wulvfen Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Hiya fellow forumers Got a new rig!!!I now have some questions about utilities/tools that will be needed for modding my Fallout games.I have both FO3-GOTY and NV-Ultimate Ed. and I plan to install Tale of Two Wastelands.Got another post in the Hardware and Software forum about the same thing [ New Rig - Games/Tools/Utilities ] but my questions are more individually games related, SO....my rig Asus Z87-WS Motherboard [LGA 1150] Quad Core w/ Gen3 4-Way (SLI/Crossfire)Intel i7 4770k CPU @ 3.5 GhzKingston RAM -32 GB DDR3 Dual Channel @ 1600MSI Lightning nVidia GTX 770 GPU w/ 2GBSamsung 840 Pro 256 GB SSDWD Cavier Black 2TB HDDLG BlueRay/HD DVDRWLG Dual Layer HD DVDRWSoundBlaster X-FixTreme 5:1 Audio cardSoundBlaster Tactics-3D Sigma HeadphonesCorsair Gold ATX 950W Power SupplyCoolermaster 690 II ATX caseWindows 7 Pro [sP 1] 64 Bit [OEM] OS- as AdminPhilips 46" HDTV as MonitorSteelSeries Merc Stealth KeyboardSteelSeries Diablo III Mouse All my games are installed to my HDD, outside of my Program Files into a new Games Folder I created in my efforts to avoid the UAC.I've been using mods sporadically for a couple of years now with some success, and plenty issues, partly due to the incapabilities of my old computer [and my still fumbling attempts at using editors/merges/bashes]However, with my new rig, I'm uncertain as to what is needed in the utilities/tools/fixes catagories for either game, if anything.I'm fuzzy as to what the 4GB enabler does exactly?Is it an operating system modifier [i think so]?Does it just allow older rigs to run the game better [like it did with mine] [same question as before]?Or is it a games engine/ini. modifier? See my confusion.....I think I just asked the same question 4 ways. Therefore, with my new rig, the big questions are - Do I need the 4GB enablers for either Fallout if I install Tale of Two Wastelands?Do I need any other specific "tools/utilities/mod" for game/system operation improvements?Do I install TTW and then mod the games, OR vice-versa? [using TTW/compatible mods]? Any input on requirements for the above system would be greatly appreciated. I'm doing Skyrim too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luthienanarion Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 The 4GB launcher modifies the executable to set the Large-Address Aware flag, which dictates to the OS that it can exceed the normal limit of allocated memory addresses, up to a maximum of 3 gigabytes. It has no effect on performance. The game does not elegantly handle running out of usable memory; it simply crashes. The 4GB launcher just gives you more room to work with. Most of the allocated memory is used for storing loaded textures, so you're not likely to encounter a need for it unless you use high-definition texture replacers. 4GB is not required for TTW, as the game only loads the data it needs at the time and not everything at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgeburner Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Nice rig...There are a lot of folks much more qualified than I on this forum that can give you better and more detailed information than I, but, I can tell you this....You're going to need that 4G enabler if you plan on installing a lot of mods, better textures, shaders ect. Even with a super-rig like yours, you're going to need it to help you squeeze all that you can out of a limited and buggy game engine like the one Fallout and FNV are built on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Use the 4GB things anyway, there's no real reason not to and your games will be a lot more stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulvfen Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 Hi to all. Thank You! As I now understand it, the 4GB enabler is a game engine/system memory modifier that helps out Bethesda's buggy Fallout engines. OK, I'll use them.Have before with no problems, wanted to know more about them as regards TTW. [Love the idea of travelling back and forth between the Wastelands]. Even at it's best [maxed upgrades/system tweaks/game tweaks/etc], my old rig running a lightly modded game was "stutter, stumble, stagger" with more than a couple of companions in the middle of nowhere, combat was almost like watching a series of still pictures in sequence. As for modding anew, POPULATIONS! It's been 200+ years and people will.....you know.....[which is why CotW is a must for me, thx luthienanarion]Gads how I hated the vanilla games dearth of humanity. In the wastes, sure, but the so-called established settlements/towns/etc. just made me sad. [Not that my old rig could have handled it if they were there]. Now that I've got a system that can handle the traffic.....I'll be experimenting for awhile, there's several mods I've been wanting to tryout but couldn't really run before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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