AlShaitan Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 I've just finished a very, very brutal quarter at work and I decided to take a week off to recover my last few braincells. In addition to some walks, quality time with the GF and reading I had one very, very simple dream for this break. I was going to install Skyrim (whichever edition had the most mods, Special Edition with mandatory AE patch it seems) and make sure the world was populated by women with laughably large breasts and scanty clothing. I was then going to add a bunch of quests, NPC's and some game mechanic tweaks, and go forth and bash skulls while surrounded by large boobies. But oh boy, was I wrong. Install it yourself? Dependencies upon dependencies. Wabbajack? 3.000 mods you have to download manually because you don't have nexus plus and oh btw, you will need to read aproximately 200 readmes, get some mods outside of wabbajack (Patreon and creator club) and tweak a million settings yourself. Nexus? Literally the same as Wabbajack. Well just pay for premium then! It's worth it! And I agree 100% It would be SO WORTH it if the mod packs were actually automatically installed and functional. But they aren't. And paying that small price, only to have it still not work just seems laughable. Google up help on the issues or check comment sections? "Oh my god, you're so stupid! IT'S SIMPLE read the readme! Stop asking me stupid questions, just follow the 15 steps in the attached documentation dumbass!" <--for LITERALLY 100+ depencies or so just to get large breasts and scanty outfits. I get it. If modding is your hobby, if you LOVE getting in deep with technical documentation, it's probably quite simple to spend ten hours having fun tweaking and fiddling with things. But I am just a very, very tired middle aged man in a non-technical job with learning disabilities who'd rather die in a literal fire than spend ten hours going through documentation and tweaking settings. The concept of modpacks is brilliant. But the fact that I can't pay for Nexus premium, click one button and have it downloaded, setup and working completely ruins it. "Well lower your expectations than, these mods are complicated!" I would, but that would require spending ten hours going through documentation to find a mod combo that ISN'T complicated because god knows, none of the supposedly simple packs seem to meet those criteria. In short, I surrender, I give up. After years and years of adding mods from the workshop in steam, the move to SSE and places like Nexus has killed Skyrim modding for Average Joe dumbass like myself and Skyrim thus has finally died for me and many others, may that zombie of a game finally rest in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Any collection should come with instructions for the install. And if you ARE installing a collection, it should include all of the required mods as well. Lots of non-techy folks manage it every day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7531Leonidas Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Suggestion - use the 'Popular (All Time)' tab on the Nexus, and focus on the body mods, skeleton mods, clothing mods, USSEP, and maybe a visual upgrade like the Bijin stuff. Stay away from (for now) the physics, ENB/lighting stuff, and SKSE-based mods. Arkadiets27 is an author of many full-figured NPC/follower mods, and there are many others. The modding is tough, because you are looking at a game (SE version) that has at least 3-4 different commonly used versions that each affect which mods (SKSE stuff) you can use, and each is a different collection of revisions upon patches of previous game engines, adapted to run with Win 95, 98, 7, 8.1, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlShaitan Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 22 minutes ago, 7531Leonidas said: Suggestion - use the 'Popular (All Time)' tab on the Nexus, and focus on the body mods, skeleton mods, clothing mods, USSEP, and maybe a visual upgrade like the Bijin stuff. Stay away from (for now) the physics, ENB/lighting stuff, and SKSE-based mods. Arkadiets27 is an author of many full-figured NPC/follower mods, and there are many others. The modding is tough, because you are looking at a game (SE version) that has at least 3-4 different commonly used versions that each affect which mods (SKSE stuff) you can use, and each is a different collection of revisions upon patches of previous game engines, adapted to run with Win 95, 98, 7, 8.1, etc. So, spend hours going through which mods are/are not complex by manually checking dependencies, reading documentation...you're not wrong, but that's also why it's dead for anyone remotely casual about it. Things die, it's okay. I'm just here to state that I surrender, it's dead. There is no simple way. There is no "simple" collection, certainly none that creates my vision of Skyrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlShaitan Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 28 minutes ago, HeyYou said: Any collection should come with instructions for the install. And if you ARE installing a collection, it should include all of the required mods as well. Lots of non-techy folks manage it every day. 14.000+ posts on the modding forum and your statement is "Git gud" in effect. This is pretty much spot on how the modding community here on Nexus mods treats people and why it's pointless for me and people like me to bother with trying to mod Skyrim anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickysaurus Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 You may want to start with simpler mod lists that only include mods from our site. The complexity comes with you trying to mix in mods from unverified sources (e.g. Paywalled stuff and questionable external sites). If you would like to automate the downloads you can get Premium but otherwise you can go through them one mod at a time. At least for collections the other stuff is done for you (conflict resolution, load order, tweaks to mods, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadedbro12 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 I can drop a list of some of the mods I use, as well as their dependancies (nexus mods only). It would take some time to setup, but not as much as going through a deep dive into the site to find everything your looking for. Mostly alot of texture mods, yuriana's wench mod (heavily exaggerated tits), and some weapon/house mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlShaitan Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 17 minutes ago, Pickysaurus said: You may want to start with simpler mod lists that only include mods from our site. The complexity comes with you trying to mix in mods from unverified sources (e.g. Paywalled stuff and questionable external sites). If you would like to automate the downloads you can get Premium but otherwise you can go through them one mod at a time. At least for collections the other stuff is done for you (conflict resolution, load order, tweaks to mods, etc). Collections would work great. IF there were some stringet requirments/categories. Such as for example..."one-click-install" where you did indeed, only need the mods from this site. Mods from this site without needing to config. Or if simple config options could be built into the mod manager. The supporter fee would be an absolute PITTANCE to pay to automate that and I would do it in a second. Hell the only thing stopping me from paying just to support the site, is the bitter fact that the very service that's meant to be automated from it, wouldn't work. Mod collections in my opinion, are broken for Skyrim due to the complete absence of requirments or categories with requirments that make them, actually be collections. And not just a glorified link list of mods you need to manually install. It's a fantastic idea, which probably works great for some games but as it stands completely fails for Skyrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlShaitan Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 6 minutes ago, Shadedbro12 said: I can drop a list of some of the mods I use, as well as their dependancies (nexus mods only). It would take some time to setup, but not as much as going through a deep dive into the site to find everything your looking for. Mostly alot of texture mods, yuriana's wench mod (heavily exaggerated tits), and some weapon/house mods. I'd love that, but I honestly strongly suspect I'll encounter the same issues without the brain-bandwidth to sit down and get tweaking (seeing as how I have no experience at all, tweaking around with Skyrim mods unlike many of the people posting on here who seem to forget it's pretty tricky when you weren't gradually introduced and had a talent/enjoyment of it to begin with). In either case, appreciate the productive response. There's a really toxic culture among a lot of the mod communities in the Skyrim category when it comes towards people who just want to slap on some mods and go, unfortunately. While I can see where that attitude comes from, it is completely devoid of empathy for where the "newbs" come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadedbro12 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 first item on the table is the vortex mod manager, and the following "fix bethesda's s#*!" mods Their not brainkilling at all to sit down and install, at best it takes around 10-30 depending on your wifi download speeds to get the initial setup. If your looking QoL mods, I have 200. Textures, 300. Boobs, 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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