Do we think a AMD 7800X3d will be good enough to not bottleneck a RTX 5080?

[363rdChemicalCompany]

Toying with the idea of picking up a RTX 5080 when it comes out.

I currently have a 4080 Super that I am actually satisfied with, but if I put a RTX 5080 in here then I get to cascade the 4080 Super to a friend.

So assuming the price of the RTX 5080 will not be too crazy, do we think my existing AMD 7800X3D be still enough chip to not bottleneck a RTX 5080?

I welcome discussion/speculation.

 

respectfully,

[HeyYou]

I would expect it depends on the game, and which piece of hardware it is more inclined to use. I am sure the 5080 will outperform your current card, but, by enough to justify the cost?? Probably not. I wouldn't expect to be able to lay hands on a 5080 for less than 1500 bucks..... and for the incremental performance boost..... I would not be able to rationalize that purchase.....

Have performance monitor running while you play whatever game, and see what the usage graphs for the proc, and vid card look like. If your card is maxing out, and the proc is just lazing along, you'll do fine.... If, however, the proc is maxing out, and the vid card is just lazing along.... The 5080 likely won't show much, if any, performance improvement.

[363rdChemicalCompany]

51 minutes ago, HeyYou said:

I would expect it depends on the game, and which piece of hardware it is more inclined to use. I am sure the 5080 will outperform your current card, but, by enough to justify the cost?? Probably not. I wouldn't expect to be able to lay hands on a 5080 for less than 1500 bucks..... and for the incremental performance boost..... I would not be able to rationalize that purchase.....

Have performance monitor running while you play whatever game, and see what the usage graphs for the proc, and vid card look like. If your card is maxing out, and the proc is just lazing along, you'll do fine.... If, however, the proc is maxing out, and the vid card is just lazing along.... The 5080 likely won't show much, if any, performance improvement.

Sir,

It would be Fallout 4 again.

With Luxor's 4 HD overhaul, most settings on Ultra.

The 4080Super/AMD 7800X3D/64GB DDR 5 RAM/ Samsung 990 Pro SSD combination is doing fine with that.

But when I go into GeForce control panel the NVIDA recommended settings are not maxed out for Quality yet. The slider is about 80% of the way between performance and quality.

So despite my hardware it seems the NVIDIA software believes with my current rig, I still ought to leave some visual quality on the table, in the interest of performance.

(BTW am still in Germany so getting stuff here is a bit harder)

Is there a better SSD you cn nrecommend?

I have been told beofre that going up to 128 GB RAM will not do me any good as it may slow the RAM down?

Any truth to that? Or is there a particualr ramstick you can recommend? I have 4 slots but I been told  its best to only use a pair of slots.

 

I hear in spring the AMD 9950 X3D will be out combing the 9800X3D gaming perfomance with the a lot of multithreading ability? COuld that be the perfect partner for  a RTX 5080?

Or are these upgrades crazy over-the-top for Fallout 4, no matter how much modded? (am at 330 mods enabled same time, to include Luxors 4 textures)

[HeyYou]

If your SSD is of the NVME flavor, I do believe that is as good as it's gonna get, without spending some truly huge money. If your Mainboard supports PCIe v4, you are stylin'.

NVidia recommendations are just that. They don't necessarily subscribe to the same goals that you do......

I believe there is no such thing as too much RAM. But, it needs to be MATCHED sticks. If they are all rated at the same speed, etc, then they should play nice together. That said, If you are running 32gb currently, (or more) I doubt you would see any noticeable performance improvement by going with more. Win 11 will (and 10 as well) will "run" (for certain values thereof....) with 4gb. Going to 8gb will be a VERY noticeable improvement, going to 16 will be an improvement, but, not as much as the jump from 4 to 8. Going to 32 you won't see much of a 'performance' improvement, but, things will run smoother. Going up from 32? I don't know that you would even be able to tell..... Maybe reduced loading times, (as more stuff is kept in RAM) but, with NVME SSD's, that's really a non-issue.

I have no doubt the 9950x3d, and the 5080 would be VERY likely to give you better performance, or, allow you to run some truly bizarre resolutions, and still get decent framerates.... But, do you really NEED it? The cost/benefit just ain't there for me. But, keep in mind, I am still running on an i7 9700KF, (no onboard video, but, no hyperthreading either.... still, 8 cores....) 32gb ram, RTX 3070, a couple samsung 980 PRO NVME drives. (one for the O/S, one for the games.) I don't run at max settings, and I don't use heavy duty texture packs either, but, the games still look REALLY good, and run very smooth. It IS getting on toward time for an upgrade, but, this system runs Starfield rather well..... So, maybe when the next Elder Scrolls, or Fallout game comes out, I'll do an upgrade..... or, if this system dies..... but, until them? I'm good.

[363rdChemicalCompany]

So how about the other way around?

What if I get a  9950X3D and keep my RTX 4080Super?

Will the card bottleneck?

[HeyYou]

4080 is a friggin' powerful card. I would still do the test, and see what CPU and Vid Card usage looks like while playing. If you aren't maxing out either one, you likely won't see much of a change in performance......

[363rdChemicalCompany]

33 minutes ago, HeyYou said:

4080 is a friggin' powerful card. I would still do the test, and see what CPU and Vid Card usage looks like while playing. If you aren't maxing out either one, you likely won't see much of a change in performance......

I know I know...I should be satisfied, especially since I am on Fallout 4 

[HeyYou]

8 minutes ago, 363rdChemicalCompany said:

I know I know...I should be satisfied, especially since I am on Fallout 4 

Why?

Folks are always looking for something better/faster/more. I don't see why gamers should be any different. I know I'm not.