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There is an update on Nexus for Base Object Swapper.  They have three versions:

SSE v1.6.1130+ ("Anniversary Edition")

SSE v1.6.640 ("Anniversary Edition")

SSE v1.5.97 ("Special Edition") (Preset)

I have Skyrim Special Edition v1.6.1170.0

So, I should get the one that says ("Special Edition"), but it says for v1.5..97

So, I should get the one that says v1.6.1130+, but it says ("Anniversary Edition")

Which one should I update to?

I've been just updating (in the past to the one that says ("Special Edition") but then I realized it says v1.5.97.  Now, I don't know if I've been getting the wrong update, because now I see that the ("Anniversary Edition") is v1.6.1130+

But it's the Anniversary Edition, not the Special Edition, but it's v1.5.97, not v1.6.1130+....  Urrrg!

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Get the one for SSE v1.6.1130+. "Anniversary Edition" is in quotes because its not actually affected by whether you own the CC content or not, and people just refer to newer game versions that way

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Yes, it is confusing because 'Special' and 'Anniversary' have different meanings on Steam and in modding community.

Steam:

Special Edition is the current Skyrim, offered at version 1.6.1170, and containing base game + three main DLC, an four large creation club mods (Fishing, Survival, Curios/Relics, Saints/Seducers).    Special Edition replaced outdated 'Legendary Edition' in October 2016, bringing a 64-bit engine and improved textures.   In November 2019, it was updated to version 1.5.97 and remained as such for 2 years.

In November 2021, Special Edition was updated to version 1.6 (which broke a lot of mods created for the 1.5.97), four above mentioned CC mods were added as its integral part.   Since then, there has been several more updates.
At this time, Bethesda also released an 'Anniversary Pack' on Steam, containing 70-something CC mods.   "Anniversary Edition", also made available at that time, is just a bundle deal available on Steam, which contains both Skyrim Special Edition and Anniversary Pack.

Modding Community:

As I mentioned, version 1.5.97 was the latest for 2 years.   All mods were for it, and everything was stable.     The 1.6 update broke a lot of things, and a lot of people stayed on, or downgraded back to 1.5.97 and disabled further updates.   SKSE64 and pretty much all mods containing an SKSE .dll plugin, had to be rewritten for 1.6.   It took some time, and some, whose authors left Skyrim, were never rewritten, and  are still only available for 1.5.97.    

So, even though 1.5.97, 1.6, and all subsequent updates up to 1.6.1170, are all versions of "Special Edition"(SE), in the modding community that term came to be associated exclusively with 1.5.97.    And anything 1.6+ is called Anniversary Edition (AE).   

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So, then...  I should get the 1.6.1130+ "Anniversary" edition, for my game version?  Or should I get the 1.5.97 "Special Edition" for mod compatibility?

Or does that mean, that I should be using "Anniversary Edition" mods and not "Special Edition mods?"  Am I in the wrong forums?  I should be in the Anniversary Edition Forums? (Dizzy, confused emoji)

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First off, we are only talking about very specific mods here - mods that include a .dll SKSE plugin.   If you go into the files section of the mod and do 'preview file contents', and there is a .dll file there, then you need to worry about game version.    All other mods will happily work on ANY version of the game (though a lot of them do require certain SKSE plugins)

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For 1.6.1170, you definitely always get the latest   (1.6.1130+ 'AE')   I would not advise downgrading since pretty much all relevant mods have by now been updated for the latest version - or new ones have been written to replace the abandoned ones.    But I would recommend disabling updates for Skyrim in Steam, and always launching your game through your mod manager.  (Or via SKSE executable).  

There is literally no such game as 'Skyrim Anniversary Edition'.    On Steam, Anniversary Edition is a bundle that's Special Edition + Anniversary Pack.   Here, 'Anniversary Edition' is just a term used to describe Special Edition versions 1.6.+   So yes, you are in the right forums.

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4 hours ago, scorrp10 said:

First off, we are only talking about very specific mods here - mods that include a .dll SKSE plugin.

Though this is less of a problem than it used to be.  Many SKSE .dll mods use Address Library to stay version-agnostic, so they'll keep working as long as you keep Address Library up-to-date.

Edited by AaronOfMpls
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