why is my FPS so low?

[huber69]

hi guys.

 

i finished this game as a warrior about 2 years ago, and as the legendary edition released i decided to play it again as a mage. i installed it with many recommended mods and found out my FPS is horrible, and allso the game freezes all the time for about 5-6 secondes. it wasn't so with the original edition without the mods. can you help me realize which mod is murdering my fps? can you tell me how to compile a mod list automatically so i can share it here?

 

im using Nexus Mod Manager and BOSS of-course, my rig is an core i5, 8 giga of ram and a gtx560ti, the game is installed on a ssd drive with window 8 fully updated (drivers, win update etc).

 

thanks in advance! :laugh:

Edited October 18, 2013 by huber69

[Miguelr23]

obvious answer its a mod causing it... :)

now without trolling you can easily max out skyrim with a gtx 560 ti but with mods you will need something more powerful(a newer card at least with 2 gb of vram)the rest of your sistem seems to be capable the only problem is your card

PS: im assuming that at least one of your mods its a texture one

[huber69]

OK, but which mod? i don't want to disable all of them, just the ones who hit the FPS the most. can you help me find them? how do i compile a list of installed mod to share here?

 

btw - in the vanilla variant my fps was just fine with everything on maximum - so yes, i know its one of the mods :blush:

 

not all the mods are on, i disabled the ones i figured would make a lot of difference, tell me if i was wrong:

 

realistic lightning overhaul

 

cinematic fire effect 2 HD

 

realistic smoke and embers

 

 

well, i haven't found a more easy way to compile my mod list so i just took a screenshot:

 

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee424/eranhuba/th_1_zps6a1e9226.jpg

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee424/eranhuba/th_2_zps0e1b0db4.jpg

Edited October 18, 2013 by huber69

[LargeStyle]

Firstly the mod "Revamped Exterior Fog" isn't compatible with Climates of Tamriel - so chose which one to lose.

 

Secondly, the "Fixed Eye Adaption" mod may also be incompatible with CoT so I'd recommend visiting the mods page to check on this.

 

Thirdly, perhaps consider not using the three official HiRes DLC packs (which are mainly 2k textures) and use the following mod instead (which are mainly 1k textures) - it'll provide a small performance boost with little visual impact:

 

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9080/?

 

Fourthly, due to Further Dark Dungeons' presence I presume you're using an ENB? If so which one? ENB can cripple performance if not setup appropriately for your system.

 

Fifthly, you have two water mods installed - WATER and Pure Waters. Chose just one and remove the other.

 

Lastly, do you have any other mods installed that aren't plugins such as unofficial texture mods (Skyrim HD2K)? Plus have you tweaked any .ini files to improve the graphics?

[Miguelr23]

IF you did what Largestyle said and you still have problems remove Static mesh improvement and skyrim flora overhaul

you did good by disabling those 3 mods(im not sure if RLO hits performance you may want to test it)

Edited October 18, 2013 by Miguelr23

[huber69]

LargeStyle - strange, i see the " "Revamped Exterior Fog" and "Fixed Eye Adaption" in the "plugins" tab but i cant find it on the "mods" tab. does it have a different name there or is it a part of another mod?!

 

anyway i disabled them by un-ticking them in the plugins tab - is it enough? i also disabled "Pure Waters" is the mods tab.

 

about the ENB, under which category in the mods tab it is located so i an tell you which one i have installed.

 

haven't touched any inf files, and how can i post the list of my mods without screenshot them? is there a way yo output my mod list from the Nexus mod manager?

 

 

Miguelr23 - i going to see if it helped, if it didn't ill try your recommendations.

[fifteenspades]

ENB is not in your mods list, it will be in your main Skyrim Directory where your skyrimlauncher.exe is.

You need to make your Ini files are modified to work with your ENB, read the main page your w/e enb you are using it will tell you what needs to be changed.

 

Also if your performance issues are mainly noticable with particles around you like snow/leaves/pine etc

Download some reduced textures for them. You can't really tell the difference anyhow in the reduced and non so its basically free performance.

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6387/?tab=2&navtag=%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D6387&pUp=1

 

Also can try Razor Game booster i notice a decent size fps boost with it on so do others

 

I also use this http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/5695//? whether it works for you or not really depends~ some say its just a placebo

Lastly make sure your Video card is not using it's own settings if you use an ENB such as Anti aliasing n such, your enb will take care of that.

( depending on your enb ofc, oh and CoT may not be compatible with your ENB also. )

Edited October 18, 2013 by fifteenspades

[LargeStyle]

 

LargeStyle - strange, i see the " "Revamped Exterior Fog" and "Fixed Eye Adaption" in the "plugins" tab but i cant find it on the "mods" tab. does it have a different name there or is it a part of another mod?!

anyway i disabled them by un-ticking them in the plugins tab - is it enough?

Mods can appear just as an .esp plugin without being within the mod tab if the .esp files are manually placed into Skyrims Data folder, or as you said if they came as part of another mod with another name (which is unlikely). Yes, un-ticking the plugin(s) is fine - just try and find which "other" mod may've used the .esp files just so you know nothing is present that's going to rely or be dependent on the plugins.

