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I tried to point out how the player, if a Khajiit or an Argonian, is still allowed to buy homes in the cities--and this is still the case well before you are announced Dragonborn, especially if you took the Alternate Perspective or ASLAL routes. This needs fixing.

Mind you, the Hearthfire homes, mod-added homes (Including Goldenhills Plantation for CC Farming) and Severin Manor in Raven Rock should still be available. The Hearthfire homes are plots outside of the cities (and could use an option for Caravans to camp at their locations, but I digress), Severin Manor is given on being earned by Councillor Morvayn who could seriously care less about Nord prejudices, and Goldenhills is Ghostbusted by you.

All that said, I can't maintain immersion as some exception to the usual attitudes of city Nords until and unless my character's earned it.

(The title should tell you what kind of trolling I faced the last time I pointed out this disparity...)

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"All that said, I can't maintain immersion as some exception to the usual attitudes of city Nords until and unless my character's earned it."

But your character has earned it - by showing up with needed amount of gold.   Buying a property, you are dealing with a city official who is likely getting a commission and can easily set aside their prejudice- if they have one - for the sake of their purse.   Also, a seller may deny a sale to someone if there are more 'appropriate' buyers lined up.   But as we know, real estate market in Skyrim is rather stale.    Honeyside, Proudspire Manor, etc likely sat (and will sit) on the market for years until player shows up.   By that time, they are likely willing to sell the house to a hagraven, as long as she has the sum needed.

Heck, if you get murdered/run out of town by your new neighbors, the authority can re-possess the property as abandoned and get to sell it again.

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O.K.  So, the Jarl of Whiterun finds that he can't grant the Khajiit, Orc, Argonian, or other race a house in the City of Whiterun, so as not to offend Nord sensibilities (however, he can make an exception for Bretins, and human Imperials from Cyrodiil, and even Redguards.  There are a few Redguards living in Whiterun).  However, the Khajiit is Dragonborn and he helped save Whiterun from a dragon attack.  The Jarl feels compelled to do something.

So, what if he sells him the wrecked property across from the Western Tower?  You have to pay to have the house rebuilt, before you can get decorations.  And, as you can see from the wreckage of that burnt home.  It's a small house, kind of like Lund's Hut, and the surrounding plot of land is in need of a lot of work to get it to a point where a small garden can be planted...

If you're going with this theme of non-human characters are treated like the non-human NPCs, then the character could never join the Stormcloaks.  Ulfric would never recruit the Khajiit and give him titles...

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Orcs he can get away with; They may be trusted only a little further than Dunmer but that will still squeak them by. Also, not all orcs stay in the strongholds. Bretons are the natives of the Reach and the ones that didn't turn Forsworn are looked at askance but tolerated.

Ulfric... is more complex than he lets on... and more self-interested. He'll swallow his pride and give dues to the Dragonborn lest he go the way Torygg did. The Tundra Farmhouse is claimed by the Environs mod series, but CC users could and likely would get that farm across the road from Chillfurrow and the Battle-Born farm, so that's not an issue.

What I really want is a questline for non-human Dragonborn to advocate for fairer treatment of other races, like the mod to combat the mistreatment of Dunmer in Windhelm.

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