Mod conflicts ?

[Bindiman]

I have been trouble shooting my game for a long time now. Determined to nail it. I figured out that it must be a mod conflict. In this scenario, im returning the Jagged Crown to Ulfric. As soon as he finishes his line "Keep your wits about you..." The game CTD's. Now i've gone through the process of disabling all mods and enabling in groups to find out if a mod is doing this, and i've got so far. Which is why i post here. This is my mod list;

 

 

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GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Falskaar.esm=1

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1

JSwords.esm=1

SPIKE.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1

AOS.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp=1

fantasy music overhaul.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1

CS_SoulFragmentsToSoulGems.esp=1

GuessDistance.esp=1

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp=1

Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1

Book Covers Dawnguard.esp=1

Book Covers Hearthfire.esp=1

Book Covers Dragonborn.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1

Convenient Horses.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

Footprints.esp=1

Footprints - Ash.esp=1

RaceMenu.esp=1

RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

BosmerArmorMATY743.esp=1

Cloaks.esp=1

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1

1nivWICCloaks.esp=1

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1

DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp=1

DragonbornArmorFix.esp=1

Elemental Staves.esp=1

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

Insanity's Daedric Sword.esp=1

Insanity's Glass Sword.esp=1

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1

LC_AssassinOfShadownArmor.esp=1

LostLongSwords.esp=1

Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp=1

SilverDragonArmor.esp=1

WWW.esp=1

Dr_Bandolier.esp=1

HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp=1

HarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp=1

HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp=1

DeadlyDragons.esp=1

SkyRe_Main.esp=1

SkyRe_Combat.esp=1

SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp=1

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp=1

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp=1

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp=1

SkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp=1

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp=1

SkyRe_Survivalism.esp=1

SkyRe_HelmlessPerks.esp=1

Unique Uniques.esp=1

PumpingIron.esp=1

RayeksEnd.esp=1

RiversideLodge.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1

Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1

Thunderchild - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.esp=1

AchieveThat.esp=1

FalskaarDawnguard.esp=1

OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp=1

SkyFalls Plus SkyMills - All DLC and Falskaar.esp=1

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1

BFT Ships and Carriages - HF.esp=1

RealisticRoomRental.esp=1

RRR_Hearthfire-Patch.esp=1

RRR_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1

ELFX - NoTaverns.esp=1

ELFX - Dawnguard.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1

prod80_CoT_patch.esp=1

ELFXEnhancer.esp=1

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1

RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1

LockpickingOverhaul4.esp=1

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp=1

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1

EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp=1

My Home Is Your Home.esp=1

SkyRe_Races.esp=1

TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp=1

TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp=1

WATER.esp=1

WATER Plants.esp=1

WATER DG.esp=1

WATER DB Waves.esp=1

WATER Falskaar.esp=1

RND_Water-Patch.esp=1

SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp=1

SkyRe_LostLongSwords.esp=1

Khajiit Merchants Buy Stolen Items.esp=1

skoomadealer.esp=1

AOS_CoT 3.1 compatibility patch.esp=1

ReProccer.esp=1

ReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp=1

ReProccerDragonborn.esp=1

World_Map_Height_Pitch_Tweak_170_50.esp=1

 

 

 

Everything from Paarthurnax dilemma up activated doesn't give me a CTD. However, If i then activate ThunderChild, it CTD's. Which lead me to believe there is a mod conflict somewhere. I've tried disabling ThunderChild and enabling everything else and i still get CTD. Even trying to set stage to finish the quest gives me CTD. Is my load order incorrect ? I use boss and i hand place some esp's according to the mod author. Some, it doesn't matter where they are. Anyone willing to help ? What the hell is it ?

[LargeStyle]

I don't use most of the mods that you do, so can't really say - but looking at your list and problem the only thing that rings a potential alarm is SkyRe (it's the only thing I can presume may alter shouts). Have you tried a thorough process of elimination?

[Bindiman]

  On 10/19/2013 at 10:03 PM, LargeStyle said:

I don't use most of the mods that you do, so can't really say - but looking at your list and problem the only thing that rings a potential alarm is SkyRe (it's the only thing I can presume may alter shouts). Have you tried a thorough process of elimination?

 

I did, done it in chunks. Was all good up until i got to ThunderChild. I'm not saying its the cause of my CTD, But maybe that isn't compatible with something prior to it. I'm going to try disabling Skyre and enable ThunderChild.

[Miguelr23]

skyre indeed alters some shouts but thunderchild has a compability patch for it

looking at the load order i cant really see whats wrong with it ...

here's my suggestion: activate thunderchild and run tes5edit and see whats conflicting with thunderchild

[Bindiman]

  On 10/19/2013 at 10:46 PM, Miguelr23 said:

skyre indeed alters some shouts but thunderchild has a compability patch for it

looking at the load order i cant really see whats wrong with it ...

here's my suggestion: activate thunderchild and run tes5edit and see whats conflicting with thunderchild

 

On it. Not too familiar with Tes5Edit, but i watched Gophers video on cleaning mods. I'll post some screenshots and see if you can help, or anyone.

[Bindiman]

http://s22.postimg.org/5n7kswkjh/Tes5_Edit_Thunder_Child.jpg

 

Mentions Windhelm aswell. Could be the cause ?

[Miguelr23]

you seem to have a lot of stuff editing that cell does some other mod overwrite thunderchild there?

[Deseoso]

The screenshot you posted doesn't look like it is the cause because those items are highlighted in red are all the same in each mod. I might have been the cause if each mod was entering a different value to the same field.

[Bindiman]

I'm not really sure how to find conflicts using Tes5Edit. Any pointers ?

[Bindiman]

So more testing has been done. It would seem that Fantasy Music Overhaul was conflicting with ThunderChild with the music in Windhelm. Just moved FMO to the bottom of my load order, with all mods enabled, and tried playing through the same sequence. And surprise, no CTD. Could be a fluke, not sure, but i'll continue playing and see if i get any more. Thanks for the help guys, especially to Miguelr23 who suggested to use Tes5edit to look for conflicts :)