 

 

 

about the ENB, under which category in the mods tab it is located so i an tell you which one i have installed.

As fifteenspades touched on, the main files of ENB won't be installed via NMM and are present only in the main Skyrim directory (the one with TES5.exe in it). Some extra ENB related files can be installed via NMM which dependent on these files' types and uses may or may not be plugins (some files add textures, some alter dungeon lighting like the one within your plugin list).

 

There's no normal procedural way to determine which ENB you may have installed. The only real identification that may be present is within the "enbeffect.fx" file which some people write some personalised information at the start of the file, but this is not a mandatory process and it's entirely down to each mod authors discretion. Sometimes an ENB can only be identified by posting in-game pictures into a thread within this forum section simply asking experienced and keen-eyed users for help. You could obviously check your Windows' download files (in My Documents / wherever you download / store your files) and cross-reference files until you ID the correct ENB preset.

 

Anyhoo - what's more important is identifying whether in fact you are using an ENB, and if so, which features of it are enabled and disabled. If you're running ENB then you should see text appear in the top left of the screen when launching Skyrim, if no text is present then ENB isn't installed (or installed correctly). If this text is present then go to your main Skyrim directory and open the file "enbseries.ini" with any text editor program, then copy and paste all of the information within the section entitled [EFFECT] into this thread - mine looks like this...

[EFFECT]
UseOriginalPostProcessing=false
UseOriginalObjectsProcessing=true
EnableBloom=true
EnableAdaptation=true
EnableDepthOfField=false
EnableAmbientOcclusion=true
EnableDetailedShadow=true
EnableSunRays=true
EnableSkyLighting=false
EnableImageBasedLighting=false
EnableReflection=false
EnableSoftParticles=true
EnableParticleLights=true
EnableSunGlare=false
EnableSubSurfaceScattering=true

Also, if you have a file called "enblocal.ini" present then also post the sections: [GLOBAL] and [MEMORY].

 

 

 

haven't touched any inf files, and how can i post the list of my mods without screenshot them? is there a way yo output my mod list from the Nexus mod manager?

Inf files are Windows' driver related files, it's .ini files (which are initiation files) that Skyrim uses, but if they're untouched then this shouldn't be an issue. However things may've become corrupt so you can get Skyrim to regenerate new files - this is quick, easy, and reversable if it "fails". Navigate to your documents folder, then to "My Games\Skyrim" subfolder. Move (not copy) the two files: SkyrimPrefs.ini and Skyrim.ini to somewhere else like your desktop - then launch Skyrim using either the SkyrimLauncher.exe file or within Steam itself. This will generate 2 new files, so you'll need to reset up settings such as resolution, MSAA, AF, view distances etc. If the game doesn't run any better then you can either leave these 2 files alone or delete them and restore the original 2 files back into place.

 

As for the best way to post a mod list, AFAIK it's to use screenshots of NMM. Other methods such as BOSS logs don't cover non-esp mods and I don't think NMM can export a list itself, hence why I recommend the old fashion screen grab process. If you're unaware you can rearrange the tabs within NMM so everything can be displayed on one page.

 

To do this left-click and hold the Mods tab, wait until the screen goes blue and drag the tab into the box outlined in red...

 

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7230/eeag.jpg

 

...then you can left click and hold on the lines that define the borders (in red again) to move things around to you're pleasure...

 

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8195/16e9.jpg

 

Sorry for mentioning this if you already knew this, but thought it worth stating just in case.

 

If you can tell us more information such as your CPU model and speed (just i5 isn't really enough detail) plus which monitor resolution you're playing at, and how much fps you are actually getting (a rough estimate if you don't know exact numbers). Also, is the low fps consistent everywhere or only under certain circumstances / locations.

 

@ fifteenspades - using the computer specification and mod list from huber69 there shouldn't be any major / game breaking fps loss occurring. I think it best to investigate and deal with the problem directly before trying indirect "get-arounds" - which chances are could cause more harm than good if the game is already having problems.

 

 

EDIT: to cover elements mentioned earlier in the thread...

 

A GTX 560Ti isn't ideal, but it is perfectly funcional for a sensibly modded Skyrim, especially when coupled with an i5 CPU.

 

The comment of stutters / freezes to me indicate either ENBoost being out of date (early version caused occasional stutters / freezes for some users), you've somehow exceeded the limits of your computer so when you traverse the environment it struggles to load in the next area, or you have a hardware issue / fault. There are loads more options, but these to me are the most likely culprits.

 

Also, exactly which nVidia driver are you using? I've heard that the latest / current drivers may not play well with Skyrim, especially if ENB is installed. I've personally stayed with 314.22 as it's know to be the most Skyrim / ENB friendly driver. That said I'm doing a new pc build very soon so I may experiment with later drivers just to check this out for myself.

Edited October 18, 2013 by LargeStyle

[myztikrice]

Feel free to also lower your resolution for some free FPS.

[Rennn]

Feel free to also lower your resolution for some free FPS.

 

That's not free fps, it does come at a cost to visual quality. The blur added isn't too bad, but it's not 'free' at all.