kubikiri Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) Oblivion is running at a stable 60FPS on my RTX card, yet it feels very laggy whenever my character moves. Is this an Oblivion thing? Incompatibility on modern hardware/software? I haven't play this game for too long I honestly can't remember how it runs back in the days. Edited September 28, 2023 by kubikiri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivionaddicted Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Load order?Very high resolution replacer textures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanR Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) With thal little info I can't give a sure answer. Assuming your system is win 10, for a start I would try to some things: 1. If not already present, install DirecX June2010 SDK. Win 10 doesn't contain native libraries by itself and is using a wrapper to emulate older APIs. At least it should improve compatibility with such old games.2. In NVidia's Control Panel I would try changes to Oblivion profile: lower the prerendered frames to 1 (I'm using it for old games), enable triple buffering (so drivers will render another frame while waiting to sync with display), switch off CUDA and sub-process optimization (for such old games these are not needed). If a lag is followed by drop off FPS, there are multiple factors like codecs used or sound enchancing SW, system overhead (CPU and disk mainly) etc. Edit: For now I leave mods topic open, as there's no info about them either. Edited September 28, 2023 by RomanR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubikiri Posted September 28, 2023 Author Share Posted September 28, 2023 Load order?Very high resolution replacer textures?It's a really old mod list haven't been modified since around 2015. Oblivion.esmHair Style Master.esmFFRace.esmBeautiful People 2ch-Ed.esmTamrielTravellers.esmKvatch Rebuilt.esmmpc.esmx117race.esmSlim.esmItemMergedMaster.esmtes4-CHS-main.espFastTravelDoubleFaceFix.espUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.esptes4SI-CHS-alpha.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espMOBS SI.espMOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esptes4-CHS-Addon.espPTAutumnTrees.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.espAtmospheric Oblivion.espPCSoundInnocent.espIlluminationWithin.espAliveWaters.espAliveWaters - Koi Addon.espAliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.espMoist - Gate Room.espMore Effective Enchantments.espMaigrets House Cats.espMaigrets Battle Dogs - Rocky and Spike.espDialogue Idles.esppersonality_idles2.espPTFallingStars.espEnhanced Economy.espDS Time Manager.espFormID Finder4.espSpell Delete And Item Remove.espHotkey Pro.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCOrrery.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espDLCVileLair.espDLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espEVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.espMaleBodyReplacerV5.espAdonnays Elven Weaponry.espCapesandCloaks.espEthereal - Armor Imperial Legion Edition AR.espKDClothCirclets.espsamurai.espCommand Mount.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.espFarmAnimalsofCyrodiil.espTamrielTravellers.espShiveringIsleTravellers.espBOO Standard Overhaul.espAkaviriSamuraiShop.espBHC_Expanded.espEM_RedRoseManor.espEM_Packdonkeys.espFighters Guild Quests.espNWICHouse.espImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.espImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.espKvatch Rebuilt.espMages Guild Quests.espThe Imperial Water.espRegion Revive - Lake Rumare.espLakeRumare+ASS_GOKANPatch.espSnow Dragon Temple v1.0.espStopDarkBrotherhood.espTemple District Repaired.espElder Council Plugin 1.1.espTobes_house.espTona's_ModsStore.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.espBrumaMGRestored.espKnights.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espEVE_KnightsoftheNine.espMore Effective Enchantments Knights.espDLC_MOBS.espACharmingTown.espPTMudwater.espImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.espSutch Village.espBetter Dungeons.espBFG's Open All the Gates.espEVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.espGuildAdvancement.espImprovedWaterfrontShips.espLive at Gweden Farm.espRedBag - Friendly Animals.espRespawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.espRMDailyIncomeV2.esptbskGuardsFeatures.espAlternative Start by Robert Evrae.espBasic Primary Needs.espRemove Extra Data.espSetEssentialActors.espkuerteeMagickaBasedEnchantmentLimits.espOblivion XP.espCTAddPose_osr1.espCTAddPose_osr2.espCTAddPose_osr3.espCTAddPose_Le01.espCTAddPose_Le02.espCTAddPose_Ordinary.espCTAddPose_OTpair2.espCTAddPose_2ch_(Hentai).espCTAddPose_Dsk(erori-2)Pose.espCTAddPose_Mfeth.espSlave in pose.espSlave in pose2.espactors_in_charge.espActorsInMadness.espActorsInEmotions.esp77_Umpa_Animation.espEFGAddPose.espChain it!.espDungeon Poses 1.1.espNaRae Pose - 01.espNaRae Pose - 02.espshinyEmotions.espSexyWitchPoses.espSpecialanims.espDremoraFemales.