hisomii Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 since the update the game broke, so i downgraded back to .163, and the game just simply won't launch, it just insta crashes a couple seconds after launching. like the music plays but a crashlog popup comes up. kind of new to modding, or at least haven't done it in a long time, my load order: [Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp WorkshopFramework.esm HUDFramework.esm BakaFramework.esm WalkmenPalettes.esm WeaponsFramework.esm StimpakCompanions.esl Overlays.esm Quick_Modification_Weapon_by_tooun.esl SSTRealisticRoads.esl MoreWildlife.esl ImmersiveDogmeat.esl M84FlashBang.esl IllumBillboardsAIO.esl Homemaker.esm GCM_DLC_Automatron.esl GCM_DLC_Far_Harbor.esl CheatTerminal - AutomatronSpawnNPCPatch.esl CALIBER-COMPLEX.esm Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esm CheatTerminal - FarHarborSpawnNPCPatch.esl CheatTerminal - NukaWorldSpawnNPCPatch.esl AmericaRising2.esm Arbitration - Resources.esm BusMod.esl CheatBunker.esm tooun_Animationpack.esl TacticalReload.esm Rebuild_SharedResources.esm TrueStormsFO4.esm OVT.esp A Forest.esp Hunkered Down.esp RynsFallout4.esp WelcometoGoodneighbor.esp GunnersOverhaul.esp DCGuard_Overhaul.esp subwayrunnnernodynamic.esp Rebuild_TheCastle.esp Wasteland Illumination Shadow.esp Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp RED.esp FaceMaxson.esp DiamondNewVendors.esp TrainBar.esp DCVendorOverhaulAIO.esp DiamondCity-OverridePatch.esp NIS - Hunted.esp DeadlierDeathclaws.esp DCVendorClutter.esp atlanticofficesf23.esp Eli_Rockin Red Rocket.esp MikeMooresMCAM.esp CheatTerminal.esp Children of Ug Qualtoth.esp dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp EnclaveFactionItems.esp Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_GunForHire_Addon.esp Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp TWH_TheWayHome.esp The Death Tunnel.esp Eli_Tiny Raider Home Nuka-World.esp Eli_Sanctuary Bunker.esp MWIIM4.esp InstituteWeaponsOverhaul.esp MA37.esp MisriahArmory.esp MjolnirMKVB.esp MK18.esp XM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.esp Killable Children.esp ToggleFanning.esp Wana_SA58.esp Escape from Boston - KAC SR-25.esp MWIIstango25.esp FallEvil - Complete Edition.esp TacticalReloadVanilla.esp CazadorML.esp AER15.esp Tactical ACR.esp Rebuild_TheCastle_Previs.esp Eli_BunkerSafehouse.esp Glock 17&18.esp VisibleWeaponsOnPacks.esp VisibleWeaponsOnPacks_-_AE_patch.esp C_VWAS-VWOP.esp Halo2AnniversaryPalettes.esp VD_GerberMelee.esp Vault13Canteen.esp VividFallout - AiO - BestPerformance.esp WWM Gear Pack.esp Wet Effects.esp WestTekTacticalOptics.esp WheelMenu.esp Yaoguai grab skill.esp SilentProtagonist.esp InstitutePistol.esp GFH_DCO_Patch.esp ECV_Remnants.esp RU556.esp SigMCX.esp FnScar.esp AAC_HoneyBadger.esp Escape from Boston - Springfield M14.esp MWII_9mmDaemon.esp M2Agency.esp MWMpapa5.esp Mossberg500.esp AK74M.esp RED-DanseDilemma.esp G3A3.esp cambridgefacility.esp SSEX.esp HaxRPG7.esp EpilogueRestored.esp G3Family.esp HK_MP5.esp Glock19x.esp TEC9.esp AX50.esp FOrigin12.esp USP .45_by_tooun.esp MWIIsBeta.esp FnSCARmoryProject.esp 10mmAnims.esp 10mmAnimsNoTR.esp HKUSP9mm.esp RSh-12.esp RU556Armouryprojectv3.esp Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp SAICC Lite.esp SigMCX_LvlListPatch.esp SigMCX_MaterialPack.esp SigMCX_TacticalReload.esp RealAI.esp STEALTH AND DETECTION SYSTEM 5c.esp SettlementMenuManager.esp SimpleCombatGrabs.esp SimpleFinishersRE.esp SettleObjExpandPack.esp SettleObjExpandPack-AllLightShadowEnabler.esp SettleObjExpandPack-AutoDoorsPatch.esp Hoamaii_SleepTogetherAnywhere.esp Elzee Human Grab Attacks.esp Sneaky Kills.esp KnockBack Ragdoll Always B&M.esp Nexus_PMC.esp No Aggro Impact Landing.esp No Combat Boundaries.esp NomexGloves.esp