SSE Civil War - getting the sides to talk peace - bigger threats

[scathtroy2147]

Instead of fighting until one side wipes the other out, a tired plot in any game, give it a more "The Witcher" 1-2-3 feel, more complex morality and real world politics.

 

Use your speech skill to get both sides to the table. (Note, I haven't finished the main plot, at embassy quest, so I'm guessing what happens next. No spoilers please.) Convince both sides that it stinks of a Thalmor plot to weaken Skyrim for invasion.

 

You need do enough tasks for the people of Skyrim for both sides to trust you. You have to figure out a solution to the nasty issue of the worship of Talos.

 

 

PS, I'm a writer by trade. :wink:

 

Thanks...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[scathtroy2147]

On reading the plot spoilers on uesp net - skyrim, I noticed an option to make peace. :p

[7531Leonidas]

Not really related to your idea, but there is Civil War Neutrality ( https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/21176 ) - it can allow you to purchase Hjerim in Windhelm, and not take a side...

[scathtroy2147]

Thanks....

 

 

Speaking of Spoilers, I'd been reading the spoilers on the uesp quest for the main one and few others, and regretted it. :p

 

I'm on sol/hime and playing the mirak quest. I'm up to, on the main quest, aldun's wall.

 

Without spoiling it for me, does al-dune(sp) intervene to take action against his old enemy? I need to be sure. Just yes or no. I think no.

[blackkat9]

I think the quest should involve completely taking down the Thalmor Embassy in Skyrim. This can come after Season Unending is completed. That seems like the ripe time to arrange secret meetings with Ulfric and Tullius. It would probably be easier to meet them both separately.

 

Confront Tullius and Ulfric. Show both of them Ulfric's Dossier. Tell them that you know about the Thalmor's plot and that you refuse be part of it. Tell Ulfric that you know about him being kidnapped and tortured during the Great War. That the Thalmor had tricked him and used him. The Empire also needs to know what happened to Ulfric. They need to see that both of them were manipulated into this war. Tullius might be hesitant because of pressure of the Thalmor presents. That's when you tell them that with you on both their sides, you will take down the Thalmor embassy yourself. Have a treaty and convince both sides to sign. When they both sign, then you add your signature. Tullius can then agree to take this to the emperor. Wait 2-3 days. A special courier will deliver a message to you from Tullius, letting you know that the emperor is aware and has given his approval. I was thinking the courier could be an Imperial soldier. Once you've completely taken down the Thalmor Embassy, let Tullius know, and the war should be counted as completed.

[scathtroy2147]

I think the quest should involve completely taking down the Thalmor Embassy in Skyrim. This can come after Season Unending is completed. That seems like the ripe time to arrange secret meetings with Ulfric and Tullius. It would probably be easier to meet them both separately.

 

Confront Tullius and Ulfric. Show both of them Ulfric's Dossier. Tell them that you know about the Thalmor's plot and that you refuse be part of it. Tell Ulfric that you know about him being kidnapped and tortured during the Great War. That the Thalmor had tricked him and used him. The Empire also needs to know what happened to Ulfric. They need to see that both of them were manipulated into this war. Tullius might be hesitant because of pressure of the Thalmor presents. That's when you tell them that with you on both their sides, you will take down the Thalmor embassy yourself. Have a treaty and convince both sides to sign. When they both sign, then you add your signature. Tullius can then agree to take this to the emperor. Wait 2-3 days. A special courier will deliver a message to you from Tullius, letting you know that the emperor is aware and has given his approval. I was thinking the courier could be an Imperial soldier. Once you've completely taken down the Thalmor Embassy, let Tullius know, and the war should be counted as completed.

You can't join either faction that must be required. I've not done that.

Sounds great! This is lore friendly... :smile:

 

Thanks, now we wait until someone take the idea.

 

Edit: Their so involved with the Talos issue. So, they can't see that the Thalmor are playing both sides for fools.

Edited January 2, 2023 by scathtroy2147

[Frost73ite]

I think the quest should involve completely taking down the Thalmor Embassy in Skyrim. This can come after Season Unending is completed. That seems like the ripe time to arrange secret meetings with Ulfric and Tullius. It would probably be easier to meet them both separately.

 

Confront Tullius and Ulfric. Show both of them Ulfric's Dossier. Tell them that you know about the Thalmor's plot and that you refuse be part of it. Tell Ulfric that you know about him being kidnapped and tortured during the Great War. That the Thalmor had tricked him and used him. The Empire also needs to know what happened to Ulfric. They need to see that both of them were manipulated into this war. Tullius might be hesitant because of pressure of the Thalmor presents. That's when you tell them that with you on both their sides, you will take down the Thalmor embassy yourself. Have a treaty and convince both sides to sign. When they both sign, then you add your signature. Tullius can then agree to take this to the emperor. Wait 2-3 days. A special courier will deliver a message to you from Tullius, letting you know that the emperor is aware and has given his approval. I was thinking the courier could be an Imperial soldier. Once you've completely taken down the Thalmor Embassy, let Tullius know, and the war should be counted as completed.

I'd love to see this happen. Frankly, it should have been an option in Vanilla.