Having Scripting Problems with Big Town, after completing Vanilla Quest

[shamouti1]

Hello, 

This is my first time posting on here after almost 12 years of gaming on Fallout 3. Despite all it’s bugs, CTDs and other problems, once it’s stable and running, I think it’s a great game. I guess that’s a main reason I keep returning to the Capitol Wasteland.

Well, I finished the “Big Trouble in Big Town” Vanilla Quest, brought back Red and Shorty from Georgetown PD, Sticky from Little Lamplight successfully, and even installed the Bittercup Companion mod. After the Quest reached Script 200 (Completed all objectives) and finished the quest, Red gives me the option to either show the Big Town residents how to Mine, how to Shoot, Sneak or use the Robots in the junkyard. Ironically, if I used the “Big Town Overhaul” mod, the residents and other NPC’s get stuck in the walls of the mod. Even if I use companion mods, they end up opening up gates where the medical supplies are, and run all the way around the Big Town mod, just to get back near my character in the middle of town. I really don’t understand that.

I tried loading a completed save with the end of the Big Town quest multiple times using different options:

A. Mines. Residents keep blowing themselves up once they lay mines on the bridge, behind the bridge and in front.

B. Small Guns. Residents can’t find the area to shoot in the “Big Town Overhaul” Mod. 

C. Robots. Can’t find robots, of course.

D. Sneak. Red walks back to the Georgetown PD and into the jail cell from Big Town, then slowly walks back to Big Town from the Georgetown PD.

What makes it worse, somehow with my Bittercup companion mod, she acts as if I had abandoned the town and everyone’s dead (“Jerk! I’m glad we broke up.”). I am not happy with that.

To top it off, the mutants do not show up at all. I’ve tried to use “Set Essential” on all the Big Town residents, but it seems scripted for everyone in Big Town to die, as if the player has abandoned Big Town. 

I am not as GECK literate as many of you modders for FO3. I wish I was, but honestly it doesn’t make any sense how to use it.

What I want to do is simple. I want all the Big Town Residents to learn how to use guns, sneak, and defend themselves, not die, not get erased from the base game, Red to offer services and healing for free and for Bittercup to like me again. What do I need to do, please?

I am at a complete loss as how to save Big Town from imminent threats when my player character is not present, and feel I somehow screwed up my saved game. If there is any way I can correct these scripting errors and/or bugs either using the GECK or some other method besides Console Commands, I am willing to try. I’m just quite frustrated at the moment and is the reason I posted.

I sincerely hope some of you understand this and can help. I’ve been playing Fallout 3 for a long time and I don’t want those damn kids to die.

Thank You for reading.

[Drarack]

The problem is Big Town Overhaul mod.

The posts on the page mention some of your issues like ctds, npcs stuck in geometry, navmesh issues, scripts not compiled. 

Vanilla script overwrites likely cause errors a - d and mutants not appearing. This probably ruined your save too.

Uninstall that mod and use an older save to fix problem 

 

[AndalayBay]

I'm not using any mods at all and they are fine. I think I taught them to use robots.

[shamouti1]

I decided to open an earlier save on my game and deleted the Big Town Overhaul Mod. I honestly did not want the mod to continuously cause me grief. Thank you for your advice and help.