punkpaul12 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 So, some Thalmor soldiers spawn with weapons but no armor in their inventory. It never happens to the Thalmor that randomly spawn as patrols in the world, and it doesn't happen to named Thalmor npcs. I've only seen this happen to the Thalmor that spawn in the Ratway, the soldiers at the embassy (not the wizards though), and the ones at Northwatch. It's only Thalmor NPCs that seem to have this issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I don't have a lot of experience with modding Skyrim, and I'm using Mo2. Are there any glaring issues with my load order? Everything else has been smooth so far, no crashes or missing textures or any other issues I can think of. Could the "remove empty sublists" button in wyre bash help? I do not want to see naked elves. This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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punkpaul12 Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 (edited) Nevermind, still need help Edited July 26 by punkpaul12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorrp10 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Just FYI, stating a problem and just posting a massive list of mods is not likely to result in you getting much help. Not sure how you arrived to it being WAACCF, but it is a faily broad scope mod that fixes a lot of stuff, and I would definitely recommend keeping it on, and just finding out what exactly causes the issue with these specific NPCs. My recommendation would be to get More Informative console, and when encountering a problem Thalmor, open console, click in the affected NPC and check their info. Namely, Base ID, Ref ID, and the .esp that last modifies it. Use showinventory to check what that NPC has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkpaul12 Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 17 minutes ago, scorrp10 said: Just FYI, stating a problem and just posting a massive list of mods is not likely to result in you getting much help. Not sure how you arrived to it being WAACCF, but it is a faily broad scope mod that fixes a lot of stuff, and I would definitely recommend keeping it on, and just finding out what exactly causes the issue with these specific NPCs. My recommendation would be to get More Informative console, and when encountering a problem Thalmor, open console, click in the affected NPC and check their info. Namely, Base ID, Ref ID, and the .esp that last modifies it. Use showinventory to check what that NPC has. Thank you, I assumed it was WAACCF because someone on Reddit said they had a similar problem. I assumed removing the mod was a fix because the first time I checked the embassy all the soldiers were clothed, but after checking again there's a few armorless ones. I must admit I'm completely clueless as to what I'm doing. How would I go about diagnosing this issue? I've installed informative console. The naked npcs only spawn with their weapons. I checked with the console and it says that their ref was last changed by update.esm and their base was last changed by skyrim.esm. The ones with their armour have refs last updated by Morrowloot ultimate. I guess Morrowloot just isn't affecting the nudists for some reason? I greatly appreciate your help and am sorry for being so clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorrp10 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Well, it looks like Morrowloot might be making some changes to Thalmor loadouts, and has somehow missed the ones you mentioned. I would check the BaseID of the Thalmor that end up naked, load up SSEEdit, locate that base ID among NPC (Actor) section under Skyrim.esm, specifically look for what their Outfit value is. And then locate that Outfit form, and see if something changes it- or potentially changes the armors that outfit contains... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkpaul12 Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, scorrp10 said: Well, it looks like Morrowloot might be making some changes to Thalmor loadouts, and has somehow missed the ones you mentioned. I would check the BaseID of the Thalmor that end up naked, load up SSEEdit, locate that base ID among NPC (Actor) section under Skyrim.esm, specifically look for what their Outfit value is. And then locate that Outfit form, and see if something changes it- or potentially changes the armors that outfit contains... I can't see any issues or conflicts, and I've found that using the placeatme command with the baseid of naked Thalmor will spawn them with armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronOfMpls Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) @punkpaul12 Partly copying my response from your other thread... I see others have discussed this already but, you could have more than one mod touching the Thalmors' inventory (including their leveled lists). Have you rebuilt your Bashed Patch since installing, updating, or removing mods? Also, if you've added, updated, or removed such mods since starting your current save, the Thalmor already in your save might not have got the changes correctly. I don't know a permanent fix (other than starting a new save). But an immediate fix when an NPC shows up naked like that: select them in the console, and try ResetInventory. If that doesn't do it alone, try RecycleActor on them after.* (Though maybe use OpenActorContainer 1 to view their inventory first. If they're carrying a quest item or other unique item, probably don't reset/recycle them until after you've grabbed it.) * I had the same problem sometimes with city guards on some of my older Oldrim characters. ResetInventory and RecycleActor on each naked guard would fix them. Edited July 27 by AaronOfMpls footnote changed to a smaller font; ()'s warning; small revisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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