Can't forge steel armour or weapons?

[jakelad]

Hi all

 

I have a strange problem. Despite having acquired the Steel smithing perk, I cannot craft steel items at forges - the option doesn't even show in the list (iron, leather, hide, etc). I'm pretty much running core Step 2.2.7 (latest), and the only mod I can think oif which might change smithing behaviour is Ars Metallica - tried disabling this but the problem persists. Any ideas???

 

I've searched around for this a bit (ie google) - my problem has been mentioned a couple of times, but no luck on finding a resolution.

[jakelad]

Sorry to bump, but this is really confusing me. It's my first playthrough, and I'm not sure if this is supposed to happen. For example, I also had access to crafting "Falmer" (??) stuff from the start (although I can't actually craft any of it but the option is there (just for a helmet I think), unlike steel stuff)

 

Any help appreciated

[Toeclipper]

Tried game file verification?

[jakelad]

No, what might that be?

 

EDIT:

OK, just googled. If you mean the Steam game cache verification, I did that, and it didn't find any problems (well, it said 6 files could not be validated, but their support page I was using said that this would happen and was normal)

Edited November 14, 2013 by jakelad

[jakelad]

UM, wow, okay, it seems that game file verification thing has screwed around with a lot of stuff on my Skyrim installation...

I think it reinstalled various files, and now Mod Organiser doesn't recognise anything and even said that it was starting for the first time when I loaded it after the verification... No mods loaded or recognised...

Anywho, I decided to load into a previous save game near a forge in this completely unmodded setup, and when I used it the Falmer category had disappeared, and in its place was a "studded" category which used iron ingots, but still no steel. Is this what Vanilla is supposed to be? If so then I suppose one of my mods is causing some issues with smithing, though not sure which one, i'll have to do some testing.

In any case, toeclipper, although I know you were trying to help and nobody forced me to do the file verification, i think you should add a disclaimer/warning next time as it seems to have created a bit of a mess, although i'm sure it's nothing I can't sort out.

if anyone has any advice that'd be welcome...

[DanielCoffey]

Are you using Requiem? That gameplay overhaul requires you to have a certain smithing book in your inventory.

[jakelad]

Nope, no Requiem

 

Mod list is below (not in load order, ModOrg export puts it in alphabetical order by default)

 

 

