Why have the censorship?

[phildog]

It seems completely ridiculous censor swear words on a site host to mods like Animated Prostitution & Killable Children, not to mention the fact that Fallout 3 itself has swearing in it. Places like deviantArt and youtube get along fine without it, so I see no reason for it here.

 

It's ridiculous, I can't see any reason why there needs to be an auto-censor as this site clearly isn't intended for children. This site is intended of adults and older teens, and I can say with great certainty that both groups can handle a few curse words. There's no reason a handful of words need to be prohibited, and the only words I can think of are either juvenile or draconian. So why have the censorship? Why not just get rid of it or ad an optional system like youtube has?

 

I think you should give this some real thought. Thanks for your time.

 

EDIT: PS, your forum rules don't say much about what words & images you will and won't allow here, you should probably do something about that.

[Herculine]

It seems completely ridiculous censor swear words on a site host to mods like Animated Prostitution & Killable Children, not to mention the fact that Fallout 3 itself has swearing in it. Places like deviantArt and youtube get along fine without it, so I see no reason for it here.

 

It's ridiculous, I can't see any reason why there needs to be an auto-censor as this site clearly isn't intended for children. This site is intended of adults and older teens, and I can say with great certainty that both groups can handle a few curse words. There's no reason a handful of words need to be prohibited, and the only words I can think of are either juvenile or draconian. So why have the censorship? Why not just get rid of it or ad an optional system like youtube has?

 

I think you should give this some real thought. Thanks for your time.

 

EDIT: PS, your forum rules don't say much about what words you will and won't allow here, you should probably do something about that.

 

Most mods that contain adult content on the Nexus are tagged as such so you know what you're getting into before you even try to view the file. Unless there's a way to tag a forum thread in a similar way, then the censorship rules are necessary to protect people who are underage or simply don't want to read a lot of profanity and pornography. This is especially important since the Forums also allow us to upload images. Without some sort of restrictions on that, this would sooner or later become a porn site.

[buddah]

Because this family of sites is not just for Fallout3, the site itself is over 8 years old. It goes back to the early days after the release of morrowind, then oblivion and now we have added fallout3. Morrowind was not rated mature so the sites caters to that as well. Rather than have three different sets of rules for the sites, we have one....less confusion that way.

 

The file sites, i.e. Tesnexus and Fallout3nexus, have adult filters for the file and image pages to keep those who choose not to view or should not view materials that are not suitable for work (adult content). These filters do not however carryover to the forums, therefore comments in file threads are controlled by the profanity filters in the forum software as these are viewable by the entire community and not just those of a specific site....in this instance the forum software will overwrite profanity to make it viewable and inoffensive to those members who really don't want to have profanity on their monitor.

 

Other than that, look at it this way. If you are not mature enough to express yourself without the use of profanity and bad language than we will do it for you. We don't censor content of mods or images, and only a few have been removed because of their content and will not be discussed on this family of sites. (Those that have been deleted were for possible legal reasons due to the subject matter of their content, these are done by a consensus decision of the entire staff, and reviewed by Dark0ne....copyrighted materials are deleted out of hand with little or no discussion by the file administrators).

 

Read the terms of service, there is a link in the upper left. Also read the sites policy on censorship it is available here:

 

http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showtopic=81481

 

Don't agree with the terms, then go elsewhere...no one is holding your in chains here. There is nothing to discuss here as the bad word filter in the forums/sites were set up originally by Dark0ne, so as it is his site it will be by his rules.

 

EDIT: If you would not use it in your resume, or in front of your mother it has no place here. If you have no common sense then the filter will give you some.

 

Buddah

 

Regardless of the junk they put in their profiles most of the users of this site are under 18.....most never post they just download files, but they will be protected to the best of our abilities and intentions.

[phildog]

the forum software will overwrite profanity to make it viewable and inoffensive to those members who really don't want to have profanity on their monitor.