OakleyMFrame.esp OpsCoreFASTHelmet.esp PIP-Pad.esp PIP-Pad_LMCC.esp PMC Operators Pack.esp PlayerHeadTracking.esp PowerArmorJumpUpgradeSubtle.esp AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp PMC_extended.esp PMC_extended_flags.esp PMC_extended_flags_AME.esp Project Reality Footsteps FO4.esp RAW INPUT.esp Realistic Miniguns.esp RepairSanctuary.esp Replaceable_Armor_Plates.esp RAP_Plate_LL.esp MW2022_Ghost_Desert.esp MW2022_Ghost_Nightwar.esp MW2022_Ghost_Mexico_Urban.esp MK18 Armory Project.esp MK18 Armory Project 2.esp MK18 Armory Project 3.esp Ozzys_MCPR-300.esp MCPRArmoryProject.esp [MW2022] Shadow Company.esp Modern Military Pack.esp 3dscopes-replacer.esp Modern Weapon Replacer - Glock 19x FX0x01 - Pipe Guns.esp Modern Weapon Replacer - AnotherOne TEC-9 - Pipe Guns.esp Modern Weapon Replacer - AK74M - Assault Rifles.esp Modern Weapon Replacer - Fostech Origin 12 - Combat Shotguns.esp Modern Weapon Replacer - MP5 Complex - Pipe Bolt Action.esp Multiple Floors Sandboxing.esp MK18 Armory Project Aim fix.esp Operator Edits - AN-M14.esp Infinite Armory.esp Infinite Armory - Brotherhood of Steel BoS.esp Infinite Armory - Gunners.esp FAR.esp TrueGrass.esp Insignificant Object Remover.esp Interview.esp InstitutePowerArmor.esp K9TacticalHarness.esp LongerPowerLinesInf.esp LooksMenu.esp Brute Invasion.esp Elite Infiltration.esp Heightstest.esp MM_UNSC_IA.esp GLOCK19X LLAP.esp Glock19x_TacticalReloadPatch.esp HeightstestNukaWorld.esp Helios Outfit.esp Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp SuperMutantBruteVoices.esp FIS-Naming-Weap-Armo-EN.esp FOVSlider.esp M8rDisablePipboyEffects.esp Famished.esp Flood Infection.esp GCM.esp ArmA 3 Gatekeep Vests.esp GiC's - UN Peacekeeper.esp GiC's - Western Operator.esp Flashy_GunForHire_KillableChildrenPatch.esp Flashy_GunForHire_NamesPatch.esp Eli_DLC Paintings.esp CustomCamera.esp BetterNightVision.esp TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp DarkerNights.esp DarkerNightsDetection.esp Deathclaw Grab Skills.esp DeathGrip Gloves.esp Dogmeat's Backpack.esp MWIImike2011.esp 44MBF4.esp DA44.esp DominoLynxOutfit.esp DAWestern44.esp dD - Small Splatter Size.esp FTS.esp Scopes.esp XM2010_tooun_FTS.esp FTS_Vanilla.esp Energy Weapon Replacer - AER15 - Laser Guns.esp Energy Weapon Replacer - AER15 - Institute Guns.esp Energy Weapon Replacer - AER15 - Laser Muskets.esp Bullet Impact Overhaul.esp CBBE.esp KSHairdos.esp MWIIM4_Blueprints.esp BallisticWeaver.esp MyCart_Biohazard.esp Adam Kellog Smasher.esp Ambient Wasteland.esp AnimChemRedux.esp AnimatedRadaway.esp AWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.esp M2AgencyLvlListPatch.esp AbsoluteZeros Pelican Case Pack.esp AccessibleBackpacks.esp FusionCoreRefueler.esp SlowTime.esp 10mmAnimsSTS.esp 10mmAnimsWT.esp adamsmasher.esp Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons - Auto Raise from Cover.esp Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp zzzzzzenhcancedblood.esp G3A3_AnimationUpdate.esp h3minigun.esp ImmersiveAnimationFramework.esp IAF - Far Harbor & Nuka World.esp VVKnifeAnims.esp VVKnifeAnimsNukaWorld.esp Live Dismemberment - Brutal.esp Live Dismemberment - Insane-o.esp Live Dismemberment - Liebermode.esp Live Dismemberment - Mental.esp Live Dismemberment - Mind-Blowing.esp Live Dismemberment - POSTAL.esp Live Dismemberment - Regular.esp 3dscopes-replacer-huntingrevolver.esp 3dscopes-replacer-leeenfield.esp 3dscopes-replacer-servicerifle.esp 3dscopes-svt40.esp Karambit.esp SaveAcadiaFromBoS.esp TCSsoundtrack.esp Synth Overhaul.esp Synth Overhaul - Black Patch.esp Synth Overhaul - No level requirements Patch.esp Synth Overhaul - White Patch.esp TFC Vest Pack V1.esp Tactical Flashlights.esp Tactical Flashlights - Settings.esp TacticalReloadDLC.esp TakeCover.esp