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.espx117race.espCity Life-x117.espFrom2chLivesMOON.espXmas.espOblivionReloaded.esp With thal little info I can't give a sure answer. Assuming your system is win 10, for a start I would try to some things: 1. If not already present, install DirecX June2010 SDK. Win 10 doesn't contain native libraries by itself and is using a wrapper to emulate older APIs. At least it should improve compatibility with such old games.2. In NVidia's Control Panel I would try changes to Oblivion profile: lower the prerendered frames to 1 (I'm using it for old games), enable triple buffering (so drivers will render another frame while waiting to sync with display), switch off CUDA and sub-process optimization (for such old games these are not needed). If a lag is followed by drop off FPS, there are multiple factors like codecs used or sound enchancing SW, system overhead (CPU and disk mainly) etc. Edit: For now I leave mods topic open, as there's no info about them either. DX runtime already installed. While running the game at 60FPS, my GPU fan doesn't even bother spinning, so there is no overheat either. And the frame rate isn't dropping, the game just...lags. Or stutter might be a more precise word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubikiri Posted September 28, 2023 Author Share Posted September 28, 2023 No I can't believe it. I'm totally wrong. While GPU usage is about 40%, the FPS of the game is about 30. The game didn't even bother running. Or the GPU didn't even bother running. Or both. And the game UI behaves weirdly under 4K resolution too. It only occupies about 2560*1440 pixel of entire screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanR Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) It's quite question if such old game is even capable to run in such big resolutions, even if componets in your computer would handle such old game easily. Also don't forget that Oblivion isn't a multicore game. It mostly utilizes 2 cores and as I tried to measure it, one core is utilized at about 50 through 75 percent, while other is about 33 - 45. This is what I saw using standard process viewer on my old Win 7. Can you measure CPU usage while running Oblivion to what cores are utilized and if one goes to 100%? In my case I measured it by running Oblivion as windowed in 1024x768 and with process viewer opened beside it, so I could see graphs for every core. Still as I mentioned earlier, the problem could be anywhere else, beginning with Oblivion's incompatibility with newer desktop features (what happens if you try to run Oblivion as Admin in fullscreen?), power management problems and ending with background processes eating your entire power (updating or similar) or unstable component or bad driver slowing down your system, as Windows must handle errors it creates. Such problems can be hard to diagnose, even for experienced users. Edited September 28, 2023 by RomanR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivionaddicted Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 (edited) Oblivion reloaded is known to cause all sorts of problems, you should probably better uninstall it. What do you use to sort your load order? Edited October 29, 2023 by Oblivionaddicted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubikiri Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 It's quite question if such old game is even capable to run in such big resolutions, even if componets in your computer would handle such old game easily. Also don't forget that Oblivion isn't a multicore game. It mostly utilizes 2 cores and as I tried to measure it, one core is utilized at about 50 through 75 percent, while other is about 33 - 45. This is what I saw using standard process viewer on my old Win 7. Can you measure CPU usage while running Oblivion to what cores are utilized and if one goes to 100%? In my case I measured it by running Oblivion as windowed in 1024x768 and with process viewer opened beside it, so I could see graphs for every core. Still as I mentioned earlier, the problem could be anywhere else, beginning with Oblivion's incompatibility with newer desktop features (what happens if you try to run Oblivion as Admin in fullscreen?), power management problems and ending with background processes eating your entire power (updating or similar) or unstable component or bad driver slowing down your system, as Windows must handle errors it creates. Such problems can be hard to diagnose, even for experienced users. The game runs perfectly smooth on my older computer back then which has weaker CPU and GPU. I think is a software issue. Oblivion reloaded is known to cause all sorts of problems, you should probably better uninstall it. What do you use to your load order? I use BOSS with some custom rules for sorting mods. It looks messy by today's standards, but was perfect fine when I was playing the game. Anyway, sorry for the late reply. I was building my first Skyrim AE modlist recently. After that's done, I plan to update my Oblivion modlist (which is actually over ten years old), hopefully solving performance and UI problems. Thanks, and I'll update this post after the modlist is done (may take a while). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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