From the linked censorship policy, I quote:

"

If we were to remove a file because any individual or group of individuals find something offensive, the site would eventually have no files available for download, as someone will always take offense to whatever is offered.

"

Can't you make that exact same argument for swear words here? More importantly, if you're willing to ban content some people find offensive, why don't you ban something even more people find offensive, male homosexuality?

 

I'd be willing to bet dollars to dimes that more people on this "family of sites" are offended by male homosexuality being included in their mods than swear words being used on these forums. So if the argument can be swear words can be barred from implementation forums due to a number of people who dislike it, then one must also accept that male homosexuality should be banned because of popular disdain for that or anything else commonly disliked.

 

Other than that, look at it this way. If you are not mature enough to express yourself without the use of profanity and bad language than we will do it for you. We don't censor content of mods or images, and only a few have been removed because of their content and will not be discussed on this family of sites. (Those that have been deleted were for possible legal reasons due to the subject matter of their content, these are done by a consensus decision of the entire staff, and reviewed by Dark0ne....copyrighted materials are deleted out of hand with little or no discussion by the file administrators).

No offence, but I'd think being offended at the use of a word arguibly much more juvial than using the word per se.

 

Besides, using that logic you could ban abbreviations, arguing that "more mature" persons should be using the full form. Would it be unnecessary and inconvenient? Yes, but so is arguably banning swear words.

 

Don't agree with the terms, then go elsewhere...no one is holding your in chains here. There is nothing to discuss here as the bad word filter in the forums/sites were set up originally by Dark0ne, so as it is his site it will be by his rules.

I'll take it up with him then.

 

EDIT: If you would not use it in your resume, or in front of your mother it has no place here. If you have no common sense then the filter will give you some.

One would think that, sure, but only if they didn't really think about it. You're thinking only of black and white images, and forgetting the greys.

 

Take for example this image. Clearly it's acceptable to you as you haven't removed it from Herculine's sig, but would you put that on a resume or show it to your mother? I know I wouldn't do either.

 

What about the image in this post? An admin, LHammonds, clearly seen it and hasn't bothered to remove it. I don't think I need to point out that you won't show it to your mother or put it on a resume.

 

What about the image in this man's signature? Clearly that girl is both underage and posed provocatively. Is it stepping over the line, how should I know?

 

...and that's what bothers me, ill defined rules. I'm not trying to be an admin or a vigilante. However, lack of clarity makes it hard to see just where the line is and when it's crossed or even if it's being stepped on it right now.

[Dark0ne]

Seems like you're just trying to argue for argument's sake. What is your actual point here?

 

As a rule of thumb we don't like it when you bring up indiscretions of others in public. If you actually have an issue with any content on the site then you should report it through the proper channels.

 

Profanity filters are in place because it degenerates general conversation. That is my opinion. It doesn't hold that not being offended by male homosexuality means you don't get offended by swear words. The two are mutually exclusive. Fact is if a user feels the need to use swear words on the site then they probably aren't going to be welcome here. It's unncessary. I have no problem using swear words in general conversations with my friends, especially after a few drinks; I'm no prude, but when it comes to writing on forums and commenting on sites it becomes utterly unnecessary.

 

That is my opinion. This site is run on my grounds. That is how it is.

[DrPator]

As a common browser of the internet, I don't believe either that swearing is in any way necessary. Your comments, suggestions and requests will be taken more seriously if you refrain from using swear "punctuations", especially after every two words or so, and so will be your own reputation as a user.

 

As for images unsuitable for underaged users, I do believe some of them need to be censored. Altough Fallout 3 and Oblivion are rated M for Mature, it's most unlikely that the users will all follow that logic. As Buddah said, most users of this website are most likely to be underaged.

[buddah]

I am going to close this now, as in the words of Dark0ne

 

"That is my opinion. This site is run on my grounds. That is how it is."

 

Ergo there is nothing to discuss.

 

Buddah