Thandal Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 @Moraelin; Since you obviously have a specific case in mind, say who it is. If you prefer to do so in a PM, that's fine. Continuing to argue about this in public is already a borderline violation, and vague assertions that this has happened without any particulars is pointless. As the other members of Staff have said, I know of no such cases (ban without a new Ban Notice) that weren't multi-account abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moraelin Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Well, truth it that after a few months I have forgotten the name of the user. It's not like it was that important to remember. As I was saying, you could compare the bans database contents to threads in the forum, if you want exact names. But fair enough, if now even discussing site problems is a violation, I'll just drop it and be on my merry way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micalov Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 On the contrary I would like to thank Moraelin for this thread the unrelated to chat bans it has allowed me to take a step back to re-access moderation and hopefully improve from it, every so often even chat staff need a mellow out reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I try to avoid chat as much as I can as the chat seems to be mostly either kiddies who want attention, or the same group of friends having an ongoing conversation that I don't feel like I should be getting involved in. I do drop in from time to time just to remind people that there really are moderators that look at chat. If I actually site ban someone for something in chat - I put it on the site ban page. A warning - possibly not as my chat warnings tend to be the informal kind - Typically something on the order of "Before getting back on chat - please read the short page of rules you must get past to access chat - However, If you do something that stupid again I will just ban you." in a private channel along with a kick to get their attention. As for multi account - there are some that revel in the number of bans they can accumulate - by just adding those to an existing ban notice it takes some of the 'fun' out of it for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thandal Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 But regarding the charge of "Stealth Bans" made in the OP, as far as anyone (besides Moraelin) can tell, there is no problem. And so far, there is no real information to cause us to think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moraelin Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Well, then there is no problem, and let's leave it at that. I can't go back in time to check the names and if I missed anything, and I can't hang around in chat to see the next one that happens. Since that was the only way for a non-admin to know someone was banned, without it appearing in the bans and strikes forum, obviously it would require some form of telepathy on my part to know it now. So, obviously, since at this point it's physically impossible for me to show any evidence or check if I was wrong, there is no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark0ne Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Righto, lets close this now. Just so you know there was no real issue with the way you brought the topic up, or the topic in question, but in future it might be best if you could give us some specifics to work from. Right now the situation seems to be "you aren't documenting all your bans", "can you give us an example", "no". So not much point in keeping this going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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