1st person messages
Accingite Vos - Shields HQ Retextures
Acquisitive Soul Gems
Altar Descriptions
aMidianBorn Caves
Appropriately Attired Jarls
Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhancement
Auto Unequip Ammo
AutoSave Manager
Beards
Bellyaches Animal and Creature Pack
Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack
Better Animal Footsteps
Better Bards - No pause between lines
Better Circlets HQ V1o1
Better Dialogue Controls
Better Freckles
Better Horse Pain Sounds
Better Male Feet
Better MessageBox Controls
Better Shadowmarks
Better Weapon Swing Sounds
Book of Silence - Armour
Book of Silence - Creatures
Book of Silence - Dragonborn
Book of Silence - Unique Items
Book of Silence - Weapons
Bowlegged jump animation Fix
Brawl Bugs Patch - Plugins
Breathing Idles
Bring Out Your Dead
Brows
ClamsDropPearls
Clanking Armor
Closer Quivers and Longer Arrows
Colorful Lights - No Shadows - More FPS
Consistent Older People
Cover Khajiits
Dark Brotherhood Tenets Restored - Performance Edition
Dawnguard Rewritten - Arvak
Dead Body Collision Fix
Designs of the Nords
Detailed Faces v2
DFB - Disabled Woodchop Anim
Disable Thieves Guild Autostart
Distant Decal Fix
Diverse Priests
Dragons Shout with Voice
Drop Lit Torches
EK_LimitedItems
Elemental Staffs
Enemy AI OverHaul---Revenge Of the Enemies---No Scripts Version
Enhanced Distant Terrain
Enhanced Distant Terrain 2
Enhanced HD Dragon Bones 1k v1.6a
Enhanced Night Skyrim
Even Better Quest Objectives
Explosive Bolts Visualized
EzEs -Remove 3D Map Camera Limits-
Fast travel timescale fix
Faster Mining
Female Vampires Have Fangs
Finer Dust
Follower Trap Safety
Gildergreen Regrown
Glowing Ore Veins 300 Less Glow
Greatsword Sheaths and Scabbards Redux
Guard Dialogue Overhaul
HD Baskets Retex
HD Linens
HD Misc
HD Ore And Ingots
HD Sacks Retexture
Height Adjusted Races with True Giants
Hi-Res DLC Optimized
High Quality LODs
Hold Border Banners
Hybrids HD Plants and Herbs Retexture
Immersive HUD - iHUD
Improved closefaced helmets
Improved Combat Sounds
Improved Container Names
Improved Foot Wraps for females
Improved Horse Step Sounds
Improved Vanilla Mountains HD
Improved Weapon Impact Effects
Interface Hard Coded Key Tweaks
Jewels of the Nord
Lanterns for Caravans - Wearable Lanterns Add-On
Lanterns for Guards - Wearable Lanterns Add-On
Lanterns of Skyrim
Legible Road Signs (HiRes)
Lightning during Thunder Storms
Lock Overhaul
Lower Sounding Thieves Guild Door
More Salt Please
Moss Rocks
Move it Dammit for NPC Companions and Followers
Natural Eyes
New Thinner Torch
No More Blocky Faces
No NPC Greetings
No Psychic Lock Knowledge
No Spinning Death Animation
Non-Automatic Skill Books
Non-Essential Children
Not Another Colored Map Icon Mod - NACMIM
Not Really HD Display Case
Not Really HD Keys
Not Really HD Mask of Clavicus Vile
Optimised Dawnguard Textures
Optimised Dragonborn Textures
Optimised Hearthfires Textures
Optimised Vanilla Textures
Organized Books
Pilgrims Delight - High Hrothgar Shrine Retextures
Point The Way
Race Description Info
Rainbows
Real Ice
Realistic Bow Shoot Sounds
Realistic Crossbow Shoot Sounds
Realistic Hair
Realistic Humanoid Movement Speed
Realistic Mushrooms
Realistic wolf howls
Run For Your Lives
Rune Weapons FXS Replacer
Running with your Bow Replacer
Serious HD Retexture Skyrim
Shield of Ysgramor
Shooting Stars
Silly Level of Detail - Potions and Poisons
Silly Level of Detail - Wine Cellar -- SLOD WC
SkyFalls and SkyMills
SkyRealism - Materials
Skyrim -Community- Uncapper
Skyrim Flora Overhaul
Skyrim HD - Dungeons
Skyrim HD - Landscape
Skyrim HD - Misc
Skyrim HD - Towns
Skyrim Misc Patches Collection - SMPC
Skyrim Performance PLUS
Skyrim Redesigned WIP
Skyrim Sunglare V4
Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets
SkyUI
Smaller Cursor
Smaller Ice Spike and Ice Spear
Smooth blades draw and sheath
Sometimes Pick Up Books
Static Mesh Improvement Mod
Swift Potion Reborn
Tail Twist Fix
The Choice is Yours - Fewer Forced Quests
The Paarthurnax Dilemma
Thundering shouts
Timing is Everything - Quest Delay and Timing Control
Tobes Highres Textures
Trade and Barter
Traps Make Noise
TreesHD_Skyrim_Variation
Tundra Moss Revised
Ultimate HD Torch
Unique Region Names
Unknown Enchants
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch
Unofficial Skyrim Patch
Visible Windows
W.A.T.E.R - Water And Terrain Enhancement Redux
Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge
Weapon De-LARP-ification Project
Weapons and Armor Fixes
Wearable Lanterns
When Vampires Attack
Whiterun Trellis Redesigned
Windmills resized
World Map - Skyrim Hold Borders

 

[Georgiegril]

In the vanilla game, you can forge only iron without using experience/skill to get the perks for the other armors.

Did you do the smithing tutorial thing with the blacksmith at Riverside or Whiterun? If not, that would be a good place to start.

As you earn/select perks on the smithing tree, you will have the ability to smith other types of armor.

 

The fact that you now see "falmer" is probably because you have a mod of some sort that added in smithing for it's armors without requiring perks to do so.

 

There probably is a mod out there somewhere that unlocks the whole smithing perk tree, if that is what you want; but in the vanilla game you are not supposed to have the ability to improve or craft things without the relevant earned perk.

[jakelad]

As stated, I have the first perk on the smithing tree, which is steel smithing.

I've googled around and it seems that the Falmer shellbug helmet is legit - it's from one of the DLCs (dragonborn or dwanguard, I forget which)

I've looked into my mods with TES5Edit and can't see why the ability to forge Steel items would be missing once I've acquired the relevant perk so I'm very confused...

[Deleted3507349User]

The Falmer section with the Shellbug Helmet comes from the official Dawnguard DLC.