FirstPersonDeathMod.esp TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment.esp United Security Contractor.esp StartMeUp.esp BostonFPSFixAIO.esp Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.esp Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp PIP-Pad_Pip-BoyFlashlight.esp] as well as the plugins [Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp *WorkshopFramework.esm *HUDFramework.esm *BakaFramework.esm *WalkmenPalettes.esm *WeaponsFramework.esm *StimpakCompanions.esl *Overlays.esm *Quick_Modification_Weapon_by_tooun.esl *SSTRealisticRoads.esl *MoreWildlife.esl *ImmersiveDogmeat.esl *M84FlashBang.esl *IllumBillboardsAIO.esl *Homemaker.esm *GCM_DLC_Automatron.esl *GCM_DLC_Far_Harbor.esl *CheatTerminal - AutomatronSpawnNPCPatch.esl *CALIBER-COMPLEX.esm *Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esm *CheatTerminal - FarHarborSpawnNPCPatch.esl *CheatTerminal - NukaWorldSpawnNPCPatch.esl *AmericaRising2.esm *Arbitration - Resources.esm *BusMod.esl *CheatBunker.esm *tooun_Animationpack.esl *TacticalReload.esm *Rebuild_SharedResources.esm *TrueStormsFO4.esm *OVT.esp *A Forest.esp *Hunkered Down.esp *RynsFallout4.esp *WelcometoGoodneighbor.esp *GunnersOverhaul.esp *DCGuard_Overhaul.esp *subwayrunnnernodynamic.esp *Rebuild_TheCastle.esp *Wasteland Illumination Shadow.esp *Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp *RED.esp *FaceMaxson.esp *DiamondNewVendors.esp *TrainBar.esp *DCVendorOverhaulAIO.esp *DiamondCity-OverridePatch.esp *NIS - Hunted.esp *DeadlierDeathclaws.esp *DCVendorClutter.esp *atlanticofficesf23.esp *Eli_Rockin Red Rocket.esp *MikeMooresMCAM.esp *CheatTerminal.esp *Children of Ug Qualtoth.esp *dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp *EnclaveFactionItems.esp *Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_GunForHire_Addon.esp *Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp *TWH_TheWayHome.esp *The Death Tunnel.esp *Eli_Tiny Raider Home Nuka-World.esp *Eli_Sanctuary Bunker.esp *MWIIM4.esp *InstituteWeaponsOverhaul.esp *MA37.esp *MisriahArmory.esp *MjolnirMKVB.esp *MK18.esp *XM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.esp *Killable Children.esp *ToggleFanning.esp *Wana_SA58.esp *Escape from Boston - KAC SR-25.esp *MWIIstango25.esp *FallEvil - Complete Edition.esp *TacticalReloadVanilla.esp *CazadorML.esp *AER15.esp *Tactical ACR.esp *Rebuild_TheCastle_Previs.esp *Eli_BunkerSafehouse.esp *Glock 17&18.esp *VisibleWeaponsOnPacks.esp *VisibleWeaponsOnPacks_-_AE_patch.esp *C_VWAS-VWOP.esp *Halo2AnniversaryPalettes.esp *VD_GerberMelee.esp *Vault13Canteen.esp *VividFallout - AiO - BestPerformance.esp *WWM Gear Pack.esp *Wet Effects.esp *WestTekTacticalOptics.esp *WheelMenu.esp *Yaoguai grab skill.esp *SilentProtagonist.esp *InstitutePistol.esp *GFH_DCO_Patch.esp *ECV_Remnants.esp *RU556.esp *SigMCX.esp *FnScar.esp *AAC_HoneyBadger.esp *Escape from Boston - Springfield M14.esp *MWII_9mmDaemon.esp *M2Agency.esp *MWMpapa5.esp *Mossberg500.esp *AK74M.esp *RED-DanseDilemma.esp *G3A3.esp *cambridgefacility.esp *SSEX.esp *HaxRPG7.esp *EpilogueRestored.esp *G3Family.esp *HK_MP5.esp *Glock19x.esp *TEC9.esp *AX50.esp *FOrigin12.esp *USP .45_by_tooun.esp *MWIIsBeta.esp *FnSCARmoryProject.esp *10mmAnims.esp *10mmAnimsNoTR.esp *HKUSP9mm.esp *RSh-12.esp *RU556Armouryprojectv3.esp *Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp *SAICC Lite.esp *SigMCX_LvlListPatch.esp *SigMCX_MaterialPack.esp *SigMCX_TacticalReload.esp *RealAI.esp *STEALTH AND DETECTION SYSTEM 5c.esp *SettlementMenuManager.esp *SimpleCombatGrabs.esp *SimpleFinishersRE.esp *SettleObjExpandPack.esp *SettleObjExpandPack-AllLightShadowEnabler.esp *SettleObjExpandPack-AutoDoorsPatch.esp *Hoamaii_SleepTogetherAnywhere.esp *Elzee Human Grab Attacks.esp *Sneaky Kills.esp *KnockBack Ragdoll Always B&M.esp *Nexus_PMC.esp *No Aggro Impact Landing.esp *No Combat Boundaries.esp *NomexGloves.esp *OakleyMFrame.esp *OpsCoreFASTHelmet.esp *PIP-Pad.esp *PIP-Pad_LMCC.esp *PMC Operators Pack.esp *PlayerHeadTracking.esp *PowerArmorJumpUpgradeSubtle.esp *AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp *PMC_extended.esp *PMC_extended_flags.esp *PMC_extended_flags_AME.esp *Project Reality Footsteps FO4.esp *RAW INPUT.esp *Realistic Miniguns.esp *RepairSanctuary.esp *Replaceable_Armor_Plates.esp *RAP_Plate_LL.esp *MW2022_Ghost_Desert.esp *MW2022_Ghost_Nightwar.esp *MW2022_Ghost_Mexico_Urban.esp *MK18 Armory Project.esp *MK18 Armory Project 2.esp *MK18 Armory Project 3.esp *Ozzys_MCPR-300.esp *MCPRArmoryProject.esp *[MW2022] Shadow Company.esp *Modern Military Pack.esp *3dscopes-replacer.esp *Modern Weapon Replacer - Glock 19x FX0x01 - Pipe Guns.esp *Modern Weapon Replacer - AnotherOne TEC-9 - Pipe Guns.esp *Modern Weapon Replacer - AK74M - Assault Rifles.esp *Modern Weapon Replacer - Fostech Origin 12 - Combat Shotguns.esp *Modern Weapon Replacer - MP5 Complex - Pipe Bolt Action.esp *Multiple Floors Sandboxing.esp *MK18 Armory Project Aim fix.esp *Operator Edits - AN-M14.esp *Infinite Armory.esp *Infinite Armory - Brotherhood of Steel BoS.esp *Infinite Armory - Gunners.esp *FAR.esp *TrueGrass.esp *Insignificant Object Remover.esp *Interview.esp *InstitutePowerArmor.esp *K9TacticalHarness.esp *LongerPowerLinesInf.esp *LooksMenu.esp *Brute Invasion.esp *Elite Infiltration.esp *Heightstest.esp *MM_UNSC_IA.esp *GLOCK19X LLAP.esp *Glock19x_TacticalReloadPatch.esp *HeightstestNukaWorld.esp *Helios Outfit.esp *Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp *Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp *SuperMutantBruteVoices.esp *FIS-Naming-Weap-Armo-EN.esp *FOVSlider.esp *M8rDisablePipboyEffects.esp *Famished.esp *Flood Infection.esp *GCM.esp *ArmA 3 Gatekeep Vests.esp *GiC's - UN Peacekeeper.esp *GiC's - Western Operator.esp *Flashy_GunForHire_KillableChildrenPatch.esp *Flashy_GunForHire_NamesPatch.esp *Eli_DLC Paintings.esp *CustomCamera.esp *BetterNightVision.esp *TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp *TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp *DarkerNights.esp *DarkerNightsDetection.esp *Deathclaw Grab Skills.esp *DeathGrip Gloves.esp *Dogmeat's Backpack.esp *MWIImike2011.esp *44MBF4.esp *DA44.esp *DominoLynxOutfit.esp *DAWestern44.esp *dD - Small Splatter Size.esp *FTS.esp *Scopes.esp *XM2010_tooun_FTS.esp *FTS_Vanilla.esp *Energy Weapon Replacer - AER15 - Laser Guns.esp *Energy Weapon Replacer - AER15 - Institute Guns.esp *Energy Weapon Replacer - AER15 - Laser Muskets.esp *Bullet Impact Overhaul.esp *CBBE.esp *KSHairdos.esp *MWIIM4_Blueprints.esp BallisticWeaver.esp *MyCart_Biohazard.esp *Adam Kellog Smasher.esp *Ambient Wasteland.esp *AnimChemRedux.esp *AnimatedRadaway.esp *AWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.esp *M2AgencyLvlListPatch.esp *AbsoluteZeros Pelican Case Pack.esp *AccessibleBackpacks.esp FusionCoreRefueler.esp SlowTime.esp *10mmAnimsSTS.esp 10mmAnimsWT.esp *adamsmasher.esp *Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons - Auto Raise from Cover.esp *Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp *zzzzzzenhcancedblood.esp *G3A3_AnimationUpdate.esp *h3minigun.esp *ImmersiveAnimationFramework.esp *IAF - Far Harbor & Nuka World.esp *VVKnifeAnims.esp *VVKnifeAnimsNukaWorld.esp *Live Dismemberment - Brutal.esp *Live Dismemberment - Insane-o.esp *Live Dismemberment - Liebermode.esp *Live Dismemberment - Mental.esp *Live Dismemberment - Mind-Blowing.esp *Live Dismemberment - POSTAL.esp *Live Dismemberment - Regular.esp *3dscopes-replacer-huntingrevolver.esp *3dscopes-replacer-leeenfield.esp *3dscopes-replacer-servicerifle.esp *3dscopes-svt40.esp *Karambit.esp *SaveAcadiaFromBoS.esp *TCSsoundtrack.esp *Synth Overhaul.esp *Synth Overhaul - Black Patch.esp *Synth Overhaul - No level requirements Patch.esp *Synth Overhaul - White Patch.esp *TFC Vest Pack V1.esp *Tactical Flashlights.esp *Tactical Flashlights - Settings.esp *TacticalReloadDLC.esp *TakeCover.esp *FirstPersonDeathMod.esp *TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp *TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp *TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp *TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp *Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment.esp *United Security Contractor.esp *StartMeUp.esp *BostonFPSFixAIO.esp *Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.esp *Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp *PIP-Pad_Pip-BoyFlashlight.esp] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallout4original Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Hello. if you add mods need the new updated version of the game 1.10.980 and go back, using also F4SE at the version of the game 1.10.163 and maybe also you don't delete the new creation club mods includes the version 1.10.980 Some of those steps, maybe make your game to crash or you add so many mods, and that is why Fallout 4 crash. if you have time, try to read the description of mods page, you add. Many mod authors just don't care to add a previous version of a mod for 1.10.163 F4SE at version 1.10.980 don't work with a game at version 1.10.163 i think. i hope you copy the Fallout 4 directory before add new mods. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisomii Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 i'm just kinda confused since i see some ppl using vortex and achieving a 300 - 600 mod list and the game runs. i've updated and downgraded more times than i can count, and it just will not run the game without crashing within the first 5 seconds of launching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UUFrost Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 You're going to want to use process of elimination to see what the problem is. Try running the game with NO mods. See if it launches and works. If it doesn't, you downgraded something incorrectly. If it works fine, then add back 100 mods and see if it still works, and then add another 100, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worm82075 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 On 5/11/2024 at 1:26 PM, Fallout4original said: if you have time, try to read the description of mods page, you add. This isn't optional. We have painstakingly developed a standard over the course of 20 years that includes everything one might need to know to install, use and troubleshoot mods. This can be found on 99% the mod pages on this site. If you don't have the time to read that information before coming here then you are wasting OUR time reiterating information that was elaborately documented already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallout4original Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Sorry, Worm83075 to be alive. You only have this right. This behavior of yours, is very popular at social media, but not here, and soon you going to get banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzfrezi Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Fallout4original said: Sorry, Worm83075 to be alive. You only have this right. This behavior of yours, is very popular at social media, but not here, and soon you going to get banned Lolololololololololololz. Wormy was just agreeing with you about read the mod descriptions and you say their attitude is bad. Wow. Just woooow. Especially as you joined a few days ago and they have been here since 2006. Someone give this guy a comedy award... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worm82075 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 3 hours ago, Fallout4original said: Sorry, Worm83075 to be alive. You only have this right. This behavior of yours, is very popular at social media, but not here, and soon you going to get banned No no, I'M sorry. You are new here and English obviously isn't your first language. I'm a Gen-X American and sometimes I forget that the default position in the world now is to take great offense at the slightest correction. I made the mistake of springboarding off of your comment to drive home the universally accepted concept in this community that if you don't read the description, you're gonna have a bad time. Now please disregard Jazz's perfectly justifiable ridicule and take to heart that there is no malice here. We simply want to educate the newcomers with best practices so they don't get aggravated and leave. This is a moderately technical hobby and requires more patience than most people can muster. You seem excited and enthusiastic in your posts and we need that. So please stick around and learn all you can and help others as you are trying to do but don't take offense when a veteran corrects you. I get corrected all the time because believe it or not I'm trying to help people too and i'm not always right, in fact i'm practically a rookie compared to some of the awesome people here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraquar Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) Before posting a mod list (which is useless without other details) - give the details of the crash. I mean the error message, the error log, whatever details you got. People who have been modding this game a while - there is a pretty good chance they may have seen that exact error message before. Just remember 2 things: 1) You need to have a lot of skills in your locker to manage a mod list that big - modding is more than just download, install and play. 2) When you start throwing hundreds of mods into the equation - you are just increasing the size of the haystack people are trying to find that needle in. If you can eliminate some of that haystack - it might make all the difference between finding the problem and getting blank stares. Edited May 14 by fraquar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzfrezi Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 hours ago, worm82075 said: No no, I'M sorry. You are new here and English obviously isn't your first language. I'm a Gen-X American and sometimes I forget that the default position in the world now is to take great offense at the slightest correction. I made the mistake of springboarding off of your comment to drive home the universally accepted concept in this community that if you don't read the description, you're gonna have a bad time. Now please disregard Jazz's perfectly justifiable ridicule and take to heart that there is no malice here. We simply want to educate the newcomers with best practices so they don't get aggravated and leave. This is a moderately technical hobby and requires more patience than most people can muster. You seem excited and enthusiastic in your posts and we need that. So please stick around and learn all you can and help others as you are trying to do but don't take offense when a veteran corrects you. I get corrected all the time because believe it or not I'm trying to help people too and i'm not always right, in fact i'm practically a rookie compared to some of the awesome people here. Us GenX got to stick together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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