MageBlade Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Hey there, if anyone could help me out, I'm hoping for a way to get up to the quest to kill the Emperor and then kill Astrid and start the Destroy the Dark Brotherhood quests. I'm not sure if it would be as simple as removing Astrids Essential Flag or if I need a full mod to do it. Besides the potential comments of why, I just want to. Remove the failing Emperor, take the Emperors clothes, and end the Dark Brotherhood. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 If you get to that point in the quests, taking out the DB leadership is easy. Jump off a cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MageBlade Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 5:18 PM, showler said: If you get to that point in the quests, taking out the DB leadership is easy. Jump off a cliff.I wish this was helpful, but it isn't. I specifically said Astrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumbincubation Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Isn't that already handled by the questline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Sounds like they are looking for an overhaul of the entire end questline. Pretty much have the first attempt on the Emperor succeed, you get away with it, then you betray the DB and start the Destroy the DB quest line. Dump the part on the boat entirely. Might be possible, but would require some significant reworking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MageBlade Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 9:24 PM, thumbincubation said: Isn't that already handled by the questline? On 12/18/2022 at 11:03 PM, showler said: Sounds like they are looking for an overhaul of the entire end questline. Pretty much have the first attempt on the Emperor succeed, you get away with it, then you betray the DB and start the Destroy the DB quest line. Dump the part on the boat entirely. Might be possible, but would require some significant reworking. What I have read is Destroy the Dark Brotherhood gets locked out if you complete the first quest, but reading the wiki it says the only thing that triggers Destroy the Brotherhood is Astrids death, automatically. So I feel like the lock out might just be due to the game making Astrid essential, which if I used console commands to remove her essential status, I think it might work, but I don't know. Was wondering if anyone had any experience on it. Don't care how it might "break" lore or anything. Just functionally want the game to recognize both the Emperor was killed and the Dark Brotherhood was destroyed, aaand that I actually played it out not just bonking the console for flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 The problem is that Astrid is already functionally "dead" as soon as the first emperor assassination is done. At that point her original character is removed and replaced with the burned version you find when returning to the Sanctuary. Similarly, if you kill her earlier, the Emperor never spawns at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MageBlade Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/19/2022 at 1:00 AM, showler said: The problem is that Astrid is already functionally "dead" as soon as the first emperor assassination is done. At that point her original character is removed and replaced with the burned version you find when returning to the Sanctuary. Similarly, if you kill her earlier, the Emperor never spawns at all.What about then spawning/resurrecting? Maybe it needs to register that the Player kills Astrid? Huh, not sure. Dang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 You'd also have to restart the "With Friends Like These" quest, since all the scripting to start "Destroy the Dark Brotherhood" is probably in that quest. It would probably requiring a lot of testing and fixing of conflicts, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MageBlade Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/19/2022 at 1:21 AM, showler said: You'd also have to restart the "With Friends Like These" quest, since all the scripting to start "Destroy the Dark Brotherhood" is probably in that quest. It would probably requiring a lot of testing and fixing of conflicts, at least.Guess I just gotta destroy the DB and spawn in the armor, oof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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