mod combinations are exceeding your system specs, the game engine limits, or the fact that you are running on a 32-bit OS. Fifth, have you made any tweaks or edits to the game ini files? If so, list the edits or tweaks you have made. This may be relevant to tracking the cause of the CTDs. Edited October 14, 2013 by ripple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mincartoon Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) CTD during game is mainly a problem with the script handler Skyrim uses Papyrus, which is very slow and inefficient for heavy scripts Just fix the skyrim.ini file and give more time for script execution. Well, at least it amazingly reduced the script delay for me, and I haven't got a CTD ever since. [Papyrus]fUpdateBudgetMS=800fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=800fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000 Edited October 14, 2013 by mincartoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 CTD during game is mainly a problem with the script handler There are literally countless reasons why Skyrim CTDs occur. No proper diagnoses can be made without narrowing the possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoe23323 Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 CTD during game is mainly a problem with the script handler Skyrim uses Papyrus, which is very slow and inefficient for heavy scripts Just fix the skyrim.ini file and give more time for script execution. Well, at least it amazingly reduced the script delay for me, and I haven't got a CTD ever since. [Papyrus]fUpdateBudgetMS=800fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=800fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000Tried this, and now it just crashes when I try to load a game. I even tried creating another new game, still crashes when it tries to load. I undid whatever I had to do to get 4GB working, deleted the patch as well. I cleaned all of dirty edits as well, but now BOSS doesn't show that I have Skyrim installed. Not sure what I did, but I'm thinking editing the ini file has something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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